I decided last week to try my hand at making my own juice flavor mixes. No, I'm not distilling nic or making actual flavor mixes, I'm using commercially available products to blend my own nic concentrations and flavors. While it may or may not save money in the long run, my primary reason is to have as much control as possible over nicotine content and flavor.
So far it has worked out well. I've been vaping for about 9 months now and the problem I found is that the taste from normal suppliers varied dramatically, even between the same carts in a pack. I began by reading pretty much every thread, every comment on this forum for several months. Then I put together my "starter lab".
125ml of 60mg nic, 75%PG / 25%VG (food grade and kosher just for added purity
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250ml of 0mg nic, 100% PG (food grade and kosher just for added purity )
125ml of 0mg nic, 100% VG for later taste testing (food grade and kosher just for added purity )
10 6ml bottles of PG based flavor concentrate
20 15ml plastic mixing bottles
10 50ml glass bottles for holding new nic mixture
10 10ml syringes
10 3 ml syringes
10 1.5 ml syringes
10 18ga 1.5" needles
Box of latex gloves
Large plastic tray for mixing
Eye glasses and face shied for initial dilution mix of nic
I have no kids and my dog is too old to care, so I'm not worried about the liquid being accidentally consumed.
First thing I did was to dilute about 1/2 of the nicotine mixture down to 15mg concentrate by adding 100% PG and placed into glass jars. I measure everything by ml measurements, not big on using "drops" as these can vary too much. Remember, my wish is to be able to maintain consistency. These are then sealed and placed inside doubled plastic bags to prevent leakage. I've been a 100%PG user since day one, so moving to using some VG is an attempt to smooth out the draw. With the 15mg mixture, I'm able to further easily dilute this down on an as needed basis.
The initial flavor test was with pomegranate (one of my favorite flavors in commercial products). Began with a 0.4 ml solution of flavor to 10ml of 15mg nic juice (4% flavor). Too potent. Added 0.05 ml pure lemon juice. Added 10ml pure PG to mix to drop nic level to 7.5 mg and flavor to 2% concentrate. Still a bit perfumey, but let sit for 2 days. PERFECT! 4 days later, flavor is still same and perfect.
Next came "Lemonade". This was just a test on how 100% lemon juice would work on its own. Diluted 15mg nic juice to 5mg using 100% PG. Added 0.2 ml lemon juice to 10ml nic concentrate. Pretty impressive. Steeping hasn't really changed the flavor that much, but maybe a tad too strong on the lemon flavor. Will taste test again after a 7 day steep.
I'll add more test flavors as I go, coming up is Amaretto, Cinnamon Roll, Cappuccino, Bing Cherry and more.
dave
So far it has worked out well. I've been vaping for about 9 months now and the problem I found is that the taste from normal suppliers varied dramatically, even between the same carts in a pack. I began by reading pretty much every thread, every comment on this forum for several months. Then I put together my "starter lab".
125ml of 60mg nic, 75%PG / 25%VG (food grade and kosher just for added purity
)250ml of 0mg nic, 100% PG (food grade and kosher just for added purity
)125ml of 0mg nic, 100% VG for later taste testing (food grade and kosher just for added purity
)10 6ml bottles of PG based flavor concentrate
20 15ml plastic mixing bottles
10 50ml glass bottles for holding new nic mixture
10 10ml syringes
10 3 ml syringes
10 1.5 ml syringes
10 18ga 1.5" needles
Box of latex gloves
Large plastic tray for mixing
Eye glasses and face shied for initial dilution mix of nic
I have no kids and my dog is too old to care, so I'm not worried about the liquid being accidentally consumed.
First thing I did was to dilute about 1/2 of the nicotine mixture down to 15mg concentrate by adding 100% PG and placed into glass jars. I measure everything by ml measurements, not big on using "drops" as these can vary too much. Remember, my wish is to be able to maintain consistency. These are then sealed and placed inside doubled plastic bags to prevent leakage. I've been a 100%PG user since day one, so moving to using some VG is an attempt to smooth out the draw. With the 15mg mixture, I'm able to further easily dilute this down on an as needed basis.
The initial flavor test was with pomegranate (one of my favorite flavors in commercial products). Began with a 0.4 ml solution of flavor to 10ml of 15mg nic juice (4% flavor). Too potent. Added 0.05 ml pure lemon juice. Added 10ml pure PG to mix to drop nic level to 7.5 mg and flavor to 2% concentrate. Still a bit perfumey, but let sit for 2 days. PERFECT! 4 days later, flavor is still same and perfect.
Next came "Lemonade". This was just a test on how 100% lemon juice would work on its own. Diluted 15mg nic juice to 5mg using 100% PG. Added 0.2 ml lemon juice to 10ml nic concentrate. Pretty impressive. Steeping hasn't really changed the flavor that much, but maybe a tad too strong on the lemon flavor. Will taste test again after a 7 day steep.
I'll add more test flavors as I go, coming up is Amaretto, Cinnamon Roll, Cappuccino, Bing Cherry and more.
dave
