Dawn at DIYFLAVORSHACK has EXCELLENT RY4. She enclosed some as a free gift with my order for Clove, which is AWESOME. I ended up vaping the RY4 without adding it to the Clove. Her MarblyB is good too. If you are looking for a Clove e-liquid that is very smooth and tastes like Djarums, ask her to make the Clove with MarblyB VG and add some honey to give it that slightly sweet taste. This has become my all day vape since getting it. Geoff's pepermint is AWESOME if you like a strong pepermint flavor.