Taste inconsistancy issues...

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verruckt

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I'm having a little bit of an issue regarding the flavor of my vaping and I need help figuring out why and how I can solve the issue. Basically, sometimes I take a hit and it's great, I love the flavor, it's completely satisfying. But then the next hit will be harsh and disgusting. With an aftertaste that reminds me of the nicotine gum I once tried.

I have a couple of thoughts. Since it taste like nic gum, perhaps I just don't like the 26mg liquid that I have and need to cut it down. (Waiting on a new order of juices to come in for cutting.) But it goes back and forth, so perhaps it's with the way I am hitting it that is causing the bad taste? Perhaps the atty is drying and not wicking properly. But I can get the flavor after a fresh top off. And sometimes a cart that I've used all day starts to taste good.

Also, this doesn't happen with one particular flavor or atty or cart, I've switched things around a lot.

Please, any thoughts that could help, cause this taste is almost putting me off the vapor. I dread what my next hit will taste like.
 

CaptJay

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Sounds like your atty bridge is getting dry - What model are you using?
Do you use carts or drip? I found dripping just improved everything for me - it seemed to keep the bridge alot more moist for longer (theres a little learning curve but theres a guide to dripping in the ECF Library thread if you're interested).
Sometimes I found the cart filler jsut wasn't making good contact with the bridge, so even though it was full, it wasn't wicking properly. That's why I eventaully dumped it :)
Maybe with some more info we can make some more educated guesses as to what's causing your issues.
 

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I agree with CaptJay that we need a bit more info..but it does sound like the atty is getting kind of dry and, if you're using the polyfill in the carts, make sure there's not a stray 'thread' hitting the atty. When one of those burns, it IS a nasty taste and it does feel like it's 'burning' the throat.
 

Hellen A. Handbasket

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yup... too dry.

Model? Prefilled carts only? Do you have refill liquid?

I even put drops on my atty bridge in my 801/302 attys when I top off. If you are using a 510, make sure to use liquid on the atty bridge each time you fill it up.

Refilling is a learning curve. You need to get it filled up at the very first change in flavor or drop in vapor! Makes a world of difference!
 

verruckt

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I use carts. I've tried the PTB mod a few days back to see if this would help the situation but I think it actually got worse. I've tried dripping a few drops directly on the atty and even with that, sometimes it's good and sometimes not.

And it's not a burning taste. It's got a tingly feeling, just like nic gum. That's the only way I can explain it.

What other information can I give you?
 

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As some have said before me it sounds like a dry atty.

But, I'll throw this out there just in case. Sometimes liquid separates in the bottle. You'll take one hit and get great flavor and with the next hit it's completely gone. You *might be* getting one hit flavor and the next nearly all nic. It's a bit of a long shot, and you'll know for sure when you get more flavors to try but give the bottle a good shake. I've found that some liquids have more of a tendency to separate.
 

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i too am getting something similar to this. but for me i think its just this particular juice. i purchased a menthol juice that is vg. it was not as good as what i had in my pre filled cartomizer from the factory... lucky for me i have the exact juice coming, that had come prefilled. i have an e9 mini cig from e-cig.com i absolutely love their salem juice.

i myself dont know for sure why my e smoke does this same phenom, but i think it might have more to do with the actual juice than the atomizer/e cig itself. try different juices. i know for me the 24 mg is not enough i have to step up to the 36 pg salem juice. but thats what works for me
 

Hellen A. Handbasket

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I use carts. I've tried the PTB mod a few days back to see if this would help the situation but I think it actually got worse. I've tried dripping a few drops directly on the atty and even with that, sometimes it's good and sometimes not.

And it's not a burning taste. It's got a tingly feeling, just like nic gum. That's the only way I can explain it.

What other information can I give you?
Ok... now I think I know. Could be the nicotine... or it could be like my friend's issue. I suspect allergy.

I have a friend that gets an uncomfortable tingle and sometimes even a burning in her mouth. It took quite a while to find what was the cause.

She needed to check out both PG and VG first (it wasn't either) and then it was the chemicals used for flavoring. Bingo!

She can't use any liquid from China, and she can't use anything flavored with LorAnn's or Capellas. She's tried almost everyone's liquid that is made in the USA and can't use those either and finally found one liquid that doesn't give her the reaction. It is made in India and sold by VaporStation.

I suggest you get a small amount of PG (at a farm supply or through a pharmacy or even someone near by, perhaps you can try a social group on ECF to find some vapers in your area?) and try vaping that alone in a fresh new atomizer. If you still have the problem it is PG.

Buy some VG and vape it (thin with a few drops of distilled water) in a new atomizer. No issue? Then perhaps you'll need VG based juices. If you have a problem, then you know to avoid any VG in liquid (and will have to ask vendors if there is any in their liquid, as many add it for additional vapor production).

Next try lower nicotine in your flavored liquid (cut it with the PG). If it stops, it is the nicotine. Go for a lower level in your juice.

If you still have problems... try switching to some of the liquid from VaporStation (sells samples). The chemical allergy will be tricky for you. Trying to identify which chemical it is will be tough.
 

verruckt

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I think you all might be right, I think I might have dry atty problems. I think it because I've watched some bad videos. The video's I watched about how to refill your carts and the video I watch (originally) about the PTB mod both said to have the filler recessed slightly into the cart. I just watched to other videos that said to make it flush. This could be the cause of the problem. Perhaps sometimes my atty is wicking well, and others it is not. Causing inconsistancy in flavor. So, I'm about to head out to lunch soon, I will try fitting carts with new tea bags that are flush to the top of the cart. (and I'll try the shredding method I just found too.)

I'll let you know my findings when I get back.
 

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It could be dryness or it could just be the nature of the beast. I have seen a lot of vapers have this problem and I have had it myself. Juice is just never the same from day to day or hour to hour. I have no idea why. It could be that our taste buds are healing and changing from not smoking, so things taste different. It could be that we can taste the nicotine and different levels in our bodies make us more or less sensitive to the taste. It could be something completely different that no one has thought of yet.

OK - this has been no help whatsoever other than to let you know you are not alone. The only advice I have (other than to make sure you aren't running dry) is to switch to a very different flavor - from a tobacco to a menthol to a fruit to a clove, etc. with such drastic changes in flavor, the subtler flavor from nic perception (or whatever) won't be as drastic.

~A
 

verruckt

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Okay, my findings from changing the length of the PTB filler. At first, I still got that bad taste. Then I let it sit for a minute, since I've read it takes a minute or two to wick sometimes, then hit again, and there was that good taste I've been missing all day.

I got a good round or two of hits that were good until it started going south again. The filler still looks pretty soaked. I still get a good amount of vapor, but it leaves that tasty nicotine taste in my mouth. Perhaps I'll just have to wait until later this week when I can get some 0mg to cut this juice down with.
 

verruckt

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In case someone comes across this thread with a similar issue, I found my problem. It turns out that the atty was burned out. I forgot that a few days earlier I had the unit assembled in my pocket, and while I was crouched down the button was being pressed. Eventually it got hot and burned me. I didn't think it was too bad, cause it still hit afterwords. But then I realized this was happened about the same time I was having trouble. I've switched to my backup atty and have not had any other issues since.

Thanks for everyone's input on the matter. This forum is full of very helpful people.
 
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