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Interesting reply from Marius. And I'm not sure if I disagree. There are quite a few unknowns around e-cigs. There's the PG and VG, but also one we don't talk about very often is "flavoring". Sure, you can eat it, but inhale it? Hmmmm.

Has OP considered something more organic like chewing on a carrot, cinnamon stick, toothpick?
 

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Yes 8mg would be enough. So if cartos are refillable, when do I need a new carto?

Hi again Frank


What de Skewer said, plus:

The nic level is largely trial and error for every person. Nicotine is absorbed from this process through the linings in our mouth - same as that Nic-O-Gum - and absorption rates seem to vary a lot. Considering you are a very light smoker 8 mg will probably do.

As someone new to this you will need to learn lot of things about the experience. One of those is vaping isn't smoking. :shock:

First, nicotine doesn't hit you the way a cigarette does. (What I said about Nic-O-Gum...) You don't get those sudden jolts to your system like you do from smoking. That's actually a good thing, but it can be a disappointment for some newbies and they try to vape themselves silly into a nicotine buzz - not good. Since it sounds like you want the vaping experience more than the nicotine buzz this probably won't be an issue for you. Just something to be aware of.

Another "vaping isn't smoking" thing: This stuff can be irritating for some people. Specifically, if they take the vapor deep into their lungs as they did smoking. The better technique for most people is to vape like you are smoking a cigar: Big sucks of vapor into your mouth and to the back of the throat and no more. "Lung inhaling" typically sends new vapers into coughing fits. Two+ years in and I still don't lung inhale. I could now... just don't find it necessary.

About the cartos: When it comes to refilling/filling cartos get back to us. Vaping has technology. Smoking technology is limited to "match" and "burn something". The short version is: There is poylfill in there that holds the liquid. You need to get/keep that evenly saturated. There is a vent tube in the center. You don't want to get liquid in that vent tube or it comes straight out the bottom and creates a mess that can damage an auto battery. Considering your light use... may want to just stick with the pre-filled cartos if you find something you like and avoid the whole carto filling issue altogether.

But you have mates that vape? Right? Most will be more than happy to help you figure it all out. We're always here too.
 
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Hi again Frank


What de Skewer said, plus:

The nic level is largely trial and error for every person. Nicotine is absorbed from this process through the linings in our mouth - same as that Nic-O-Gum - and absorption rates seem to vary a lot. Considering you are a very light smoker 8 mg will probably do.

As someone new to this you will need to learn lot of things about the experience. One of those is vaping isn't smoking. :shock:

First, nicotine doesn't hit you the way a cigarette does. (What I said about Nic-O-Gum...) You don't get those sudden jolts to your system like you do from smoking. That's actually a good thing, but it can be a disappointment for some newbies and they try to vape themselves silly into a nicotine buzz - not good. Since it sounds like you want the vaping experience more than the nicotine buzz this probably won't be an issue for you. Just something to be aware of.

Another "vaping isn't smoking" thing: This stuff can be irritating for some people. Specifically, if they take the vapor deep into their lungs as they did smoking. The better technique for most people is to vape like you are smoking a cigar: Big sucks of vapor into your mouth and to the back of the throat and no more. "Lung inhaling" typically sends new vapers into coughing fits. Two+ years in and I still don't lung inhale. I could now... just don't find it necessary.

About the cartos: When it comes to refilling/filling cartos get back to us. Vaping has technology. Smoking technology is limited to "match" and "burn something". The short version is: There is poylfill in there that holds the liquid. You need to get/keep that evenly saturated. There is a vent tube in the center. You don't want to get liquid in that vent tube or it comes straight out the bottom and creates a mess that can damage an auto battery. Considering your light use... may want to just stick with the pre-filled cartos if you find something you like and avoid the whole carto filling issue altogether.

But you have mates that vape? Right? Most will be more than happy to help you figure it all out. We're always here too.

Thanks a lot! I don't think I understood something though, do I not inhale with my lungs when vaping? Do I just keep it in my mouth like a cigar?

Yeah I figured vaping wouldn't make me light headed like smoking sometimes does. I also like that head rush but what I was looking for is, as you said, the vaping experience: holding a cigarette-shaped thing between my fingers, puffing it every once in a while as I'm outside doing some thinking or just looking around; no smelly odours afterwards, no bad taste in my mouth; smooth vapor instead of rough smoke; and a good flavour!
 

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Thanks a lot! I don't think I understood something though, do I not inhale with my lungs when vaping? Do I just keep it in my mouth like a cigar?

Well, hold it in if you want but what you do at that point is your own business. lol The bigger issue is how do you get vape into your mouth and throat without sending you into a choking fit. You don't need to hold it in the mouth for any particular period or reason. Out your nose, blow vape rings with it (yeah, we do...) - whatever you want! You'll sort it out. There are even many videos on YouTube showing vaping technique. I love the one from the guy who demonstrates lung vaping and can barely contain the mini coughing fit he really wants to just let go with.
 

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Been vaping for a few weeks but smoking for years. I think the "smoke like a cigar" isn't for everyone. I'm inexperienced yes and I think with cigs I didn't breath deep anyway. However I think a long slow drag is best and for me slightly into the throat and bit in lungs I'm on low nic tho and its great. No big punch in your throat and no coughs. No such thing as the right way with this but for me it's sooo good this way no irritation no harsh lungs just smoothness!

I'm a noob but still my advice and experience is still as good as anyone's, as an opinion!
 

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Hi, I only smoke 1 or 2 cigarettes every month when going out, I have never bought a pack in my life but now when at work or even at home I feel that urge to go outside and smoke a cig. To be honest cigarettes are great for when you need to wait for something or just want to kill some time, or even when you need to think about something. They make me less nervous or stressed. Sometimes I like to just stand outside during a hot summer night and I feel uncomfortable not doing anything like smoking a cig. I know it sounds silly but it's like you have no purpose being outside alone just looking around. The problem is I can't smoke normal cigarettes during the day because I hate the taste and I prefer not to because I know they're bad for your health. The smell they leave on you is also a turn off.

Then I've seen friends with eCigs and I was amazed. Not only could I get flavours like Cherry which is what I'm looking for, but the vapor was really smooth and you can just recharge the battery. So I was looking for a brand that offered a starting kit with at least a USB charger, an automatic battery and 5 cherry cartomizers. I'd like them to be 2-piece minis basically, as small as a normal cigarette with just the battery and the cartomizer. If possible, in black or resembling a real cigarette.

My concern is finding a cheap kit (20-50$) that has a solid build and from a trustworthy company. What can you suggest me?

I'm really not looking to smoke more than 2 cigarretes a week, but I understand that having an e-cig might make me smoke more often, do you think it will?

Rickajho beat me to it. Again. :)

I've bought from Cignot myself. Vicki's got some of the best prices you'll find and does fantastic customer service.

Also, Joyetech makes good equipment. I use it myself. Actually had the one Rickajho links to but, unlike yourself, I was a heavy smoker, I need something more. Since you're in the UK, maybe check out Liberty Flights? The "CE4 eGo v2 Single Kit" looks fairly cheap (25 pounds... not sure what the exchange rate is right now). Doesn't "look like" a cig much but it's eGo which means you'll have options on parts (like shop around for prices if the clearo goes whacky on you... like that).

And 510 threaded cartomizers also work on eGo batteries. They have "dual threading".

I'd consider clearomizers (though I think the CE5 and up are better than the CE4, but you can buy those separate for not much, mine run $5 USD and they last). It's just easier to fill and go. Cartomizers on the kits that try to "look like" cigs can be kind of a pain I think. Some folks love 'em. I kinda got tired of the filling process. Then again, I ain't a patient man. :)

Several UK/EU vendors listed over in the Forum Supplier section. You could browse around, see what looks good. Come back, ask more questions. We love to talk vaping here. :)

I understand that having an e-cig might make me smoke more often, do you think it will?

I think nicotine is addictive as it is. And that's that. There are "social smokers" who just seem to have one here and there and never develop a "habit". Some of us, like myself, get hooked like it's some kind of street drug. Some studies suggest it's a genetic predisposition. I don't know that the "delivery system" for the nicotine matters much.

But, you can order 0 nicotine liquids. There are tons. You don't have to have nicotine in your e-juice. It's optional. Maybe for you, it's just something about the act of smoking that you like and the nicotine isn't that important? You'd have to try and see.

Definitely, being you smoke so rarely, you want low nic juices. 6mg (0.6%) or lower. I smoked two packs a day (40 cigs) and my regular vape is between 6 and 9mg these days. I use 18 here and there but not all day. Not if I wanna get to sleep at nights (nicotine is a stimulant, I started too high at first and I'd be wide awake until well past 3 in the mornings... yeesh!).
 

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I feel your pain! lol I timidly put forth that Joyetech 510 kit, knowing it would get "snobbered" all over by "those who know better." But really, this is someone who says they only socially smoke once or twice a month! This is a case where suggesting even a single eGo with a 3.5 ml clearo would be overkill.

One of the most vexing things in the newbie arena is someone comes in saying "I want this" and what the person asked about gets ignored/bowled over/run aground from people who just don't listen. Suggesting better or different - sure. But ignoring what someone says they need or want out of the experience... drives me bonkers.

Meh. I know the "cig-a-like" don't get no love but a really light and/or social smoker? They could do fine with 'em. I've run into a couple that are doing quite will with Blah... I mean Blu. :)

Also, isn't the rule to run around New Members yelling "PROVARIIIIIIIII!!!!!!!"

I'm sure I read that on the Internet...
 

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I had to quit smoking because my vocal cords were a bit red and swollen. Cold turkey just didnt work. So I got my 1st kit just now. Feels awesome. Just hoping it does not aggravate the voacl cords... any advice for me wud be awesome. ..

I would not vape high PG juice as it is sometimes harsh on throat. Start with 50/50.
 

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Thanks a lot! I don't think I understood something though, do I not inhale with my lungs when vaping? Do I just keep it in my mouth like a cigar?

I'd start like that. I hold in the mouth then exhale through the nose myself. Don't lung inhale. There are people who inhale into their lungs but that gives me a coughing fit. We are talking water vapor and lungs and water? Dunno. :)

With smoking, people inhale into the lungs because that's where the nicotine is absorbed (and fast, I've read it reaches the brain in ten seconds or less that way). You being in the "social" category, it's probably not about the nicotine. I'd try a relaxed, even draw into the mouth, hold a bit (after all, flavors right?), blow the vapor out. Experiment with it. See what works for you. But a light/social smoker and a lung inhale? I see coughing fit.

Yeah I figured vaping wouldn't make me light headed like smoking sometimes does. I also like that head rush but what I was looking for is, as you said, the vaping experience: holding a cigarette-shaped thing between my fingers, puffing it every once in a while as I'm outside doing some thinking or just looking around; no smelly odours afterwards, no bad taste in my mouth; smooth vapor instead of rough smoke; and a good flavour!

Definitely watch the nicotine level. Go low. Try zero in fact. That "head rush" is nicotine hitting the brain. Me, I love it. But, then, I'm big time hooked on nicotine. My attempts to quit started when I was in my mid-twenties. Which was <mumble> years ago.

(Okay, okay... President Reagan was in office first time I tried quitting smoking)
 

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You don't get those sudden jolts to your system like you do from smoking. That's actually a good thing, but it can be a disappointment for some newbies and they try to vape themselves silly into a nicotine buzz - not good. Since it sounds like you want the vaping experience more than the nicotine buzz this probably won't be an issue for you. Just something to be aware of.

I agree with not getting a jolt to the system, but I can take six or seven drags on a 12mg liquid and get that exact headrush I'd get from an analog with no problem at all. Guess it affects everyone differently? :)

Thanks a lot! I don't think I understood something though, do I not inhale with my lungs when vaping? Do I just keep it in my mouth like a cigar?

Yeah I figured vaping wouldn't make me light headed like smoking sometimes does. I also like that head rush but what I was looking for is, as you said, the vaping experience: holding a cigarette-shaped thing between my fingers, puffing it every once in a while as I'm outside doing some thinking or just looking around; no smelly odours afterwards, no bad taste in my mouth; smooth vapor instead of rough smoke; and a good flavour!

Inhale techniques vary, you can do the cigar method and out your nose or mouth, I still do a direct lung inhale and then out my nose to maximize absorption of nicotine and it doesn't make me cough at all, so I'd say try it both ways and see what satisfies you the most! See my above comment to Rick regarding the headrush effect..it's definitely possible to get it even at low nicotine levels, but cigar-style puffs right back out of your mouth should minimize it (in my experience), and of course if you use nic-free juices you won't have to worry about it at all. I'd think about getting mostly 0mg juice/cartos and maybe a few 6mg or so for the times you want a rush..just my two cents.

ETA - mkbilbo above beat me to it, dang this stupid cheap keyboard I'm stuck using now!
 

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W I found eRoll to be quite expensive although very nice. Halo G6 seems to have a nice price and looks amazing but can I get it in the UK or Europe?However, it comes with 5 menthol cartomizers with 18mg nicotine and I'd rather have 6mg. As for buying 5 extra cherry cartomizers, I can't seem to be able to chose the dosage, all it says is it is filled with 1ml of liquid.

Thanks!

eRoll is not cheap as it is not junk. Joyetech makes a beautiful product. :) Also, you can fill the tanks with the liquid of your choice, just buy the juice in whatever mg and flavor you want.
 

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I normally get head rush from just one cigarette since I smoke so rarely. Normal Marlboros.

Also, nobody seems to say anything about those 2 brands that I've found, does it mean they're probably bad?

I'll link again just in case
V2 Cigs Economy Starter Kit - V2Cigs UK
PRIME 1 E Cigarette kit - Electronic cigarette shop | AIR e Cigs

Ah, sorry, must have missed those. The V2 kits are pretty good, I use their blank cartos and had one of their auto batteries for a while but gave it away when I switched to SI Volts. They're 808 thread, easy to refill, two piece design, and the batteries last longer than a 510 kit as well. I'd highly recommend them for a cigalike with a 'major brand' name on it, since I don't think SI does UK buyers.
 

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Don't make it difficult. Seriously, as a VERY light social smoker, WTH would you invest any serious money or time in an e cig. Not trying to be know it all, but really, just get a disposable and enjoy. If what you describe is your actual smoking habit, fooling with any equipment, recharging, refilling, etc. is a waste of time and effort.
 

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Well, hold it in if you want but what you do at that point is your own business.

(Mark wisely chooses to merely raise an eyebrow then wander off whistling.)



(Badly at that. Mark can't whistle.)




(Mark is, however, becoming concerned Mark is referring to himself in third person.)
 

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I normally get head rush from just one cigarette since I smoke so rarely. Normal Marlboros.

Also, nobody seems to say anything about those 2 brands that I've found, does it mean they're probably bad?

I'll link again just in case
V2 Cigs Economy Starter Kit - V2Cigs UK
PRIME 1 E Cigarette kit - Electronic cigarette shop | AIR e Cigs

My second purchase was a V2 cigs starter kit. Plenty of vapor and tasted good (I like Sahara). Battery life isn't enough for me, but I smoked significantly more than a few a month. I still use it occasionally. While they're not the best option for me, I still have to give them a thumbs up.
 
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