SOLVED: Dry hits chain vaping Wotofo Profile RDTA

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ChelsB

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I'm not a Profile RDTA user, but do you have to pack around the wicking rods a little with Cotton or Rayon? As it's something that is done with a few other similar type RDTA's.

Rayon may be worth considering, there's Grahame's Cellucotton Rayon and Tidi Non Sterile Rayon balls to choose from. But from what I've heard, Tidi is the better option.

And it definitely looks as though you need to work on the wick tails @Ionori. It's just the length doesn't seem bad, but it seems to thick or dense. So that may be acting like a plug and preventing air pressure to equalize.

And if you do pick up one of the newer Pulse 2 Squonk mods, make sure that a Cthulhu Mods Mjölnir rda accidentally drops in. It's not a mesh rda, but it's a serious flavour chaser rda that does produce a decent amount of cloud.

This is the first time I’ve heard of Tidi for rayon. I’ve always used Grahams. Is Tidi a lot better? I’m only seeing it available in super large quantities so I’m hesitant to buy
 

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    I'm not a Profile RDTA user, but do you have to pack around the wicking rods a little with Cotton or Rayon? As it's something that is done with a few other similar type RDTA's.

    Rayon may be worth considering, there's Grahame's Cellucotton Rayon and Tidi Non Sterile Rayon balls to choose from. But from what I've heard, Tidi is the better option.

    And it definitely looks as though you need to work on the wick tails @Ionori. It's just the length doesn't seem bad, but it seems to thick or dense. So that may be acting like a plug and preventing air pressure to equalize.

    And if you do pick up one of the newer Pulse 2 Squonk mods, make sure that a Cthulhu Mods Mjölnir RDA accidentally drops in. It's not a mesh RDA, but it's a serious flavour chaser RDA that does produce a decent amount of cloud.
    I cut back on the cotton by 50%, so the tails should be much thinner than in the original image. I also tried cutting them at an angle (shorter at the top) and only placing the thin bottom end of the wick on top of the ropes. Unfortunately, they still barely pull any liquid up from the tank. Maybe the tails are too short to make good contact with the ropes.

    The miracle wick that worked for 1 tankful unfortunately stopped wicking as well as it did. Tried making another wick, this time with longer tail ends (30° cutting angle vs 45° cutting angle previously) to really make sure the wick is touching the steel ropes, and it still barely does any wicking. Maybe my cotton just sucks, I've had an issue with wicking since I used up the old bag of cotton pads and started on the new one. The issue I'm having is that the wick will work perfectly for several tankfuls, then it will give dry hits even on a full tank.

    I already have some cotton on the way and I'll probably pull the trigger on a squonk mod soon, unless somebody who owns the Profile RDTA can verify that they managed to get theirs to consistently work the way I want it to, chain vaping on every inhale for an entire tankful (which is a fairly rare way to vape, so I'm not holding my breath). I expect a freshly squonked wick is going to be juicier and produce a more enjoyable vape than one that's being fed by capillary action alone, so hopefully I won't regret getting the squonker in case it turns out the problem was the cotton all along.
     
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    Mordacai

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    @ChelsB, Tidi is mentioned a fair bit in the 2nd Rayon thread. And from every user its supposed to be much better, but I'm in the UK and it isn't sold here. :(

    And @Ionori, you can go longer then with the tails on an RDTA and it'll be fine with it as long as you've got them reasonably thinned.

    But you could definitely try some Rayon as well, as your Cotton is sounding a little suspect. But are you using heavily sweetened juice or liquid?

    As a lot of commercial juices or liquids use Sucralose, and that eats coils and wicking alive within days of a fresh build.
     

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    @ChelsB, Tidi is mentioned a fair bit in the 2nd Rayon thread. And from every user its supposed to be much better, but I'm in the UK and it isn't sold here. :(

    And @Ionori, you can go longer then with the tails on an RDTA and it'll be fine with it as long as you've got them reasonably thinned.

    But you could definitely try some Rayon as well, as your Cotton is sounding a little suspect. But are you using heavily sweetened juice or liquid?

    As a lot of commercial juices or liquids use Sucralose, and that eats coils and wicking alive within days of a fresh build.

    Maybe I need to check out the rayon thread again. It’s been a long time since I’ve been over there. If I am able to find a more reasonable quality than 4,000, I’ll buy some and send you some!
     

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    One last thought @Ionori, the one end of each SS rope rods IIRC were welded on the ends. I installed my SS rope rods with the welded ends into the tank section. The other (not welded ends) were what was touching the cotton wick. That's all I can come up with. I don't power vape so mine will sit awhile between vape sessions. Yea, I use more than one mod at a time with different juices.:)
     

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    One last thought @Ionori, the one end of each SS rope rods IIRC were welded on the ends. I installed my SS rope rods with the welded ends into the tank section. The other (not welded ends) were what was touching the cotton wick. That's all I can come up with. I don't power vape so mine will sit awhile between vape sessions. Yea, I use more than one mod at a time with different juices.:)
    Unbelievable. At first I thought the welding marks were the refraction of light through eliquid droplets. Why Wotofo thought it would be a good idea to make the steel wicks directional and not tell the user is beyond me.

    Since the last time I put the steel wicks in, only 1 out of 4 had been installed improperly, but before that as many as 3 had been installed improperly at one time. After installing all of them in the correct orientation and rewicking (30° degree cut, short on top), I had successfully chain vaped 3 tanks down to 20% before refilling and continuing. The first 2 tanks were 50% VG, the latter was store bought, likely 70% VG. I had 1 hint of a dry hit, don't know what caused it, but it's definitely a massive improvement.

    I'm just baffled that Wotofo did this.
     

    Seiggy

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    Glad that is what it was. I was just running through in my head how I assembled mine when I remembered the welded ends. It confused me also and I just thought it was so it would be easier to install into the tank section. I never thought, Until NOW, that it would have a wicking effect. Glad it seems to have worked out. Now you can play with your wicking to see what works best for you with your different mesh types.
     

    amitlr

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    Came across this tread as i was experiencing the same issue. i usually chain vape hard for a minute or two than rest for a while or switch to a second unit (other mesh rta/rda) but mostly chain vape and almost never had dry hit issues with other products, including all profile products.
    This rdta gave me issues right from the start. by the 3rd wicking attempt, not blocking fill/air holes and watching a bunch of tutorials, i managed to up the wick speed a little but still very slow for my vaping style.
    I can confirm that just by placing the metal rods as suggested, with the welding down (on existing setup) , this thing is now up to speed.
    One thing i noticed, if its cold and i come back to it for a quick vape, i have to start slow. Otherwise it gets dry quickly. Once warmed up a little the performance gets much better.
     
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