So, why would I want a mechanical mod.....
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No reason I can come up with. With the advent of high wattage regulated devices Mech's are becoming a thing of the past, IMHO.
Now we will have people saying there is nothing to break or fail and that isn't true.
Now we will have people saying there is nothing to break or fail and that isn't true.
The main advantage of mech. mods is sub-ohming. Personally I have a 30 watt Hana clone and it runs .5 ohms just fine. There are 2 problems with sub-ohming IMHO, A. It is hellacious on batteries, B. juice goes QUICK. Other than that on a regulated mod VAPE HARD.
You can have your own opinion but you can't have your own facts.
It is a fact that most mechanical mods have fewer things to go wrong than most regulated devices. Also if they do go wrong, it is a fact that most of the time it is easier to fix a mechanical mod than a regulated APV.
You may not want a mech at all. What are you using now? If you don't want to go sub-ohm with an RBA or dripper there isn't much reason to get a mech. For my part I got into the mech habit early on, and it's all I use, but it's not for everyone by a long shot.
I've been looking to do the same for out and about. sup' Boro?
Well I work in an aerospace machine shop and I like to appreciate the craftsmanship and ingenuity that goes into making a beautiful mechanical mod 
so I guess for me its looks... Honestly tho you cant beat the vape from a powerful regulated device (hexohm, ipv2, hana etc) because the vape is CONSISTANT from full battery to completely dead, where as a mech mod will not vape the same as the battery loses charge.
so I guess for me its looks... Honestly tho you cant beat the vape from a powerful regulated device (hexohm, ipv2, hana etc) because the vape is CONSISTANT from full battery to completely dead, where as a mech mod will not vape the same as the battery loses charge.
I love mechanical mods and I don't sub ohm. I run 1.4 to 1.6 coils in them. Yes less to go wrong and if I drop it in mud in a crawl space or lose it in an attic I would not cry about it like losing a hundred dollar job. Sits in my tool bag until I want it. Rather beat up a $20 mechanical that a $100. regulated. I find they both vape about the same and same clouds. CHEERS!
You don't need a mech to enjoy vaping or to get the most out of it. So if you don't want one then don't get one.
I think buying a mech for $30 is a pretty good deal though. I haven't tried vv other than an ego or any vw device for one main reason, price.
I think buying a mech for $30 is a pretty good deal though. I haven't tried vv other than an ego or any vw device for one main reason, price.
And I disagree on the reliability of mech vs regulated mods... At least to the severity of a mech mod failure compared to a regulated mod failure. A mech mod can quite literally blow your hand off if it fails (battery vent/combustion) to where a reg mod, the worst that can happen is you fry the board, a button stops working, lcd screen goes blank etc... So safe failure vs dangerous failure in my eyes.
Actually I think some regulated devices don't have reverse battery protection, which could also vent a battery. Just because a regulated device does normally have more safeguards, doesn't mean it can't vent a battery, the possibility is just lower.
Personally I use both and I like both. I love the simplicity of the mech and using calculations to get the vape I want and they are elegant in their simplicity. But I like regulated devices for the consistent vape from start to finish.
I agree a regulated mod can indeed vent a battery. I would think most cases of a regulated mod venting is due to the users error (vaping a .08 ohm coil when the manual states no lower than .2 ohms for example) and of course the RARE case that the board malfunctions/shorts out and the battery drains rapidly. You have to get that battery HOT in order to vent which means stressing the battery, which most reg mods wont let happen, they will shut off or stop the current after so many seconds of continuous discharge. Im not sure putting the battery in reverse would cause it to vent either as most of the cases ive read of people doing so they just fried the board, but maybe there are cases of that idk. Im just saying the margin for error on a mech vs a regulated mod are quite different and its EASY to make a mech mod fail compared to a reg mod.
There's reasons. If you have to ask, you don't want to know though. (or I should say, they may not apply).
Many vape shops will sell you a mech as your first e-cig even.
There's a few "camps". Mech rocks camps. Regulated rocks camps.
Depends on what you want to do with your vaping.
I'd say start off vaping "normal" stuff. Figure it all out.
Then, start doing research on batteries and how they work. And electricity. And Ohm's law. And Watts.
Then if "can run it over with a truck" appeals to you, and keeping up with battery tech appeals to you, some mech mods may be for you.
Note that some are works of art (like wooden boxes with minimal connections and circuitry, or highly crafted tubes). Some are also "bottom feeders" like a REO. So there's other reasons beyond durability and watts.
Mostly though, what you trade in all these designs is a consistent vape if you don't change the battery all the time. Battery voltage starts out at 4.2 volts and goes down from there to whatever "cut off" you think works, or 2.8 volts (ish). The "middle ground" is fairly flat in that curve...a feature of lithium type batteries that makes them appealing.
So you tell us....why would YOU want a mech? Durability? Simplicity? Craftmanship? Bottom Feeder? Watts?
Or do you A) Not want to learn all that safety/electrical stuff right now (best that we say you should at least try to learn it...and get a multimeter) or B) want a consistent vape and/or be able to adjust voltage? Then just stick with "regulated" stuff.
Many vape shops will sell you a mech as your first e-cig even.
There's a few "camps". Mech rocks camps. Regulated rocks camps.
Depends on what you want to do with your vaping.
I'd say start off vaping "normal" stuff. Figure it all out.
Then, start doing research on batteries and how they work. And electricity. And Ohm's law. And Watts.
Then if "can run it over with a truck" appeals to you, and keeping up with battery tech appeals to you, some mech mods may be for you.
Note that some are works of art (like wooden boxes with minimal connections and circuitry, or highly crafted tubes). Some are also "bottom feeders" like a REO. So there's other reasons beyond durability and watts.
Mostly though, what you trade in all these designs is a consistent vape if you don't change the battery all the time. Battery voltage starts out at 4.2 volts and goes down from there to whatever "cut off" you think works, or 2.8 volts (ish). The "middle ground" is fairly flat in that curve...a feature of lithium type batteries that makes them appealing.
So you tell us....why would YOU want a mech? Durability? Simplicity? Craftmanship? Bottom Feeder? Watts?
Or do you A) Not want to learn all that safety/electrical stuff right now (best that we say you should at least try to learn it...and get a multimeter) or B) want a consistent vape and/or be able to adjust voltage? Then just stick with "regulated" stuff.
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The mech mod isn't going to fail. The battery inside the mech mod is what might fail, and that's due to all kinds of other issues. Usually user error.
Edit: That being said, there *are* all sorts of things that can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing. Mech mods are only for people who are willing to do their homework and educate themselves, use the correct battery, build appropriate coils, *check the coils* and play safe.
Edit: That being said, there *are* all sorts of things that can go wrong if you don't know what you're doing. Mech mods are only for people who are willing to do their homework and educate themselves, use the correct battery, build appropriate coils, *check the coils* and play safe.
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LMAO!
So can my acetylene torch, Natural Gas, Propane, R22, 410a and all the other tools and stuff I use everyday.
Im not seeing your point? User/mechanical error sure anything can happen but all it takes is the wrong build/battery/short to make a mech mod into a pipe bomb all of which a newbie can very easily do. I could get hit in the eye by a chunk of carbide from a lathe at work just as easily as you could blow yourself up welding lol. Please explain your post?
Do we have any facts on regulated mod failures? I keep hearing this, that regulated mods can/will fail while mechanical mods won't, and while this may be empirically true, this argument would be more compelling if I could see some actual figures on failure rates.
When I hear this, I think about all of the technology that we take for granted in our lives: cell phones, computers, tv's, cars (most have computer chips in them now), etc. How likely are they to fail? Guess that depends upon the quality of the design and manufacturing, but the everyday electronics that have infiltrated virtually every aspect of our lives tend to have relatively low failure rates, or they don't last long on the market. I work in the information technology field, and the failure rates of the equipment I work with, from personal computers up to enterprise-level network/firewall infrastructure is also relatively low. I also stopped buying extended warranties on personal electronic devices a long time ago, because if they're going to fail they'll usually do so within the first 90 days, and even then failures have been fairly rare - in my personal experience at any rate.
In any case, I own both mechanical and regulated mods - I like the mechanicals for aesthetics mainly, although I can get hellacious vapes on some of them with the right build
, but I tend to use my regulated mods more frequently because I switch between clearos and RBAs frequently and I can easily adjust my wattage based what tank I'm using at the time.Frankly, in the end I think most of this is, and should be, based on personal preference. What works for you? Great, use it in good health!
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The only failures ive heard of is the board being damaged from inserting the battery reversed. And thats only on mods that dont have reverse battery protection... I dont want tk say they cant fail because anything can happen, but its HIGHLY unlikely.
There's a ton of failures on batteries...
In mech mods
In regulated mods
In computers
In cell phones
So? (use safe batteries, of course).
As to other failures...regulated stuff has circuits that fail, buttons that fail, etc. Now, the buttons on these are not generally designed to be user-replaceable. Neither are the circuits.
The mech mod generally has a "pin" or some other config that can be messed with by the user. Some are such that they have proprietary tech and once/if the manufacturer goes out of business, you can't replace an entire button end...let's say. I don't know that there's a "universal design" for that. If someone knows of one please post.
So you can argue that mechs don't necessarily last forever if you mangle the threads or drop the end in the lake () or whatever. But they are closer to that reality than anything.
Regulated mods...run the gambit of costs...from simple $15.00 e-cigs to ...wow...super bling. Many mechs run the gambit too...and have bling...many being more expensive in general as they are often not mass produced in the same way as the regulated ones. Many are hand made, since it's approachable tech for a machine shop guy who doesn't dabble in electronics.
In mech mods
In regulated mods
In computers
In cell phones
So? (use safe batteries, of course).
As to other failures...regulated stuff has circuits that fail, buttons that fail, etc. Now, the buttons on these are not generally designed to be user-replaceable. Neither are the circuits.
The mech mod generally has a "pin" or some other config that can be messed with by the user. Some are such that they have proprietary tech and once/if the manufacturer goes out of business, you can't replace an entire button end...let's say. I don't know that there's a "universal design" for that. If someone knows of one please post.
So you can argue that mechs don't necessarily last forever if you mangle the threads or drop the end in the lake (
) or whatever. But they are closer to that reality than anything.Regulated mods...run the gambit of costs...from simple $15.00 e-cigs to ...wow...super bling. Many mechs run the gambit too...and have bling...many being more expensive in general as they are often not mass produced in the same way as the regulated ones. Many are hand made, since it's approachable tech for a machine shop guy who doesn't dabble in electronics.
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