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William Hucke

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I did a lot of looking up on ipv4 and found that it takes some testing to find the right temp to vape at for your self for flavor or clouds

I had found a juice that has good flavor but on the inhale and exhale its horid and reminds me of smoking other things so ill try that juice when I get a temp control setup going and see how it does
 

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Are temp control devices worth it? Do they Live up to the hype?

Are you Asking if a TC device is Worth it for Me?

Or are you asking do I Think a TC Device would be Worth it for You?

Because if it is the 2nd, Tell me a Little of the Expectations you have for a TC Device? And how Much Money you would be willing to Spend in an Attempt to Achieve those Expectations?
 
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Are temp control devices worth it? Do they Live up to the hype?

This is a difficult question to answer as it's stated.
Is it worth it to me? Yes. Is it worth it to you? I have no idea as I don't know how you vape and what you expect from the device.

Do they live up to the hype? In general I'd have to say yes. More and more companies are getting in on TC, just as they did with VW when it first came out. Temperature control is becoming more mainstream and will continue to do so until it becomes fairly standard, much like variable wattage.
 
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Hell yes, there is no way back for me as I can tune the flavour just so, but get a decent one the real DNA40 would be my recommendation as the others don't have as good pre-heat (gives you an almost instant vape, bet never over powers like devices with profiles). Some of the clones are OK, I have a Kingxin flask which is good, but I am about to replace the board worth a real DNA40 as the delay and slow heat up really notices. I have also been able to switch to all steel tanks, vape then dry 3 or 4 times a day with no nasties.
 
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I have 3 dna 40's and so far the sx mini 350j has been the easiest to use,and it's upgradeable via internet.

+1 on the SXmini M Class. I too have several DNA 40s as well and found the Sxmini was the easiest for me to learn how to TC vape.

IMO, when moving over to TC, I felt like a beginner again when I started to build coils and choosing the proper atty for my TC devices. Also what I had to relearn to do was vape differently than what I was use to. On kanthal I was a 1-2 second vapor, gave crazy clouds, flavor and a nice damp, warm vape. With Ni200 TC I found that I have to wait until the coils get up to temp and then inhale for much longer in order to get the same result. At first all I could get at best is a plume of vapor with a very dry-airy vape with no flavor at all.
 

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+1 on the SXmini M Class. I too have several DNA 40s as well and found the Sxmini was the easiest for me to learn how to TC vape.

You should try the SnowWolf. It makes the SX Mini look absolutely complicated.

You screw on the atomizer and the mod asks "New Atomizer?"
You press the + button for yes.
The mod then does a detection test on the atomizer and sets itself in either temperature mode or wattage mode depending on which type of wire it detects.

You set both temperature and wattage with the + and - buttons. You switch from one to the other by pressing both buttons at once.

And that's it. There's nothing else to it. It doesn't have menus at all. No locking this or that. Just install your atty, press + when prompted, set your watts and temp, and you're ready to vape. Everything else is done for you.
 

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You should try the SnowWolf. It makes the SX Mini look absolutely complicated.

You screw on the atomizer and the mod asks "New Atomizer?"
You press the + button for yes.
The mod then does a detection test on the atomizer and sets itself in either temperature mode or wattage mode depending on which type of wire it detects.

You set both temperature and wattage with the + and - buttons. You switch from one to the other by pressing both buttons at once.

And that's it. There's nothing else to it. It doesn't have menus at all. No locking this or that. Just install your atty, press + when prompted, set your watts and temp, and you're ready to vape. Everything else is done for you.

It wasn't really the devices and their settings that gave me trouble, it was more proper vaping expectations. Although I will admit that I felt that the Sxmini and especially the DNA40s needed more power, to give a proper vape when running in TC mode. Finally got it sorted out but what I was getting at is TC vaping is much different at first than non TC vaping.

LOL, I actually have been thinking about the SnowWolf. Where and what did you pay. I see it for $129 on VapeNW, but it's "pre-order" for some reason I thought they were already available?!?
 

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They're available all over.

I got mine from ElementVape. Only cost $110.

And as for TC being different, that is also a lot easier on the SnowWolf. You don't have to worry about joules, it's all almost exactly like non-TC. You set your desired maximum watts and the temperature. When it's in TC mode it initially fires at your wattage setting (up to 70W in TC mode) and then reduces the wattage once it hits the temperature setting. It is constantly measuring the resistance and adjusting the wattage to maintain the temperature you set. No rattlesnake on/off of the power, just a steady temperature controlled vape.

So really all you have to do is figure out what temperature you like it at. The mod takes care of the rest.
 
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I got mine from ElementVape. Only cost $110.

Thanks for turning me onto ElementVape, I'm ordering the SnowWolf and a few other things :blink: right now. Prices are pretty good for the most part. I like how they label the clones clearly and include the maker.

Thanks Completely Average. Will let you know how the SnowWolf works out for me.
 

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So, how does it actually work?

Does it simply monitor the temp of the wire and then fluctuate the amount of power it's putting to the wire in an attempt to keep it a set temperature or is it more involved than that?

The TC Mod Measures the Change in the Resistance of the Coil.

When the Coil gets Hot, its resistance Increases. So if a Mod knows what the Resistance of a wire is at Room Temperature, and what the Resistance is at say 500F, it can Interpolate (theoretically) what the Resistance of the coil should be at Any Temperature from Room Temperature to 500F

But all this is Based on a Wire where the Resistance Changes Significantly from Room Temperature to say 500f. Kanthal and NiChrome does have Much of a Resistance Change. But Nickel (Ni200) and Titanium does.

So a TC Mod Isn't Monitoring the Temperature of the Wire. It is Monitoring the Resistance Change in the Wire when the Wire Gets Hotter. And then Limits the Watts the Wire Receives to Maintain a Max Resistance (calculated Temperature).
 
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