Switching from Blu's to Ego ce4, chest hit hurts

[Kabooma]

So, I got my ce4 in this morning, along with pink spot sampler, and while I'm still very excited to graduate from the blu's, the chest hit is almost unbearable.. it's extremely harsh, made me cough a few times, almost comparable to an analog light-cig smoker taking in a giant unfiltered camel hit.. if you get my meaning. The TH compared to the chest hit just doesn't seem right. (doing the honey-tobacco right now). Tried the menthol as well, and that was just unbearable with the chest hit. Again- this was something that wasn't a factor when tokin on the blu's.

Could the PG/VG mix on pink spot be the issue? Any suggestions? I've tried different methods of inhaling from a thread I found here, but the only thing that seems to help is taking very small hits, which are unsatisfying in a way.

 

[volume control]

lower your nic content

 

[Kabooma]

yeah I was just looking at the bottles, 18mg.. crap. I ordered a ton of 18mg pg/vg 50-50 mix and flavorings.. like 60ml bottles of the stuff. Might have to get some nic-free mix to dilute it. I assumed that since I came off the analogs at half a pack a day, that 18 would be the right amount

 

[stillnotsmoking]

The eGo/CE4 combo is quite the step up from the Blus. It will vary for everyone. I smoked a PAD+ of Pall Mall Reds. I actually started on 24MG and it was too much. I had headaches and couldn't sleep at night. Now I vape 18mg in the morning and throughout the day, and drop to 12mg at night because I tend to chain vape, and the 12mg will allow me to do so without interrupting my sleep.

I would start by lowering your nic level, then if that doesn't help play around with different PG/VG ratios and flavors. Maybe it is an issue with flavoring? Have you tried more than one eliquid? Also, again probably different for everyone, but I do not tend to inhale the vapor into my lungs as I would a cigarette, rather a french exhale/nose exhale and holding the vapor in your mouth/throat without actually inhaling it, does that make sense?

 

[mkbilbo]

yeah I was just looking at the bottles, 18mg.. crap. I ordered a ton of 18mg pg/vg 50-50 mix and flavorings.. like 60ml bottles of the stuff. Might have to get some nic-free mix to dilute it. I assumed that since I came off the analogs at half a pack a day, that 18 would be the right amount

No that sounds a bit high to me. I was a 2 PAD smoker and use 18 or 24. And am cutting back to 12 now. The other thing would be how do you inhale? I had some trouble at the beginning because I was trying to inhale like a regular cig. See if this applies: http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/new-members-information/337019-inhalation-technique-ecig-vs-cigarette.html.

Another thing to consider is what's causing me to cut back on the nicotine. Vaping just tastes better. I'm prone to vaping frequently. Especially in the evenings when I get off the computer and settle down. And I've been having a devil of a time getting to sleep. Was awake until almost 3 this morning. Still woke up about the same time and got up so I'm a bit sleep deprived today.

Despite having been a fairly heavy smoker and the slower absorption of nicotine in vaping, I seem to have managed to get too much nicotine anyway! I'm good at getting things backward. It's a talent I have.

 

[Kabooma]

Thanks for the responses guys, I guess I was so worried about not getting enough nic that I over-compensated on the liquids. So far, I've only tried the honey-cured tobacco and the menthol.. and the honey is getting better, but the menthol is just way too much chest hit, I wind up coughing my brains out with anything short of a 1-second hit.

I do inhale into my lungs.. I've started exhaling thru my nose and do like the flavor profiles better that way. I watched a few youtube videos on proper vaping methods, and understand it's a bit of a mixed bag.

What surprised me most is how easy the blu's were as far as TH, chest hit, and vapor were pretty well balanced, but with the ego, I see I need to adjust a bit. I will try to lower the nicotine when I get my base delivered and then order some more non-nic base to dilute it. Until then, I think I will move to the fruity flavors in the sampler- I'm thinking that maybe the tobacco flavors are a bit too punchy at 18mg.

Do you think the fruits would be smoother in that regard?

 

[Adelwolf]

I've found that the fruits are a smoother vape than the tobacco flavors. I think, though, that once you get accustomed to not inhaling straight into your lungs, you'll find most of the coughing/chest pain pretty much vanishes. Treat it like a cigar - inhale into your mouth, using your tongue to kinda block it from going straight down, then breathe it in if you really want to. This is especially handy with top-coil clearos and the like, where the atomizer is at the top - the vapor is hotter, because it travels less distance from the vaporizing coils to your mouth.

Plus, you don't actually need to inhale straight into your lungs to get the nicotine hit - it's absorbed better through the mucous membranes in your mouth and nose.

 

[Ken_A]

Yes, if you inhale directly into your lungs, the throat hit can be unbearable. AND you loose most of the flavor. draw it into your mouth like you were using a straw to drink with. then breathe it in from there, or exhale without drawing it in.

 

[Kabooma]

Update-
I cleaned out the clearomizers, tried a fruity flavor in one and clove in the other. Both were still harsh, but much less so. This morning I went back to both and they are fantastic! I didn't think to mention that I've been coming off a chest cold the last few days and the congestion was just not working well with the vape... apparently this morning a lot of the congestion had cleared up and the chest hit is much less harsh!

I didn't think it was an issue simply because analogs didn't hit me in the chest the same way with the cold, so I just didn't think of it as a linked issue. I will still probably switch to 12mg nic in the future, but this 18mg juice isn't a show stopper at all! And for what it's worth, the analogs are less desirable already! I've had two since yesterday, and put both out at halfway, thinking the same thing both times- "I'd rather be vaping, it tastes better!"

Win!

 

[stillnotsmoking]

Ahh a chest cold, makes sense now! I had a bout of bronchitis not long ago and the only way I could vape was using a menthol eliquid!

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[jericoriver]

Try to get in the habit of only drawing it into your mouth,then inhaling . I've seen people who could not handle 12mg. go on up to 36 or 24 with no problem.

 

[mkbilbo]

Update-
I cleaned out the clearomizers, tried a fruity flavor in one and clove in the other. Both were still harsh, but much less so. This morning I went back to both and they are fantastic! I didn't think to mention that I've been coming off a chest cold the last few days and the congestion was just not working well with the vape... apparently this morning a lot of the congestion had cleared up and the chest hit is much less harsh!

I didn't think it was an issue simply because analogs didn't hit me in the chest the same way with the cold, so I just didn't think of it as a linked issue. I will still probably switch to 12mg nic in the future, but this 18mg juice isn't a show stopper at all! And for what it's worth, the analogs are less desirable already! I've had two since yesterday, and put both out at halfway, thinking the same thing both times- "I'd rather be vaping, it tastes better!"

Win!

There ya go!

Relax and let yourself enjoy the tastes and all. That actually seems, to me, to be the best "technique". The nicotine absorption is slower so you don't want to rush and it's through the membranes of the mouth and nose both of which are involved in the sense of taste. Smoking delivers the nicotine much, much faster (as little as 7 seconds I've read) but that's from drawing the smoke into the lungs. Gets the nicotine into the blood stream fast.

I got into the habit of slowing it all down. Holding a bit in the mouth, tasting the flavor, exhaling through the nose and not in a rush. That seems to deliver the nicotine I'm so (unfortunately) hooked on and is a pleasurable experience. Much more so than cigs.

I don't get a "chest hit" at all. My lungs aren't involved much at all except to, well, power the inhale and exhale (obviously). No taste buds down there. And I can't inhale the vapor like that anyway, I cough myself silly. Water and lungs, not a happy combination?

I've actually cut the nicotine content in the liquids I ordered (and arrived today). They're 1.2% (12mg). I found that the 2.4% seemed to kind of "burn" my tongue? Knock my taste buds for a loop for a while. Also noticed that I was having trouble falling asleep. I think I vape too frequently for higher nic levels? So I'm going to try a lower level, see how that works.

I do vape fairly frequently. But it just tastes so good.

My experience is that the more you learn how to do this vaping thing so you get to enjoy the flavors and, call it, "experience", the more you get that, "I'd rather be vaping" going. And the more you start to get a, "What did I ever see in these things?" when you do give in to smoking.

(Which I still sometimes do but the time between grows longer all the time. Eventually, I hope it'll hit "infinite".)

 

[Txrider]

yeah I was just looking at the bottles, 18mg.. crap. I ordered a ton of 18mg pg/vg 50-50 mix and flavorings.. like 60ml bottles of the stuff. Might have to get some nic-free mix to dilute it. I assumed that since I came off the analogs at half a pack a day, that 18 would be the right amount

18mg would have likely been enough for me coming from 2 packs a day and a 40 year habit. You might be able to go down to say 6 or so and be fine

 

[boshans]

I am having kind of the same problem. I just got my ego-t today, before this I only used Blu. There is just to much chest hit I guess you could call it. Throat hit also really. I'm using Swiss Dark from Johnson Creek, 24mg. I guess the nicotine is the reason? Blu is what, 16mg? How do I dilute the Johnson Creek to lower Nic levels? It's 100% VG, should I just go buy a 100% VG 0 Nic base from the local store, and all I do is mix the two together? Say I put 1mL of JC, and .25mL of 0mg base, would that make it 18mg total? Or is it calculated different?

I was a pack a day smoker for the psat 8 years or so btw...so I never needed more than a pack a days worth of nic.

 

[Jjshbetz11]

Who chest hit analogs??!! Ya hit vapor the same way ya hit a cig, just slower longer draws.

 

[boshans]

I don't chest hit analogs, smoke them the same way as ecigs, inhale to mouth first. Never understood how people could do that with analogs. Still getting to much chest/throat hit though with my new ego.

 

[Jjshbetz11]

Well you will. Your accustomed to analogs, takes a bit to get used to vaping. Every smoker I let hit my pv says the same as you are saying.

 

[Jjshbetz11]

It goes away, then you spend your money on different juices an pv's trying to find that throat/chest hit again

 

[Iffy]

Welcome to da world of higher vaping efficiency!

As long as you're getting good flavor without hot hits, try lowering your nic.

Good luck!

 

[mkbilbo]

I am having kind of the same problem. I just got my ego-t today, before this I only used Blu. There is just to much chest hit I guess you could call it. Throat hit also really. I'm using Swiss Dark from Johnson Creek, 24mg. I guess the nicotine is the reason? Blu is what, 16mg? How do I dilute the Johnson Creek to lower Nic levels? It's 100% VG, should I just go buy a 100% VG 0 Nic base from the local store, and all I do is mix the two together? Say I put 1mL of JC, and .25mL of 0mg base, would that make it 18mg total? Or is it calculated different?

I was a pack a day smoker for the psat 8 years or so btw...so I never needed more than a pack a days worth of nic.

Blu's cartos for their kits are actually startlingly low. From their website: "High: Approximately 13-16mg". High eh? Hm.

Anyway. Yeah, 24mg is going to have a kick. I kinda like it but not all the time. For one, it'll nuke my taste buds into "vaper's tongue" pretty quick. Stun them or something.

It's 100% VG, should I just go buy a 100% VG 0 Nic base from the local store, and all I do is mix the two together?

Yeah that should work with the nic level but you'd be diluting the flavor as well. You might want to try getting a 0.0% nic bottle of Swiss Dark to mix with your 2.4%. That way you could dilute the nic without diluting the flavor.