Start-up kit, Suggestions for my elderly father

[FriedLiverAtack]

It so happens that my father has gotten curious enough from watching me vape to ask me to find something for him to buy. He is 73 years old and needs something that doesn't require much effort to use. I didn't find the Ego-T that satisfying but it may end up being the best option for him. Best to end up with something that is reliable and doesn't require syringes or dripping or other complicated routines. I am throwing up this thread for solutions because the answer probably lies with something I would not buy for myself. Please stick to complete systems in the $80 or less range.

 

[mikeinbc]

I purchased an Ego-T kit with a lanyard for my 76 year old mother. She is very happy with it and carries it around on her lanyard as she does her daily routines. I think it's a simply solution that has the right balance of battery life and light weight.

 

[vjc4]

kr-808 dm-1 kit.very reliable and very low maintenance

 

[mikeinbc]

If you're getting a 501/Ego usb type charger for your father, these outlet/usb surge protectors are handy to charge the batteries...
Amazon.com: Belkin 6 Outlet Surge Protector with USB: Electronics

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

If it is an Ego we go with, is the Ego-C better/worse compared to the Ego-T, all I know is that it appears the Ego-C breaks down further.

 

[tj99959]

First off DON'T sell us old farts short!

I too am in my 70s, build most of my VV mods myself, and I even rebuild my own atomizers.
However my daily vape is normally a Mako Midi V3 3.7v mechanical mod (predecessor to The Don) with a carto tank sitting on it.

What you will find however is that many of us refugees from geezerhood don't care for quite as much heat as most of you younguns like.

 

[Retriever]

A REO would be low maintenance for sure. If a bottom feeder doesn't appeal to you, then check out Smokelessimage and Vapor 4 Life. They both have some good KR808 kits available with good customer service.

 

[mynameisrob]

The eGo C is alittle easier to clean, but their still just as finicky and can leak like the older eGo T tanks. If you want an eGo, I would just get a regular one and use cartos.

Personally I would go with an Epower or kGo instead of an eGo though. Their both 3.7V pVs while the eGo is only 3.3-3.4V. 3.7V PVs provide alittle more "oomph" and more importantly handle the lower resistance attys and cartos a lot better. Both have really good battery life, and are the same price, if not cheaper, than what most vendors sell the eGo for. You can buy an Epower or kGo kit for $40-50.
The main difference between the 2 is that the Epower uses removable non-proprietary batteries, which only cost about 1/4 the price of eGo/kGo batteries. Also everything is replaceable on the Epower so it's cheaper to maintain, while with the ego/kGo everything is one unit, and the whole unit needs to be rePlaced if something fails.
I have an Epower and love it, but the kGo is also a quality PV that gives a great vape.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

No, I'm not selling any geezers short. I'm sure that my dad could build a mod from scratch if he set his mind to it as he was a steelworker most of his life. But he's only mildly interested and I don't want to stick him with something that requires too much of a learning curve.

The Reo is a nice device, but expensive, and I think the bottom feeding is bothersome, in fact I just put a Reo Mini up on the classifieds.

I tend to agree about the E-power or Kgo as they are 3.7, do these use Ego tanks (which are super simple in spite of their many faults). I'm sure he could figure out a carto/tank and I am virtually an expert on them, but the ego-t is very beginner friendly.

 

[tj99959]

but the ego-t is very beginner friendly

That's true, in fact my first e-cig was an eGo-T. I would point out tho' that it only satisfied my needs for about a month.
I would also point out that my friends at the vendor say that they get more call on how to fix an eGo-T than all other e-cig models combined.

If you want to set him up with a "T" type device, get a couple of these, they are twice as good at half the price.
http://altsmoke.com/feature/vision-ego-transparent-clearomizer.html
If the Vision ego and the Kgo bat had been avalible when I first started, I probablly wouldn't have about two dozen mods sitting here. But, the Vision eGo is a low voltage device, and they go south at anything above 4.2volts.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

That's true, in fact my first e-cig was an eGo-T. I would point out tho' that it only satisfied my needs for about a month.
I would also point out that my friends at the vendor say that they get more call on how to fix an eGo-T than all other e-cig models combined.

If you want to set him up with a "T" type device, get a couple of these, they are twice as good at half the price.
AltSmoke.com | Personal Vaporizers | Electronic Cigarette | Ecigs | Vision eGo Transparent Clearomizer
If the Vision ego and the Kgo bat had been avalible when I first started, I probablly wouldn't have about two dozen mods sitting here. But, the Vision eGo is a low voltage device, and they go south at anything above 4.2volts.

As I said Ego-T has its issues and is largely why I started this thread to look for other options. Your link is to Vision clearomizers, I tried some other version of the Vision and a number of other similar CE2 devices and none of them worked properly out of the box. They generally produced dry hits, flooded, and/or leaked plus requiring modding or other tweaking to get them to work properly and even then had issues. With that said, when they did work they produced good full vapor.

I am leaning toward a cheap mod and one of my M1A1 carto tanks that has a filling port. They are pretty much idiot proof, not that my father is an idiot, far from it. I think that Hoosiers has a Epower that is offered as a starter kit (packaged with cartos or carto/tank). Unfortunately at the moment their website is being revamped.

 

[Stoggy24]

Actually im using a kgo and the vision egos as i started 3 weeks ago i wanted something simple and in my mind its simple as it comes and the vision ego clearos are great they dont leak easy to fill and normally the natural motion of vaping keeps the wicks wet if not u can turn it for like 2 seconds to rewet it

 

[tj99959]

I tried some other version of the Vision and a number of other similar CE2 devices and none of them worked properly out of the box. They generally produced dry hits, flooded, and/or leaked plus requiring modding or other tweaking to get them to work properly and even then had issues

Yup, I had the same experence with all the other CE type devices. So far the only issue I have seen with the Vision eGo is that you can't turn the heat up above 4.2v. No leaking at all, fires every time, dry hits will only happen if you let the wick run dry. (need to tip it for juice to keep the wick wet)
I've been using one since they came out, and I have never done anything to it except put more juice in it. But, I do agree that a lot of people will never try these because of their bad experences with other CE2 type devices.

 

[christhomaswynn]

I started with an ego-t kit and it was pretty easy to use.

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

Anyone try the iGo and/or the Go-Go from nHaler. I have had good experience with this vendor for other things.

 

[imsoenthused]

Go-go with the clear dual coil cartos from discount vapor is my stock answer when recommending a starting PV to anyone. Haven't seen anything easier to use or that produces the same consistent clouds of vapor as they do for the price. The kgo is probably the next closest step down. The only, and I do mean ONLY issue with the Go-Go is the proprietary threading, which is off set by the cartos for it being so good, even the stock cartos for it are good. Not to mention you can grab a 510 adapter for them from discount vapors and basically turn one into a fantastically reliable 1300mau ego style battery at the drop of a hat.

 

[tokarev]

Unless your father is into gadgets, I'd avoid the mods, tanks, etc. and go for a standard 510 or Ego kit with cartomizers. I love the gadgets myself, but I think a lot of new users would just give up if things get too complicated.

 

[Prism]

For a starter kit if you are looking for ease of use I would go with something like the volt that has prefilled cartos and juice that matches so he can fill them. The long batteries last a long time and after almost 2 years and finding that most mods were too hot and too much hassle I have been using them for about 3 months. The first thing is to get him something he can use without frustration then let him decide where he wants to go from there,

 

[FriedLiverAtack]

For a starter kit if you are looking for ease of use I would go with something like the volt that has prefilled cartos and juice that matches so he can fill them. The long batteries last a long time and after almost 2 years and finding that most mods were too hot and too much hassle I have been using them for about 3 months. The first thing is to get him something he can use without frustration then let him decide where he wants to go from there,

What is the "volt" and where does it come from? Due to its name, it is hard to google.

I am considering every suggestion and still pondering the question that prompted this thread. It is easy to forget that most people just buy a kit and use it without wandering around forums and dreaming of the next best thing. I know a gentleman that has been using a basic 510 kit for years and shows no interest in upgrading even when showed my more fancy and powerful equipment. This kind of person is not represented here, and I believe my dad is part of this "demographic."

 

[txtumbleweed]

I am 71 and I have tried them all. If I was just starting and wanted the simple and best setup. I would choose the Echo auto 1300 from Cropduster.com or the iTurbo 1300 auto kit from VaporGirl.