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This chip is the real deal. Polarity protection, true step-down circuitry, presets, real-time voltage and wattage, a better screen . . .
It makes the DNA30 look tired, and I can't wait to get mine in a box.
It makes the DNA30 look tired, and I can't wait to get mine in a box.
First 2 are significant, 3rd one is questionable as it's partly because of the control scheme. Last 2 are invalid.
It's a more complicated board than a DNA30, costs more, and is larger. So it is what it is. The closing judgment is not true, and demand for DNAs remains extremely high.
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Size difference is negligible considering the ribbon and screen set up on the dna, and price difference is also negligible considering the SX350 comes with the USB charging board. It also cuts down on work because all of the wires are already soldered.
But most importantly, the SX350 chip is widely available. I haven't seen a dna 30 available anywhere in the last month except eBay, and the cost there is NOT less than an SX350.
Ugh. There is nothing about the control scheme that makes using presets a "questionable" advantage over the DNA chips which don't have presets. It's a decided advantage.
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DNA30 is and has been for a month available at the same place I bought mine. It sells for 50.00 US. Throw in a usb charging board (either the 7.50 Evolv one or a cheap 2 dollar from China) and depending on your build it either will or won't make a significant difference as far as price goes.
As far as controls, it depends entirely on your preference. For me, Presets are a definite plus, and tilt switch instead of + - buttons is a definite minus. More or less a wash, certainly not an advantage for sx350.
What it comes down to is, is it worth 20 bucks to you for polarity protection and true step down circuitry. (screen and controls are subjective and some people prefer DNA some sx350) For me, I've never in 40 years inserted a battery backwards, and only plan on ever removing them to change a dead cell. I also generally go with a bit higher ohm builds at 4+ volts. Given all that, and the fact that I hate the tilt switch, and prefer the look of the slender screen, the dna30 was the right choice for me.
For a lot of people sx350 is clearly a better choice, but that doesn't mean it has made the DNA30 obsolete. They are 2 different options for 2 different sets of preferences/needs.
I didn't mean to imply that the DNA30 is obsolete, just that there is a chip that does everything it does, and more. It is still in very high demand. In fact, I just purchased a DNA30 MOD today. What I do mean to suggest, however, is that if Evolv means to remain relevant in the vaping world, it has to do more than make their next chip a simple wattage upgrade like the DNA20 --> DNA30.
And if the tilt controls are a no-go for some people, it appears there are plans to open the SX350 up for the use buttons via software upgrade (another decided advantage for the SX350 chip). There are, apparently, spots on the board ready to go just for this purpose.
There have been chinese boards ostensibly with the same or greater feature set as the DNA boards for a while now, fairly long before the SX boards and before the DNA 30. The DNA is still the gold standard. Evolv as a company is a significant part of that equation.
I think more important than adding features in the future, Evolv needs to do a much better job of anticipating demand. A lot of the excitement for the sx350 came because people were scrambling to find a replacement for the DNA30 which wasn't available. I want to be fair since Evolv obviously doesn't have the same resources as a large Chinese manufacturer, but given the success and demand they had with the dna12 and 20 as well as the kicks, I think they should have been much more aggressive in stocking boards.
In regards to the future plans for +- switches on the 350, if they add that function, and a way to change the yihi logo, I would/will most likely use those for my higher end builds, and the DNA30s for less expensive ones.
China just dropped the DNA30 yesterday at $56 so unless a person is unaware of China's DNA it would be hard pressed for someone to now build a dna30.
Reports of the DNA20 are saying it performs and is a dna20 true clone, so suspecting the 30 is no different whoa..
@$50 for just a board @$56 you get a full on mod with battery. Im not happy about the cloning but the price is right.
They are going to offer the board for modders @$20-25
So China DNA30>Sx350
$56.00 HANA MODZ Pack DNA 30 Style Mod - built-in 2*600mAh Li-Po / 7W-30W at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Reports of the DNA20 are saying it performs and is a dna20 true clone, so suspecting the 30 is no different whoa..
@$50 for just a board @$56 you get a full on mod with battery. Im not happy about the cloning but the price is right.
They are going to offer the board for modders @$20-25
So China DNA30>Sx350
$56.00 HANA MODZ Pack DNA 30 Style Mod - built-in 2*600mAh Li-Po / 7W-30W at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping
Cloning is a tough issue for me. I have some cloned items, and some others I refuse to buy. In the case of a direct DNA30 clone, I can't justify buying the clones, even at half price of the originals. I'm a selfish person, so it's for selfish reasons. Evolv makes me crazy some times with their inability to keep inventory, but there's no denying they are innovators, and have created products that have been a great improvement in my vaping experience.
Every copycat board that is purchased takes money out of the hands of people who bring us the new exciting items we enjoy, and puts it in the hands of those who create/innovate nothing, and just sit back and wait for something new to copy.
They sit back and just make a copy because there is a MASSIVE market for it. People aren't rushing in droves to buy a DNA30 clone because it's cheaper (though that is certainly part of it for many people), but because finding MODs with genuine DNA30 chips in them are nigh impossible and have been since they released.
If Evolv could fill the demand, prices would be lower AND clones wouldn't exist. It's the same as with the clones of mech MODs and atties.
It's definitely a personal choice, and I don't fault people for either choosing to save some bucks, or who don't make their own mods, so it's the only option they have.
I think what you're saying is partially right. The demand for the clones are absolutely because of Evolvs failure to pump out chips to keep up with demand. However to suggest that the reason they were cloned is because the demand wasn't filled is just not knowing how some of these companies operate.
Whether it be ipads, purses, jeans, circuit boards, atomizers, or pretty much any other consumer product you can think of, there are numerous companies whose entire business model is to wait for new items to hit the market>copy them>sell them at a fraction of the price of the original. I could mention 20 web sights that sell these items exclusively right now but I'm sure you know of at least a few of them.
AFAIK Evolv programs the boards themselves so it's not just a question of asking some Chinese factory to ramp up production.
My argument is that these companies exist because there is a market for it. They aren't looking to copy a design for the sake of copying a design, but because there are tons of people who want said design (whatever it may be) and either can't get an original, or can't afford one. These clone companies are simply responding to market demand.
There's always a market for illegitimate goods that are cheaper, that doesn't make it right to participate in that market. Though I admit my hands are not clean when it comes to clone atties and mech mods.
Evolv releases the sx-351 35 bucks..
China goes into an uproar.
I am really liking the sx-350 26650 50w tube mod preview, design, it looks right' and probably wont break the bank..
Evolv is not releasing the sx351 or are they lol....
China goes into an uproar.
I am really liking the sx-350 26650 50w tube mod preview, design, it looks right' and probably wont break the bank..
Evolv is not releasing the sx351 or are they lol....
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