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I agree on variable voltage UNLESS your ohms are right, maximum 1,8 for a standard battery.
You could also try a vivi nova mini, or an iclear16 as someone suggested.

Also, with e cigs, you slowly draw the vapour into your mouth, this takes up to 10 seconds, where a puff of a cigarette takes half a second. Then you either inhale, or you "play" with the vapour, blowing it out of your nose etc. .... sorta like smoking a pipe or a cigar.

For the first two weeks, i both vaped and smoked, thus convincing my brain that i actually don't like the taste of cigarettes, and that i get all the nicotine i want from vaping. I havent smoked since.

If you don't want to be concerned with ohms, get a twist or a spinner, then increase the voltage slowly until the vape is perfect
 

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How much and what did you used to smoke, bettysue?

I smoke 2-3 packs a day of Menthol 100's. I used to smoke brands like 305's and other generic brands however a couple of years ago when the government and Florida raised the taxes and cost of cigarettes to almost double the price for a carton I couldn't afford them
anymore as I am disabled and on a fixed income. So through a lot of experimenting I finally found Clippers whic is actually a cigar that looks and tastes like a cigarette (at least to me) so my 2-3 packs a day is of Clipper Menthol, which are 100's.

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Sure, I will give you two pieces of advice I REALLY think will help:

1) Increase your nicotine mg/perml. What are you using right? How many cigs did you smoke a day?

2) Don't feel bad if you still smoke cigs while using your e-cig. It isn't just nicotine you are addicted to, it is MANY chemicals in the cigs. Feel free to still smoke a few cigs, as long as you are TAPERING.

Eventually, you wont want the cigs anymore at all.

The strange thing about my cigarette smoking is that normally I smoke 2-3 packs a day. Yet 2 years ago and a couple of months ago I was in the hospital. The stay 2 years ago was for 13 days and the more recent one was for 6 days. During both stays they offered me nicotine patches which I refused. The reason I refused them is while in the hospital I don't even think about smoking, crave it, or have any desire to light up. As soon as I'm discharged and in the car to return home, I light up right away.

This has always made the wonder if I am more emotionally addicted to cigarettes than physically addicted. While I'm sure ther is some level of physical addition I am thinking the emotional need overrides it.

I would love to hear opinions on this,

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Thank you so much for the links they helped :)
Things is I don't see much difference in those and the ones that came with my kit:

SmokTech Redux eGo Clearomizer with Changeable, Replaceable Heads, Coils, and Wicks

What am I not seeing or understanding?

thank you again,
betty
 

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The strange thing about my cigarette smoking is that normally I smoke 2-3 packs a day. Yet 2 years ago and a couple of months ago I was in the hospital. The stay 2 years ago was for 13 days and the more recent one was for 6 days. During both stays they offered me nicotine patches which I refused. The reason I refused them is while in the hospital I don't even think about smoking, crave it, or have any desire to light up. As soon as I'm discharged and in the car to return home, I light up right away.

This has always made the wonder if I am more emotionally addicted to cigarettes than physically addicted. While I'm sure ther is some level of physical addition I am thinking the emotional need overrides it.

I would love to hear opinions on this,

betty

Were you on meds in the hospital Betty? If so, that could explain it, as tobacco leaves have some medicinal properties that you may have been getting already in the hospital so you didnt crave the nicotine or cigs. For example, some pain meds have a 'calming effect' as well.

You are emotionally addicted, as we all were/ are, but there is definitely a physical addiction that happens from smoking as well.
 

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I am using a modified Joytech Ego C kit. This is what I have:
Joyetech eGo-C Starter Kit - MyFreedomSmokes.com

My e-liquid is menthol flavored tobacco and I have it in 24mg and 12mg. At first I kept choking on the 24mg so it was suggested that I dilute it down to about a 16mg which I did. I still choked and coughed with it so I bought some 12mg which went down much smoother.

Looking back I am wondering if I was choking on the 24 and 16 if it was more technique than strength causing it.

betty

I think you discovered your problem - technique. You obviously need 18mg - 24mg nicotine level, like the vast majority of people trying to transition to vaping. But vaper is much dryer than smoke. When you inhale, take the vaper into your mouth and slowly into your lungs. And try at first to not take it deep into your lungs until you get use to it.
 

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Thank you so very much to all of you that posted very encouraging messages.

I am not giving up, just feeling guilty that it's not going faster. I guess I just need to be patient and keep trying. Every day my husband, who has never smoked, asks me how it's going with the e-cig as I know he is anxious for me to quit. I am not trying to quit for him, it is for me, however I still feel pressured.

Paerhaps the times I'm feeling like I'm failing I need to come back to this post and re-read all the wonderful replies of encouragement :)

thank you again,
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Were you on meds in the hospital Betty? If so, that could explain it, as tobacco leaves have some medicinal properties that you may have been getting already in the hospital so you didnt crave the nicotine or cigs. For example, some pain meds have a 'calming effect' as well.

You are emotionally addicted, as we all were/ are, but there is definitely a physical addiction that happens from smoking as well.

The meds I was on were the same ones I take daily at home. The only thing different was an antibiotic IV that they gave me a couple of times a day.

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The strange thing about my cigarette smoking is that normally I smoke 2-3 packs a day. Yet 2 years ago and a couple of months ago I was in the hospital. The stay 2 years ago was for 13 days and the more recent one was for 6 days. During both stays they offered me nicotine patches which I refused. The reason I refused them is while in the hospital I don't even think about smoking, crave it, or have any desire to light up. As soon as I'm discharged and in the car to return home, I light up right away.

This has always made the wonder if I am more emotionally addicted to cigarettes than physically addicted. While I'm sure ther is some level of physical addition I am thinking the emotional need overrides it.

I would love to hear opinions on this,

betty


Yes, you are DEFINITELY more emotionally/mentally attached to cigs then physically.


Coming from someone who has spent years battling an opiate addiction, I can assure you, I am familar with all aspects of addiction.

While there is minor physical addiction to nicotine/cigarettes (I say minor compared to other addictions, but its all relative)....the mental/emotional addiction is fairly intense.


The reason you weren't craving cigs in the hospital, was because your triggers weren't being activated. In addiction, "triggers" are things that make you want to use whatever it is you are addicted to.

For me, my triggers are coffee, waking up in the morning (my morning cig used to be my best), before sleep, after sex, after eating, if I see someone else smoking/light up, boredom, and many other things.

You mentioned once you were back in your car, you had to light up again. ironically, driving is a huge trigger for many.


I HIGHLY recommend you don't go cold turkey. It sounds to me, based on your original post, and your replies, that you would be more successful making a transition from cigs to e-cigs.


If you are smoking 2-3 packs a day, try cutting down to 75% of what you would normally smoke, for the first few days. After maybe 5 days or so, try cutting down to 50-60%. After 10 days, try cutting down to 30%, and so on, and so on.

The amount you cut down on, and how fast you taper is up to YOU. Nobody knows your body better than you. Not me, not anyone on this forum, not even a doctor, you can believe that.

Everytime you feel like smoking, USE YOUR e-CIG. If that doesn't do it, and you just really want that cig, don't be afraid to smoke one!



One thing I've learned when dealing with addictions, is its best to progress slowly for most people. It isn't about forcing your body to not smoke......it is about gently allowing your body to bond with e-cigs, instead of cigs. It WILL happen, if you give it a real chance.


Since you were smoking 2-3 packs a day, it just might take a few weeks before you feel comfortable completely cutting out cigs.


Honestly, at 2-3 packs a day, I would be SURPRISED if you just picked up an e-cig and never looked back.


I smoked for about 6 years, around 15-20cigs a day. It took a few days for me before I stopped smoking cigs while using e-cigs, and my habit is NOTHING compared to yours! So have faith!
 

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it may not be equipment but simple habit.

Your brain is used to analogs. The e cig is foreign to it. What helped me was every time i even had the slightest urge to smoke i picked up my pv and vaped. Every time... Seriously you may vape alot for a few days doing this but over the course of a week or two you will re teach your brain the new habit. Sounds strange but it totally works.

I think this is absolutely spot on.

Just realize that while some people pick up an e-cig and barely look back, there are plenty (myself included) who still have to struggle to give up analogs.

Finding flavors you love, the right nic level and equipment that works well for you will help, but when it gets right down to it you still have to exert your will to make the shift should you choose to do so.
 

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I do understand addictions somewhat as I know I can't gamble because if I do I will bet on anything and everything and not really care if I win or not as long as I can keep betting. I also believe that addictions can be inherited. My father also had a gambling problem plus he drank and was also a smoker.

Congrats on overcoming your addiction!

I had never evn thought about the missing triggers while in the hospital. I know the times I aalways light up are while I am on the computer, after I eat, etc. I will try to subsitute the regular cigarette with the e-cig at those times to see how it goes.

Thank you so much again for your wonderful reply,
betty
 

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This has always made the wonder if I am more emotionally addicted to cigarettes than physically addicted. While I'm sure ther is some level of physical addition I am thinking the emotional need overrides it.

I would love to hear opinions on this,

betty

for me, I do believe I am addicted to the habit. I dropped my nic quickly after starting, I now use 6nic, mostly because I believe some nic is good for you. since I don't want to weigh 900 lbs, I believe I'll keep my vaping habit :)
you should tell hubby that asking everyday makes you want a cig :) and that we told you to take it slow
I tapered off cigs. I started by delaying my first cig of the day. first day I vaped 10 min, then had a cig, next day I vaped 20 min, then had the cig. after a week or so it was 1 in the afternoon before I had my first cig. same with after meals. in the car I would lite the cig, hit it a couple of times, put it out and vape. my cig lasted several hours of traveling/shopping. just in case any of that helps you :) I still smoke 2 cigs a day, before bed because I'm old and I want to. and I'll probably always do that....
 

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I do understand addictions somewhat as I know I can't gamble because if I do I will bet on anything and everything and not really care if I win or not as long as I can keep betting. I also believe that addictions can be inherited. My father also had a gambling problem plus he drank and was also a smoker.

Congrats on overcoming your addiction!

I had never evn thought about the missing triggers while in the hospital. I know the times I aalways light up are while I am on the computer, after I eat, etc. I will try to subsitute the regular cigarette with the e-cig at those times to see how it goes.

Thank you so much again for your wonderful reply,
betty



You are MORE than welcome. Feel free to private message me if you ever want to talk more, I'm hear to help, just like others are helping me so much here.

Two more things,

A support group is very important in dealing with ANY addiction, and when dealing with cigarette addiction, you have the PERFECT support group here :)

I actually keep this forum open in like 2-3 tabs on my mozilla firefox browser all day long :)


2) It helps if you write down all your triggers. By doing that, you not only recognize your triggers (something I never really was able to do completely until I wrote them down), but you also will have a better idea of what causes the cravings, and when the best times to use e-cigs are.


Also, find your WORST triggers.....the strongest ones, and if you need to, allow yourself to have a cigarette when the strongest triggers are present.....that will help with tapering as well.

For instance, my morning cigarette is my strongest trigger, so I wouldn't feel guilty at all about having my morning cig....although for the past 3 days, I haven't wanted one (which is AMAZING)!
 

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for me, I do believe I am addicted to the habit. I dropped my nic quickly after starting, I now use 6nic, mostly because I believe some nic is good for you. since I don't want to weigh 900 lbs, I believe I'll keep my vaping habit :)
you should tell hubby that asking everyday makes you want a cig :) and that we told you to take it slow
I tapered off cigs. I started by delaying my first cig of the day. first day I vaped 10 min, then had a cig, next day I vaped 20 min, then had the cig. after a week or so it was 1 in the afternoon before I had my first cig. same with after meals. in the car I would lite the cig, hit it a couple of times, put it out and vape. my cig lasted several hours of traveling/shopping. just in case any of that helps you :) I still smoke 2 cigs a day, before bed because I'm old and I want to. and I'll probably always do that....

I like your idea of what to tell my hubby :) So far all I keep saying is "I'm trying". Thank you for letting me know how you started vaping and cutting down on cigarettes, I may have to try it.

thanks again,
betty
 

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My worst trigger which I don't yet know how to compensate for is anxiety. When I am stressed I chain smoke. My anxiety level is so high a psychiatrist I used to have prescribed me four xanax a day. I told her I didn't want to take that many as they made me drowsy. She said with my anxiety level she would rather I sleep than be awake and alert all the time. I never took the four xanax a day and on most days didn't take any. At one point I counted over 200 of them in a bottle from dumping them in there each month when I got them filled. I ended up dumping them down the toilet.

Writing down my triggers is a great idea. The trick to that is recognizing when I want to smoke a cigarette is it due to a trigger or a craving.

Thank you for your offer for me to PM you, I just may take you up on it sometime soon :)

Thank you for the wonderful and insightful reply,

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you might want to visit this thread if you haven't already:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/405553-yes-i-still-smoke-cigarettes-i-am-addicted-smoking-habit-support-chat-thread.html

and this thread, it was a contest but still you might get ideas from the posts. read the first post, it talks about wta which seems to help some people...

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/pay-forward-pif/403159-pif-please-help-me-finally-quit-completely-contest.html

as others have said, hang in there, don't stress!

Thank you for the links they are just what I need!!

betty
 
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