Sucralose...Am I missing something here?

[BikerBob]

... Chlorine in ANY form is hazardous to our bodies in any amount, and has a vast amount of side effects that it can cause from blindness to vomiting, rashes, allergic reactions, and many other things. ...
>.< UGH!

I'm always amazed that anyone survives constant exposure to chemicals. I went searching online to gather more information about where Chlorine can be found, and located this strong acid , composed of HCl (a chemical made from Hydrogen and Chlorine) with "large quantities of potassium chloride (KCl) and sodium chloride (NaCl)." Lots of Chlorine in this stuff. It activates enzymes, like pepsinogen, causing proteins to unravel, and leads to Proteolysis. Food for thought.

 

[skoot]

There's no way I'm consuming sucralose in any form, eating, drinking or vaping. To each their own though.

 

[trailblazer6]

Dracconus, I have used sucralose as well as ethyl maltol, and marshmallow flavoring as a sweetener in my DIY liquids with no ill effects to my person or my gear. The flavorings tho GRAS is a unknown component in our use as they were not intended to be inhaled as the method of ingestion. Thus why I use water based flavorings only and at a 10% maximum of the total mix. Oil based flavorings on the other hand do cause problems and was discovered by this community back in 2010. Do yourself a favor and stay away from oil based flavorings since alternatives are available that are water based now.

 

[zoiDman]

There's no way I'm consuming sucralose in any form, eating, drinking or vaping. To each their own though.

Then I imagine you spend a lot of time reading Product Labels and Ingredient Lists.

Because Sucralose is used in Many Food and Beverage Products. From Baby Foods to Sports Drinks. And about Everything in-between.

 

[zoiDman]

Dracconus, ... Do yourself a favor and stay away from oil based flavorings since alternatives are available that are water based now.

This, I consider, to be Very Good Advice.

 

[zoiDman]

I'm always amazed that anyone survives constant exposure to chemicals. ...

It IS amazing that I somehow managed to survive 6 years of Competitive Swimming when I was in High School and College.

With some of the things I read about Chlorine, it seems like I should be Dead or at least a Mental Vegetable.

Well… I guess 1 out of 2 isn’t Bad.

 

[skoot]

Then I imagine you spend a lot of time reading Product Labels and Ingredient Lists.

Because Sucralose is used in Many Food and Beverage Products. From Baby Foods to Sports Drinks. And about Everything in-between.

I hardly spend any time at all reading labels, all I look for is the USDA Organic symbol.

 

[zoiDman]

I hardly spend any time at all reading labels, all I look for is the USDA Organic symbol.

I'll have to start looking for that sysmbol.

 

[Slots]

I use only sweeteners that I bought on line with my liquids .... But when I received my first "sweetener" my brain went ????
It's exactly the same as my LIQUID splenda, but much weaker. I made the comment to my hubby "why don't I just use my own".
Problem would be I would have to make an 8 ounce bottle of juice!, or dilute it way down.
If the people using splenda are using the powdered form (splenda packets), they may be asking for trouble.
To make it a "powder", there are a ton of additives in it. So even though it dissolves easily, I wouldn't think about using it.
I have been using liquid splenda in everything we bake, cook, drink, boil over in the microwave etc since 1974.

I have stood over the stove and breathed in oodles of vapor from liquid splenda cooking.
Since breathing it hasn't caused any problem in the last 39 years, well ......
I may just try my own liquid, diluted when my e-liquid supply runs out.
Can't see paying a high price for a weak version, when I have a huge supply of my own in my kitchen.
Liquid is it's purest form.
If you want to talk "evil", try Equal ... that stuff causes all kinds of health problems.
Sure hope no one is blending that stuff into their liquids !

 

[BikerBob]

I use only sweeteners that I bought on line with my liquids .... But when I received my first "sweetener" my brain went ????
It's exactly the same as my LIQUID splenda, but much weaker. I made the comment to my hubby "why don't I just use my own".
Problem would be I would have to make an 8 ounce bottle of juice!, or dilute it way down.
If the people using splenda are using the powdered form (splenda packets), they may be asking for trouble.
To make it a "powder", there are a ton of additives in it. So even though it dissolves easily, I wouldn't think about using it.
I have been using liquid splenda in everything we bake, cook, drink, boil over in the microwave etc since 1974.

I have stood over the stove and breathed in oodles of vapor from liquid splenda cooking.
Since breathing it hasn't caused any problem in the last 39 years, well ......
I may just try my own liquid, diluted when my e-liquid supply runs out.
Can't see paying a high price for a weak version, when I have a huge supply of my own in my kitchen.
Liquid is it's purest form.
If you want to talk "evil", try Equal ... that stuff causes all kinds of health problems.
Sure hope no one is blending that stuff into their liquids !

What I could find online claimed sucralose was first created in 1976, and first marketed in the late 90's (as Splenda brand). Which brand were you using in the 70's and 80's? Which brand are you currently using?

 

[Cyprus]

I personally avoid artificial sweeteners as a rule for life, hell most artificial ingredients in general. As for sucralose itself...I don't think there is enough data yet to suggest what the outcome would be of vaping it over a long period of time...but I would bet money it wouldn't be a very healthy option.

That is why I stick to an organic, vegan lifestyle & prefer to vape juice that adheres to those guidelines.

 

[samazon]

The History of Artificial Sweeteners

Annnnd if you're interested.

Edit:

TL; DR - " Each of the major artificial sweeteners that have been released have at least one problem (some more): saccharin and acesulfame both might be carcinogens, and aspartame breaks down at high temperatures and can't be used by a segment of the population at all (people with PKU). Because of this, the quest for a non-carcinogenic, thermally stable, easily produceable artificial sweetener continues."

All the references in this article are pre-2000, fyi.

 

[samazon]

Incidentally, liquid sweetener (I'm really enjoying reading about this, it's much less icky than reading about fistulas) ...

Patent US4153737 - Concentrated liquid low calorie sweetner - Google Patents

Has some interesting stuff in the patent.

Claims

1. A concentrated liquid low calorie sweetening composition comprising a mixture of propylene glycol and at least 5% by weight of a dipeptide salt selected from the group consisting of the sodium salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester and the potassium salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester.

2. The composition of claim 1 wherein the salt is incorporated in the propylene glycol in an amount sufficient to render the propylene glycol nearly saturated at refrigeration temperature.

3. The composition of claim 1 wherein the sweetener is an artificial sweetener.

4. The composition of claim 3 wherein the artificial sweetener is a saccharin.

5. The composition of claim 4 wherein the saccharin is a soluble salt of saccharin.

6. The composition of claim 4 wherein the saccharin and salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester are in the ratio of about 1:1 to about 1:10 by weight of saccharin to the salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester.

7. The composition of claim 6 wherein the saccharin and salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester are in the ratio of about 1:4 by weight of the saccharin to the salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester.

8. A method of sweetening a foodstuff which comprises adding to the foodstuff an effective amount of a concentrated liquid low calorie sweetener, said sweetener comprising a mixture of propylene glycol and at least 5% by weight of a dipeptide salt selected from the group consisting of the sodium salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester and the potassium salt of L-aspartyl-L-phenylalanine methyl ester.

9. The composition of claim 8 wherein the sweetener is an artificial sweetener.

10. The method of claim 9 wherein the artificial sweetener is saccharin.