Sub-Ohm Liquids

[Mr.Mann]

I recently tried 5 Pawns' Gambit out of a dual coil sub-ohm (< .4Ω) build in a Prometheus, and, well, that was clearly not how that liquid is supposed to be vaped (if you plan on really tasting what the vendor intended). Just out of curiosity, I was wondering what are some PRE-MADE liquids that are best to hit with high heat that not only retain their profile, but seem to shine under those conditions? (Please, no need to respond with your DIY liquids that no one but you has access to).

Is there a vendor out there specifically making liquids for this style of vaping besides MM?

 

[Kemosabe]

MrMann!
i have found that Halcyon is a vendor with flavorings on the lighter side. great flavors, but i dont know if theyve got any tobaccos.
i know youre a tobacco vaper so i dont have any direct recommendations, but i bet Giant Vapes would have a vendor you could rely on. they stock lots of the boutique / speciality / one-off liquids. lots of them appear to cater to the rba crowd.

 

[Mr.Mann]

MrMann!
i have found that Halcyon is a vendor with flavorings on the lighter side. great flavors, but i dont know if theyve got any tobaccos.
i know youre a tobacco vaper so i dont have any direct recommendations, but i bet Giant Vapes would have a vendor you could rely on. they stock lots of the boutique / speciality / one-off liquids. lots of them appear to cater to the RBA crowd.

Sabe, what's up, bruh?

Yeah, I am a tobacco vaper mostly, but not for this kind of deal. It's not even so much that I am trying to find a particular liquid, but I am interested to see what people use in these type of set-ups while getting accurate flavor (not just hints of it). I wouldn't mind one day going low, but if what I experienced is any indication of the way good liquid tastes that low, I can understand why many sub-ohmers just vape unflavored, or liquids like Pluid.

 

[vjc0628]

I am still in the experimental stage with this

I do find I like my tobacco's and other more complex stuff (or rather I should day liquids with more subtle complexities) on higher Ohms

on the lower Ohm's I find more simpler stuff and creams do well

I had recently had ahlusion lime cream in the trident at .45 ohms and it did real well
as does Nicoticket franilla and grandma cinnamon Danish

For me the sub ohm is just a toy I take out to play with once in a while
from others I speack with at a local place I go to for equiptment
most of them do a lot of sub ohm
they go for the cheaper liquids

the feeling I get from most of them flavors is far secondary
as performance and clouds of vapor reign supreme

Me I am the opposite and chase flavor

 

[Mr.Mann]

I am surprised there isn't a "line" of liquids marketed as such (maybe there is?). Oh well, if there isn't, I bet there will be. Man, I need to me more of a capitalist! LOL

 

[Kemosabe]

Sabe, what's up, bruh?

Yeah, I am a tobacco vaper mostly, but not for this kind of deal. It's not even so much that I am trying to find a particular liquid, but I am interested to see what people use in these type of set-ups while getting accurate flavor (not just hints of it). I wouldn't mind one day going low, but if what I experienced is any indication of the way good liquid tastes that low, I can understand why many sub-ohmers just vape unflavored, or liquids like Pluid.

personally i havent been able to get any type of accurate flavor in anything lower than 0.6Ω. i get great flavor at .6, but anything lower starts wreaking havoc on the flavor profile. the flavor becomes a mere shell of itself with all the nuances obliterated. imo the flavor would have to be very very basic for it to be recognized in a sub half ohm setup. any complex flavors will fall victim to the resistance.

then again, im sure its possible with a special type of build or particular atty to achieve great flavor at 0.5 and below. maybe some twisted ribbon or an atty with air flow coming from under the coil. or a combination of the two might get at the heart of it.

 

[SharonMM]

I am surprised there isn't a "line" of liquids marketed as such (maybe there is?). Oh well, if there isn't, I bet there will be. Man, I need to me more of a capitalist! LOL

There is. VapeAholic only sells through facebook and the first thing they ask is what setup you're intending to use, and they tailor the liquids to be compatible. Pretty sure I saw some posts referring to their sub-ohm blends...

 

[doots]

I don't get any flavor with a coil <.6 and don't make coils that low for that reason. I like my flavor.. I try and stay at .8-1.2

 

[AaronY]

Is there a vendor out there specifically making liquids for this style of vaping besides MM?

Vape Game from Oregon Vaping Rabbit and 4 Seasons flavors are made for dripping aka subohm. I think there flavors taste better with ultra high wattages. What is MM?

 

[Mr.Mann]

Vape Game from Oregon Vaping Rabbit and 4 Seasons flavors are made for dripping aka subohm. I think there flavors taste better with ultra high wattages. What is MM?

Mad Murdock. Thanks for the addition, Aaron. I feel if people are going to vape this way, at least they can learn about liquids that may be best suited for it.

 

[Mr.Mann]

There is. VapeAholic only sells through facebook and the first thing they ask is what setup you're intending to use, and they tailor the liquids to be compatible. Pretty sure I saw some posts referring to their sub-ohm blends...

Thanks, homegurrrl! Hmm...I've heard of another vendor doing something like that.

 

[Kemosabe]

Vape Game from Oregon Vaping Rabbit and 4 Seasons flavors are made for dripping aka subohm. I think there flavors taste better with ultra high wattages. What is MM?

that review confused me. its titled "The Vaping Rabbit great ejuice in wax sealed bottles", yet the impressions of the juice were anything but great.

 

[AaronY]

Mad Murdock. Thanks for the addition, Aaron. I feel if people are going to vape this way, at least they can learn about liquids that may be best suited for it.

I agree and thanks. for the info. Are all of Mad Murdocks flavors meant for sub ohm or just some?

 

[drews0306]

Try E-six Strangeland. I feel like this tastes best at .6 ohms. I havent gone below that resistance though. It is by far the best mango I've tried

 

[Jonathan]

I vape mbv razzle dazzle at .8 and it tastes awesome

 

[xanderxman]

I vape at about 0.4 ohms daily. All of my RDAs are setup at about that resistance. I have found most of the liquids I have tried from the local B&Ms here hold up well to sub-ohm vaping. I regularly have liquid from 4Seasonz Elixir, Roka E-liquids, Carnival E-liquids, Freemason's Elixir, The Vaping Rabbit, Adam Bomb, P.O.E.T. and One Up in rotation. All of the flavors from these vendors hold up well to my builds.

Most of these vendors are not mentioned regularly on ECF and I have actually found that I was able to expand my liquid experience exponentially by looking at sources other than ECF. It seems the same vendors are mentioned over and over on this site with a rare bit of variety on occasion.

If you have a B&M local I would suggest trying there. My local B&M has turned me on to so many good liquids that I never would have found on ECF.

 

[Mr.Mann]

... regularly have liquid from 4Seasonz Elixir, Roka E-liquids, Carnival E-liquids, Freemason's Elixir, The Vaping Rabbit, Adam Bomb, P.O.E.T. and One Up in rotation. All of the flavors from these vendors hold up well to my builds.

Most of these vendors are not mentioned regularly on ECF and I have actually found that I was able to expand my liquid experience exponentially by looking at sources other than ECF. It seems the same vendors are mentioned over and over on this site with a rare bit of variety on occasion.

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Good point. And yes, you are correct. There are myriad reasons as to why, but that doesn't make what you're saying any less correct.

 

[wonkeypickle]

no such thing, unfortunately.



if your build is set up correctly, there should be no issues regardless of juice. it's all pg/vg/nic/water, so different vendors working better or worse makes no difference.


i have tried just about every juice vendor worth mentioning, and haven't ever had an issue with a juice not tasting correctly. again, if something is tasting burnt or off, it's your set up. i run dual/quad nano coils at .19 ohm with cotton wick fyi.


again, it's your set up. play with wicking if your coils are firing properly, as this is really the only thing that would affect taste at this point.

 

[Mr.Mann]

no such thing, unfortunately.



if your build is set up correctly, there should be no issues regardless of juice. it's all pg/vg/nic/water, so different vendors working better or worse makes no difference.


i have tried just about every juice vendor worth mentioning, and haven't ever had an issue with a juice not tasting correctly. again, if something is tasting burnt or off, it's your set up. i run dual/quad nano coils at .19 ohm with cotton wick fyi.


again, it's your set up. play with wicking if your coils are firing properly, as this is really the only thing that would affect taste at this point.

Not to doubt your take, but I know liquid vendors, personally, who would say definitively that their liquid is not meant for high heat -- meaning all bets are off if you expect it to taste how they intended. And on the flip side, I know vendors that vape in the lower territory, thus fine tuning the creation of their liquids and ingredient profile (i.e., amount of various flavorings), against such set-ups.

 

[wonkeypickle]

Not to doubt your take, but I know liquid vendors, personally, who would say definitively that their liquid is not meant for high heat -- meaning all bets are off if you expect it to taste how they intended. And on the flip side, I know vendors that vape in the lower territory, thus fine tuning the creation and ingredient profile (i.e., amount of flavorings) against such set-ups.

sure, that makes sense. who is this lower temperature vaping oriented vendor? i would love to put their juices to the test.

as far as heat? meh. i personally don't see much difference as far as heat between a 1 ohm build and my .19 build. i would say heat up time is the only difference i myself have noticed, obviously the lower ohmage being the quicker to heat up. i only have my finger on the fire button for 2 seconds max, i doubt there's sufficient time for my coils to reach the maxium heat that they could produce. i am in no way shape or form the guru on thermal dynamics of ecigs, so if anyone else knows more about this feel free to chime in.


as for your original post, i use vapor chef and cyclops vapor on my previously mentioned setup with excellent results. :]