Sub Ohm Tanks!

[JBrentonK]

Hi guys interested in your opinions.

I'm a full time smoker, need my nicotine, and will go to great lengths to smoke all day long. So I go through a lot of juice. I would assume, too, that most people are full time smokers. That shouldn't be too hard to conclude.

I smoke most only sub ohm tanks. I don't know why anyone would use RDA's. I have 2 and they leak and can be turned upside down and the juice will fall out of the drip tip. That, and for the most part sub ohm tanks that are any good produce an amount of vapor comparable in nearly every way with RDA's. I have no need for that comparison, because I have no need for leaking or anything else. I sit my mod down or put it in my pocket just about every 5-10 minutes, and I must have the no leaking that comes with these tanks.

What sub ohm tanks do you like? I have found the Herakles thank god, and it produces a terrible amount of vapor, comparable in every way with an RDA. Has better taste than my RDA's (my RDA's are the Yep and the Atty3). Stores liquid instead of wastes it. RDA's tend to REALLY waste the e juice. I hate that!

Do you find any sub ohm tanks preferable? I am waiting on my shop to carry the Crown sub ohm tank, and that will be very nice when they get it. I've heard a lot about it. Really excited about its stainless steel coils. I have always had problems tasting my coils and hopefully the SS will fix that problem. I've tried the Arctic. The Isub tank. The Lemo (the Lemo is a horrible tank! If you want to know why I think so please ask away!). The TFV4. Tfv4 sucks up about as much liquid as an RDA, so I'd never use it.

I want to know if there are any other variety of tanks I do not know about. I am not necessarially interested in rebuildables, I hate to rebuild my coils, it takes at least 10 minutes, plus I have to buy the wire, IDK, I just don't feel at home with any RBA/RTA yet. You might suggest one if you think I'm missing out on anything, and honestly I think that may be an issue but I'm not sure.

Herakles and Crown appear to be the main sub ohm tanks of the world. Herakles is probably the best tank I will ever use, or one of the top. It is, no doubt. Nothing blows out as much vapor as my Herakles. And likely won't ever beat it by much. I've seen other people vape, there is no doubt in my mind. The taste is unbeatable. I was posting this mainly because I am interested in if there are other tanks like these. Do you know of any sub ohmers? Or any ideas about what I'm missing out on? Maybe I'm missing out on the RTA's. That could be my problem. I haven't seen any reason to switch to a tank. Perhaps you can supply that reason below my post.

I haven't tried the crown yet though. I'll hopefully like it a whole lot. Really disappointed in the TFV4. If you have anything you'd like to comment in about my little chat please feel free to be as open as possible.

Everybody smokes (if they do). And smoking e cigarettes is an amazing habit, very fun to get the higher output of smoke. They are a little more addictive than regular cigarettes, and I have an idea that the taste of the e liquid is a major factor in full appericiation. Any ideas on any e liquid btw? Suggestions? I have tried french toast before, the flavor, but my shop quit selling it before I was able to taste it on my Herakles. The arctic muted its flavor and it tasted like nothing but PG/VG. I smoke 80VG juices. My shop sells only 80VG juices or you can buy a high PG juice.

So, if you have something to tell me that I'm missing out on, please, make a rant. Sorry for typing so much, I hope you enjoyed reading this post of a fellow smoker.

JBrentonK

 

[Chuck64]

Welcome to ECF. You keep confusing me with the term smoker/smoke. Do you still smoke cigarettes or do you mean vape? I'm a new vapor who is still weening himself off the smokes.

 

[ismokeinbinary]

I will never use another prebuilt coil tank. Waste of money. RTAs are where it's at. I've got two Aromamizer RDTAs and I've got a Bellus coming from China.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I will never use another prebuilt coil tank. Waste of money. RTAs are where it's at. I've got two Aromamizer RDTAs and I've got a Bellus coming from China.

I'm right there with ya.
Waste of money, and my coils last months not days.
You'll like the Bellus.

 

[JBrentonK]

Why on earth would you ever use something like the Bellus? Prebuilt coils are where it's at, my man, that and sub ohmers. To answer the question about the smoke/smoker, I am a vaper, so I only vape, and the smoke, means the vape. I would not use the term "vape" because that is far too idiocrastic ... bureaucratic?

Seriously why the deal about the RTA's? I have no ideas of any good RTA's and the vapor they produce, so please feel free to comment. Any RTA I imagine wouldn't really compare to my Herakles. And if it beats it, that is news to me. Please post it.

If I am missing out on the RTA's, I'd also like to know why. Oh, and I'd probably never use an RDTA, I won't go for leaking, first, and I won't go for coil building, well I might, but it depends on what you have to say about it. Buildable coils are a waste of time, it is a horrible experience building coils, and any full time smoker would tell you that. Prebuilt coils are as simple as "pop in" and vape. You can't get that experience from buildable coils. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on any other sub tanks. But as always if I am please comment about it below.

Any videos you know or can post about RTA's? Where's the money really at for a full time smoker/vaper? I plan on youtubing simply "RTA's" and hopefully I will find something about the Bellus or some really high vapor producing tanks. Building on an RTA isn't a pain if it's a single coil design. But all the pain in dual coils is really a lot of work. Plus remember I have the Lemo, and I've never experienced too much pain from that.

JBrentonK

 

[bloodless2010]

I'm right there with ya.
Waste of money, and my coils last months not days.
You'll like the Bellus.
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Is there much difference between the Bellus and lets say another UD RTA such as Zephyrus (V1/V2 - I have both)? UD seem to be pumping out a lot of different RTAs, surely they cant be much different, but I'm in love with the quality of vape on the Zephyrus.

 

[bloodless2010]

Why on earth would you ever use something like the Bellus? Prebuilt coils are where it's at, my man, that and sub ohmers. To answer the question about the smoke/smoker, I am a vaper, so I only vape, and the smoke, means the vape. I would not use the term "vape" because that is far too idiocrastic ... bureaucratic?

Seriously why the deal about the RTA's? I have no ideas of any good RTA's and the vapor they produce, so please feel free to comment. Any RTA I imagine wouldn't really compare to my Herakles. And if it beats it, that is news to me. Please post it.

If I am missing out on the RTA's, I'd also like to know why. Oh, and I'd probably never use an RDTA, I won't go for leaking, first, and I won't go for coil building, well I might, but it depends on what you have to say about it. Buildable coils are a waste of time, it is a horrible experience building coils, and any full time smoker would tell you that. Prebuilt coils are as simple as "pop in" and vape. You can't get that experience from buildable coils. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on any other sub tanks. But as always if I am please comment about it below.

Any videos you know or can post about RTA's? Where's the money really at for a full time smoker/vaper? I plan on youtubing simply "RTA's" and hopefully I will find something about the Bellus or some really high vapor producing tanks. Building on an RTA isn't a pain if it's a single coil design. But all the pain in dual coils is really a lot of work. Plus remember I have the Lemo, and I've never experienced too much pain from that.

JBrentonK

Is that sarcasm? Or are you actually being serious.. My RTAs (Zephyrus V1 and V2) both have an RBA section turning it into an RTA, no leaking fyi, also has the ability of having coil heads, now before you go saying all this stuff like 'Why would anyone use x/y' I can say the exact same thing for you, why do people use prebuilt coils? Who knows what various containments from factories may be in there, you can't get the coil resistance you want, the surface area, you cant wick it how you want, you dish out more money, your arguments are really invalid and you should consider that different things are for different people, just because you wonder why people use them, doesn't mean that you should try to take a steam pile of on it

Edit; also, don't call yourself a 'smoker' if you don't smoke, it is very confusing for a lot of members, smoking is very different, it's a whole different process, smoking is combustion, vaping is vaporizing.

 

[ismokeinbinary]

Why on earth would you ever use something like the Bellus? Prebuilt coils are where it's at, my man, that and sub ohmers. To answer the question about the smoke/smoker, I am a vaper, so I only vape, and the smoke, means the vape. I would not use the term "vape" because that is far too idiocrastic ... bureaucratic?

Seriously why the deal about the RTA's? I have no ideas of any good RTA's and the vapor they produce, so please feel free to comment. Any RTA I imagine wouldn't really compare to my Herakles. And if it beats it, that is news to me. Please post it.

If I am missing out on the RTA's, I'd also like to know why. Oh, and I'd probably never use an RDTA, I won't go for leaking, first, and I won't go for coil building, well I might, but it depends on what you have to say about it. Buildable coils are a waste of time, it is a horrible experience building coils, and any full time smoker would tell you that. Prebuilt coils are as simple as "pop in" and vape. You can't get that experience from buildable coils. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on any other sub tanks. But as always if I am please comment about it below.

Any videos you know or can post about RTA's? Where's the money really at for a full time smoker/vaper? I plan on youtubing simply "RTA's" and hopefully I will find something about the Bellus or some really high vapor producing tanks. Building on an RTA isn't a pain if it's a single coil design. But all the pain in dual coils is really a lot of work. Plus remember I have the Lemo, and I've never experienced too much pain from that.

JBrentonK

All I'll say is: I bought a $5 pack of OJC and a $5 spool of wire 8 months ago and I still have enough for another 8 months. And the Aromamizer, Crius, MT, and Bellus are the current "top of the line" RTAs and they do not leak if wicked properly. Also I'd be willing to bet my Aromamizer puts out bigger clouds and more saturated flavor than your Herakles.

 

[ismokeinbinary]

Is there much difference between the Bellus and lets say another UD RTA such as Zephyrus (V1/V2 - I have both)? UD seem to be pumping out a lot of different RTAs, surely they cant be much different, but I'm in love with the quality of vape on the Zephyrus.

The Bellus is an RDTA, so the airflow comes from the sides unlike the Zephyrus which is a traditional bottom airflow tank. I personally feel that RDTAs are the future of the RTA game.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Why on earth would you ever use something like the Bellus? Prebuilt coils are where it's at, my man, that and sub ohmers. To answer the question about the smoke/smoker, I am a vaper, so I only vape, and the smoke, means the vape. I would not use the term "vape" because that is far too idiocrastic ... bureaucratic?

Seriously why the deal about the RTA's? I have no ideas of any good RTA's and the vapor they produce, so please feel free to comment. Any RTA I imagine wouldn't really compare to my Herakles. And if it beats it, that is news to me. Please post it.

If I am missing out on the RTA's, I'd also like to know why. Oh, and I'd probably never use an RDTA, I won't go for leaking, first, and I won't go for coil building, well I might, but it depends on what you have to say about it. Buildable coils are a waste of time, it is a horrible experience building coils, and any full time smoker would tell you that. Prebuilt coils are as simple as "pop in" and vape. You can't get that experience from buildable coils. Doesn't sound like I'm missing out on any other sub tanks. But as always if I am please comment about it below.

Any videos you know or can post about RTA's? Where's the money really at for a full time smoker/vaper? I plan on youtubing simply "RTA's" and hopefully I will find something about the Bellus or some really high vapor producing tanks. Building on an RTA isn't a pain if it's a single coil design. But all the pain in dual coils is really a lot of work. Plus remember I have the Lemo, and I've never experienced too much pain from that.

JBrentonK

A properly built atomizer the pinnacle of vaping.

I can build and install a better quality coil, built exactly the way I want at a fraction of the cost that lasts 20x30 times longer than a prebuilt.
My coils last 2-3 months.
I can build and install coils in the Bellus faster than you can order a prebuilt coil online with a credit card.
I can customize the build to suit the juice I'm using and get every hidden nuance of flavor, while blowing clouds that would win a competition a year or two ago.
I also have no "tether" to a company, buying disposals like cigarettes.

There isn't any advantage to prebuilt
Coils for me.
They are inferior to my coils in quality and performance, and are much more costly.

 

[bloodless2010]

The Bellus is an RDTA, so the airflow comes from the sides unlike the Zephyrus which is a traditional bottom airflow tank. I personally feel that RDTAs are the future of the RTA game.

It comes from the bottom? That's news to me.. Must be a pretty tight draw

 

[ismokeinbinary]

It comes from the bottom? That's news to me.. Must be a pretty tight draw

When people say "bottom airflow" it's referring to the deck, where the airflow outlets/holes are located below the coil. I used correct terminology.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Is there much difference between the Bellus and lets say another UD RTA such as Zephyrus (V1/V2 - I have both)? UD seem to be pumping out a lot of different RTAs, surely they cant be much different, but I'm in love with the quality of vape on the Zephyrus.

I haven't tried the zephyrus but the airflow on the Bellus is a from the side rather than below the coils.
I almost got the V2 Zephyrus but the wife got me the Bellus as an early Christmas gift.

 

[bloodless2010]

When people say "bottom airflow" it's referring to the deck, where the airflow outlets/holes are located below the coil. I used correct terminology.

Yeah I realised that after I had posted

I haven't tried the zephyrus but the airflow on the Bellus is a from the side rather than below the coils.
I almost got the V2 Zephyrus but the wife got me the Bellus as an early Christmas gift.

The Zephyrus V2 is a VERY nice tank. I bought the V1 but cancelled it because I meant to order the V2, got refunded for the V1 but they sent both out to me, which is odd because they dispatched it a few days after the money was in my bank.. Oh well I can't complain, must've been a Christmas gift to me

 

[suprtrkr]

Please yourself, of course. If its keeping you off the sticks, you're doing it right. That said, I get better flavor and cloud from RBAs than I ever managed with premade coil tanks. I do not share you're opinion of the Lemo2. If you seriously dislike it, I suspect you're building/wicking it wrong. It was my all day vape for a long time, until I found a better one, despite being a dyed-in-the-wool dual coil man; and it never leaked a drop once I learned how to wick it. Never mind that, though. If you want a tank that will blow your doors off for cloud, with flavor that'll make your eyes water, take a hard look at an Indulgence MT. And get ready to make/buy a lot of juice. A *lot* of juice.

 

[Bunnykiller]

my tank... RSST Dual .6 ohms 36 nic vape it if you can

 

[TheMike21]

I've been vaping for almost 2 months now, I bought coils for my first set up X6 with an Iclear 30s, then moved to Subohms with and Ijust2, still getting coils. Got my Kbox mini. The coils ended, no more pre built coils for me. I've got a Goblin after that and now a Bellus, I'm a very happy vaper.

Not only to avoid confusion but I have quit smoking, that's not what I do now, and a lot of us are working very hard to keep vaping and combustible tobacco separate. Please don't call it smoking

 

[JBrentonK]

Is that sarcasm? Or are you actually being serious.. My RTAs (Zephyrus V1 and V2) both have an RBA section turning it into an RTA, no leaking fyi, also has the ability of having coil heads, now before you go saying all this stuff like 'Why would anyone use x/y' I can say the exact same thing for you, why do people use prebuilt coils? Who knows what various containments from factories may be in there, you can't get the coil resistance you want, the surface area, you cant wick it how you want, you dish out more money, your arguments are really invalid and you should consider that different things are for different people, just because you wonder why people use them, doesn't mean that you should try to take a steam pile of on it

Edit; also, don't call yourself a 'smoker' if you don't smoke, it is very confusing for a lot of members, smoking is very different, it's a whole different process, smoking is combustion, vaping is vaporizing.

For your information, buildable coils suck, as everybody knows and I just realized after typing this, yesterday. The reason is that buildable coils are all kanthal, and you can NOT get a good experience from kanthal coils. Plus prebuilt coils are all tri or quad too, and you really can't get tri or quad on a dual coil RTA.

Just so that you are well aware of this, and it sinks in really good, I'm okay for moving on.

 

[JBrentonK]

All I'll say is: I bought a $5 pack of OJC and a $5 spool of wire 8 months ago and I still have enough for another 8 months. And the Aromamizer, Crius, MT, and Bellus are the current "top of the line" RTAs and they do not leak if wicked properly. Also I'd be willing to bet my Aromamizer puts out bigger clouds and more saturated flavor than your Herakles.

There is a Herakles Plus, which is ranked in the top 1 or 2 of all sub ohm tanks, and it puts out bigger clouds than any RDTA will ever produce. I don't even see how buildable coils help the quality of vape, you are just all out wrong about that assersion.

 

[JBrentonK]

Please yourself, of course. If its keeping you off the sticks, you're doing it right. That said, I get better flavor and cloud from RBAs than I ever managed with premade coil tanks. I do not share you're opinion of the Lemo2. If you seriously dislike it, I suspect you're building/wicking it wrong. It was my all day vape for a long time, until I found a better one, despite being a dyed-in-the-wool dual coil man; and it never leaked a drop once I learned how to wick it. Never mind that, though. If you want a tank that will blow your doors off for cloud, with flavor that'll make your eyes water, take a hard look at an Indulgence MT. And get ready to make/buy a lot of juice. A *lot* of juice.

I do not have the Lemo 2, just the origional Lemo. It is TERRIBLE, and no I do not think I am building it wrong.