Still New, still looking for that satisfiying vape

[cipher]

Sooo, I've been vaping now for about 2 1/2 weeks. When I started, I just quit cigarettes. I expected to feel unsatisfied for a week maybe even two, I'm just now starting to feel slightly nervous. I've been on this forum every night and part of the day trying to determine exactly why I still want to smoke.

1. I think I need a stronger throat hit. I've been alternating between VG and PG. Thing is, I get a good throat hit off both, but only about 1 in 5 vapes.

2. Vapor! I don't need plumes mind you, but the puny little puffs I usually produce, well, enough said.

3. I own a 510. I have 3 batteries. I can go thru all 3 batteries in less that 5 hours. My best bet so far has been the passthrough; which hasn't been that much of a chore considering all the time I'm at the computer reading these threads.

4. The nic level is 18mg. Both VG and PG. Good flavor, I can't see any reason why these should be a problem.

Tried the PTB thinking that the regular filler wasn't wicking fast enough. Blown out my atty (few times I did overfill). I can say that I have achieved a sated feeling a few times. I just can't figure out how to duplicate it on a regular basis. Will buying a bigger battery, say a 650 or even something like the new Boge Leo do the trick or am I barking up the wrong tree and I just need to sweat it out?

 

[RyMel]

I started out with a little ecig and the batteries dying during the day was such a drag. bought the joye ego and haven't picked the other one back up since! as for still feeling the urge, hubby had this problem too, and he switched to a higher nic on and off throughout the day and that has seemed to help a lot. I think the amount of vapor does help to satisfy the craving more than you realize. And I am a menthol fan, so don't have a problem getting a throat hit. sometimes i even cough on my first drag first thing in the morning!

it's never going to feel like an actual cig, but if you find the right combo of flavor, nic strength and vapor production, it does a great job replicating the act of smoking. and I think most of all you have to be READY to walk away from analogs, period. if your mind is not set it is easy for that little voice in your brain to trick you!

 

[cipher]

I think most of all you have to be READY to walk away from analogs, period. if your mind is not set it is easy for that little voice in your brain to trick you!

You are absolutely right. I've been diagnosed with an illness and my doctor was very thorough showing me why I need to quit. Unfortunately I've smoked for almost 30 years. I am committed to quitting cigarettes, I'm just not committed to quitting nicotine at this time. I think I might try out some menthol flavors; from your statement that throat hit may become more evident with them.

 

[SpEcTReCHieF]

Hey cipher, well first let me say Welcome!! I just quit recently also and like RyMel said, I think the higher nic levels helped me. I have been using both 24 and 36 mg juice. I have had very few cravings and it seems to help. As for vapor production, you could also try a LR atty (low resistance) if you haven't already. Also the more VG the better the vapor production. If you are thinking about a diff kit, most will suggest either the Riva or the eGo as some of the best starter kits out there. I would order a nice kit and some flavor samplers from a few vendors and see if that helps. Good luck!!

 

[wv2win]

If you want a vaping experience that has great throat hit, is consistent from inhale to inhale and lasts 5 to 6 hours then I would suggest you find a good 5 volt mod PV. It's why so many vet vapors use them. I would suggest either the GLV from Great Lakes Vapor or for a less expensive option, a 5 volt box mod from Ken's Box Mods. There are seveal other good 5 volt models out there if you do a little searching. Here are their sites:

Electronic Cigarettes and E-Liquid - Great Lakes Vapor

Box Mods

You will get that consistency that you are looking for.

Good Luck

NOTE: I also agree with the poster who suggested trying 24mg nicotine strength. That won't help in the consistency part but will help with making the transition with less withdrawl.

 

[Stosh]

I also agree with the poster who suggested trying 24mg nicotine strength. I was a 1 1/2 pad
smoker for 35+ years, and the 24 - 30mg works for me. You kinda do want clouds of vapor
as that's what contains the nic. My eGo works great, battery lasts all day, and with a manual
battery you can give the atty enough juice so that there's enough and enough NIC to satisify.

Hang in there, you may slip a couple times, just vape more, longer and stronger!!

 

[Mikeyb1010]

YEa absolutely 24 mg. Make sure to do your research on the best ecig. if looks do not matter mods usually are the best with battery life and vapor production

 

[cipher]

Consensus is 24mg nic, sounds good. I've been getting JC liquid; tastes good. I haven't seen 24mg available from them. What would be a good supplier? I decided to go with JC because I want to spend my money at american companies. I'm very concerned about what I'm inhaling (yeah, oxymoronic statement coming from a almost 30yr smoker) and want to be sure that the company is in good standing with the vaping community on quality. I've started checking out the Ego, since I have the 510, most everything I have appears to be compatible with it. But, should I go with 650 or the 900? And, , where do I find all those 'coupons' and discounts I read about?

 

[DonG]

I got my first order (510) a little over two weeks ago. Got 26mg 555 juice wanted the tobacco taste that everyone seems to want when quitting. I also got a mini sample of some menthol juice (never really smoked menthols but as an afterthought). Wish Id gotten more of the menthol.

 

[WomanOfHeart]

Consensus is 24mg nic, sounds good. I've been getting JC liquid; tastes good. I haven't seen 24mg available from them. What would be a good supplier? I decided to go with JC because I want to spend my money at american companies. I'm very concerned about what I'm inhaling (yeah, oxymoronic statement coming from a almost 30yr smoker) and want to be sure that the company is in good standing with the vaping community on quality. I've started checking out the Ego, since I have the 510, most everything I have appears to be compatible with it. But, should I go with 650 or the 900? And, , where do I find all those 'coupons' and discounts I read about?

You can check out VaporBomb and Gourmet Vapor for juices. Both of them have 24mg strength available for all their juices.
Everything you can use with your 510 can be used with the eGo or Riva batteries. The eGo 650mah will last approximately 6-8 hours before it needs a recharge. The 900mah will last at least 12 hours. I have one and it's averaging 14 hours, but I don't vape it dead before I put it on the charger. My fiance also has one and his lasted a day and a half before it went dead and needed charging. YMMV. We're both pretty heavy vapers.

The coupon list can be found here. I'm not sure when it was last updated, so some of the coupon codes might not work.

 

[Led Zaper]

Sooo, I've been vaping now for about 2 1/2 weeks. When I started, I just quit cigarettes. I expected to feel unsatisfied for a week maybe even two, I'm just now starting to feel slightly nervous. I've been on this forum every night and part of the day trying to determine exactly why I still want to smoke.

1. I think I need a stronger throat hit. I've been alternating between VG and PG. Thing is, I get a good throat hit off both, but only about 1 in 5 vapes.

I would definitely consider cartomizers(Cartos), so much more consistent from puff to puff. Cartridges are great at first then TH quickly dwindles....

With your current e-cig, get regular (not LR) ones but run them through a 5volt pass-through. You'll get TH all right.
If it helps any, I did a quick noobie guide for noobs....

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-forum/135592-noobie-guide-noobie.html

I'm using the EGO and love it. Gave the 510 to my wife....
With the ego, go LR cartos cause they can handle the voltage requirements. LR's would quickly drain the 510.

 

[Icoth]

If your vaping experience varies from drag to drag, I don't think the battery is the problem. You say you only get good TH on 1 out of 5 puffs. Unless all the good ones are with a fresh battery and all the bad ones are after you've used it a while I think you have to look for a different solution. You may have been right when you suspected you weren't getting enough juice to the atty. You could try dripping and see if that makes things more consistent. The problem might also be in your technique. You may need to experiment a bit more and figure out what you are doing to get the TH you want. Getting a bigger battery or a mod might solve the problem and will certainly give you other benefits, but you might end up with a better hit one out of five times if you can't sort out the cause of your problem.

 

[RyMel]

with our ego's we are getting 13+ hour battery life consistently out of our main battery. every day from 8am til about 9:30-10:00 like clockwork. and that is all day steady vaping!~(we have the 650)
if you already have the 510, then that is probably your best bet, because the pieces are interchangeable you can keep the 510 as a backup or for social use (the ego is bulkier and makes some-but not me!- self conscience about it's use in public LOL)
good luck!

 

[Beandip]

Sooo, I've been vaping now for about 2 1/2 weeks. When I started, I just quit cigarettes. I expected to feel unsatisfied for a week maybe even two, I'm just now starting to feel slightly nervous. I've been on this forum every night and part of the day trying to determine exactly why I still want to smoke.

1. I think I need a stronger throat hit. I've been alternating between VG and PG. Thing is, I get a good throat hit off both, but only about 1 in 5 vapes.

2. Vapor! I don't need plumes mind you, but the puny little puffs I usually produce, well, enough said.

3. I own a 510. I have 3 batteries. I can go thru all 3 batteries in less that 5 hours. My best bet so far has been the passthrough; which hasn't been that much of a chore considering all the time I'm at the computer reading these threads.

4. The nic level is 18mg. Both VG and PG. Good flavor, I can't see any reason why these should be a problem.

Tried the PTB thinking that the regular filler wasn't wicking fast enough. Blown out my atty (few times I did overfill). I can say that I have achieved a sated feeling a few times. I just can't figure out how to duplicate it on a regular basis. Will buying a bigger battery, say a 650 or even something like the new Boge Leo do the trick or am I barking up the wrong tree and I just need to sweat it out?

I absolutely feel your pain!! I have yet to feel satisfied like analogs satisfy me, even with my new eGo.

 

[grandmato5]

Yep, sounds like you need some 24 mg, at least part of your day. The newness of vaporing along with the commitment to quitting smoking has kept you going for a couple weeks but now your body is telling you it time to get back to some serious nic and all those other chemicals in analogs that you've been depriving yourself of. Remember it's not just the nic we're addicted to and some of us may be more addicted to the other additives in analogs and habits we've formed then we actually are to the nic.

I started with the 510 and sometimes still use those batts but from what you've written I dont think that's gonna do it for you on a full time basis. The 510 batts don't stay consistant from start to dying. The Ego batts would be an improvement for you at this point and should produce more vapor for you like they do for me. I suspect a true 3.7 VT MOD would be even better and then you could use the 510LR atty if you wished without fear of killing your batts.

Vaping is never going to feel like smoking. There's enough similarities to allow many of us to switch fairly easily but it still has a lot of difference. It takes some of our bodies longer to fully adjust to those changes. Honestly I do feel I made the switch pretty easily BUT after two months there are still moments that pop up that my mind thinks I REALLY would like to have a smoke. I'm getting plenty of nic so its not the nic that I'm craving but old habits die hard and as someone else said here in this thread if ones not careful its easy for that little voice in your brain to trick you. Good Luck !!

 

[bookit]

I started with a Blu and that quickly became more of a chore than a pleasure. My biggest issue was their cartridge design. I found myself spending far too much time trying to mod them to flow right. I didn't particular like changing batts every 20 minutes either. I mean the Blu pack does keep me going but all the changing and charging was irritating. After much research I got a Riva from evcigarettes and I have been using the same batt all day with no issues. Filled my 510 cart about 15 times but maybe mega carts will solve that when I can justify another purchase. My other advice to new e smokers is don't get TOO cheap of liquid either. Got 2 30ml from strictlyejuice for 10$ each and they scorch my throat to the point that I can't talk. If you need to go cheap get real Dukang, it's not that expensive but better than knokoffs, I got mine from the evcigarettes. Liked the free bottle they sent. To each their own differant models and variations are great for different folks. Just be careful not to buy a cheap knock off as you will probably be dissapointed in the end. I can't be happier with my authentic EM RIVA, it's simply fantastic compared to my previous e cigs.

 

[Godzilla]

I definitely suggest a Riva or Ego. I have an ego, and it is awesome. It lasts me 6-7 hours, but I bring 2 charged ones with me at all times, with 2 different flavors going. I use 24 mg, and when I need to satisfy the craving, I have found Tasty Vapor Atomic Cinnacide works well. No analogs for me for nearly 3 months. Good luck to you.

 

[Springbird]

I don't like cartridges and atties because they are inconsistent. I don't have much patience with them, so I have never figured out how to use them correctly (I suspect). I use either the Mega Cartomizer or CE2s on my ego. The Mega Cartomizer is the most consistent, the CE2s are a little fussy but really great once the wick is right.

 

[KissMint]

I would recommend getting a mod, 24mg, and 36mg juice. I have an ego and it's okay. It is great for its price.
I get my juices from FSUSA, Backwoods Brew, Vapor bomb and Ms. T Bakery.

 

[wv2win]

If your vaping experience varies from drag to drag, I don't think the battery is the problem. You say you only get good TH on 1 out of 5 puffs. Unless all the good ones are with a fresh battery and all the bad ones are after you've used it a while I think you have to look for a different solution. You may have been right when you suspected you weren't getting enough juice to the atty. You could try dripping and see if that makes things more consistent. The problem might also be in your technique. You may need to experiment a bit more and figure out what you are doing to get the TH you want. Getting a bigger battery or a mod might solve the problem and will certainly give you other benefits, but you might end up with a better hit one out of five times if you can't sort out the cause of your problem.

I'm afraid I have to disagree. Inconsistency IS a classic sign of the battery power diminishing. The small, weak batteries on the "stock" PV's do cause this problem. As these small batteries drain, it's ability to heat the atomizer coil is impaired and thus the liquid is not vaporized consistently well and the throat hit greatly diminishes. You will get vapor but no TH. Larger batteries whether on an eGo or a mod solves this problem for a much longer time period.

Note: there may be additonal problems affecting consistency beyond the battery as you indicated. But the battery is definitely part of the problem with these smaller PV's.