Texas is a foreign country...

[Jim Davis]

I haven't attempted to multi quote yet so I'll do it this way, 'cause I don't want to mess it up.

"well, i have about 20 various atomizers sitting around from different manufacturers."

It would be nice sometime to make a chart of all thread sizes and types for the different brands. I think there could be a market in adapters to fit different attys with different batteries.

" I have repaired a few (its a pita). what i am working on now is modifying the original atomizer with two small compression fittings, that way you can just plug in a new coil and wick."

That's the way to go, I think. Plug in coils. The bodies will last for years if they're not physically abused.

if you wish to experiment, the coil is just thin nichrome wire.

I'm all set on the nichrome issue. In the RN4081 attys, the nichrome is .004" dia. Approximately 1 1/2" total length. Should be about 3.5 ohms.

"The wick is kevlar or silica glass depending on the manufacturer. cheap source for kevlar is any bass pro shop, they sell the natural undyed thread for a few bucks for 50 yards"

Great! Thanks, that answers another one of my questions.

"if the ban goes into effect, the best bet would be to manufacture all of the components, add a removable micro fan to it, and call it a toy fog machine... like the wizard stick, but without the gaudy plastic, and with a vaporizer running at lower heat."

I'm really hoping that the ban won't cover hardware. Keep yer fingers crossed, and hold your pee pee until this is announced. We could be in for a rough ride.

 

[Jim Davis]

I know absolutely nothing about shipping and customs. Nothing. I did find out that a "broker" is simply someone who took the test for $210 (I think it was). Anyone can be one, it's pretty silly. And a "brokerage" is a company that has at least one "broker" on the payroll.

In my younger days as a pudgy cute kid, I drove truck from the US to Canada. All loads went to an impound yard, and I had to get the paperwork from the broker. I think the brokers job is just to file all the load information with Customs. Once I got my papers from the broker, my truck was released into the country. (sure wish I was hauling e-cigs back then.)

 

[V-V]

More info than anyone needs I'm sure:

What is a Customs broker?
Customs brokers are private individuals, partnerships, associations or corporations licensed, regulated and empowered by U.S. Customs and Border Protection (CBP) to assist importers and exporters in meeting Federal requirements governing imports and exports. Brokers submit necessary information and appropriate payments to CBP on behalf of their clients and charge them a fee for this service.
Brokers must have expertise in the entry procedures, admissibility requirements, classification, valuation, and the rates of duty and applicable taxes and fees for imported merchandise.

There are approximately 11,000 active licensed Customs brokers in the United States.

What about Customs brokerages?
Corporations, partnerships and associations must have a broker license to transact Customs business. Each of these businesses must have at least one individually licensed officer, partner or associate to qualify the company's license. Failure to have a qualifying officer or member (of a partnership) for more than 120 days will result in the revocation of the broker license.

Who is eligible to become qualified as a Customs broker?
To be eligible, you must:

be a United States citizen at least 21 years old.
not be a current Federal Government employee.
possess good moral character.
Assuming I am eligible, how do I become a Customs broker?

First, you must pass the Customs Broker License Examination.
Second, you must submit a broker license application with appropriate fees.
Third, your application must be approved by CBP.
1. The Customs Broker License Examination
Q: What is the Customs Broker License Examination? A: The Customs Broker License Examination is an open book/open test with 80 multiple-choice questions based on designated editions of:
The Harmonized Tariff Schedule of the United States (HTSUS)
Title 19, Code of Federal Regulations
Specified Customs Directives
Customs and Trade Automated Interface Requirements document (CATAIR)

$200 at least 30 days in advance of taking the OPEN BOOK test.

Sorry, this just seems like a huge joke.

 

[trintek]

brokers basically handle the classification and paperwork for your shipment, they take care of verifying and entering any missing ht/hts codes, making sure correct duties are paid, and making sure the items being imported aren't against the law. to put it in perspective, if i order kits, batteries, atomizers, etc, and have a broker handle it, a good one should be able to break up the shipment and still get anything not banned over to me. a really good one should be able to reclassify it and get all of it to me of course they would probably be brought up on charges at that point.

there may be a market for the thread adapters, but if we end up with a ban... the market will probably be for a universal style adapter (one of the reasons i have so many diff atomizers sitting around). i have a working universal, but it loses connection every now and then, i need to get ahold of some better quality thin stainless steel instead of the low quality spring steel i had sitting around.

i am hoping the ban doesn't go into effect as well.. not much to do until we see if tuesday is just a really bad joke or an actual fda move. i figure if there is a ban, i will ramp up work on my nic free juice that actually takes care of nic cravings, and start work on a larger portion of the diy stuff.. the main thing at this point, unfortunately, is waiting.

my plans right now if a ban goes into effect are for a full pv... erm... toy fog machine... that is built here in texas if i can find a manufacturer. 0-nic juices that are "scented", not flavored... and a dietary supplement that can be added to the juice to take care of nic cravings and provide throat hit.

 

[V-V]

How are you going to manufacture the "supplement"? Not asking for details here, just curious as to your thinking.

 

[trintek]

actually, i have no problem providing the basic details...

over the counter vitamins in liquid form. mainly b3 (niacin), nicotinamide, and some buffers to protect liver and kidney function.. still working on the rest of the ingredients, but it seems that the niacin and nicotinamide provide a decent replacement for nicotine when vaping. the buffers are recommended when taking b3 in oral doses, so have included them in the mix. still working on more of a throat hit without the nasty taste that some of the 0-nic throat hit recipes leave behind.. i may go the citric acid route but want to try some other stuff first... i wan't planning on actually having this stuff ready before 2010, but if a ban happens, will put more time into it.. already moved up the schedule a bit and tested my existing one with a few volunteers.

i figure if it all goes as planned, will have a manufacturer of supplements mix it up when i get the proportions right and package it for sale. in the end i will have to figure out exactly how much to add to a set amount of pg to end up with something that provides all the effects similar to the original set nic strength fluids. i doubt i will get anything that will provide a similar level to 36 or higher mg, but i am hoping i can get it up to a level where it resembles 24mg or lower. right now the consensus is that it resembles 6mg.

 

[taz3cat]

I took one a part and they had not put some shrink wrap on one of my pass thrughs wire. I went over to my son's and twisted his arm to fix it. He did a good job for some that does not know anything about e-cigs. Need more wire and shrink wrap. I think I will have him look at the att's next.

 

[taz3cat]

This tobacco absolute should have some nic in it. It Nicotiana rustica is one of the strongest tobacco plants for nic. I am still researching it.

TOBACCO ABSOLUTE
Nicotiana rustica

 

[gep]

I liked Alabama actually. Prices were reasonable, I made great money, the people were cool. I much prefer Texas though, if only I had broadband here

Well, here in the north part of AL it is very pretty, lots of hills.....just isn't home.

 

[V-V]

actually, i have no problem providing the basic details...

over the counter vitamins in liquid form. mainly b3 (niacin), nicotinamide, and some buffers to protect liver and kidney function.. still working on the rest of the ingredients, but it seems that the niacin and nicotinamide provide a decent replacement for nicotine when vaping. the buffers are recommended when taking b3 in oral doses, so have included them in the mix. still working on more of a throat hit without the nasty taste that some of the 0-nic throat hit recipes leave behind.. i may go the citric acid route but want to try some other stuff first... i wan't planning on actually having this stuff ready before 2010, but if a ban happens, will put more time into it.. already moved up the schedule a bit and tested my existing one with a few volunteers.

i figure if it all goes as planned, will have a manufacturer of supplements mix it up when i get the proportions right and package it for sale. in the end i will have to figure out exactly how much to add to a set amount of pg to end up with something that provides all the effects similar to the original set nic strength fluids. i doubt i will get anything that will provide a similar level to 36 or higher mg, but i am hoping i can get it up to a level where it resembles 24mg or lower. right now the consensus is that it resembles 6mg.

So, I assume vitamins if vaped still fall outside of the FDA's clutches? What am I talking about, they're stopping shipment of things that aren't currently banned, so their clutches have few bounds really.

 

[trintek]

heh everything that has the potential of causing harm falls under somebodies clutches... at the moment though, i figure the vitamin route has some merit as many of the liquigel caps have propylene glycol in them. quite frankly, until it is regulated it is a buyer be-aware market.

i was having a discussion with one of my friends in terlingua, he is in his 80's. his suggestion is that we should have a darwin clause in all laws just to stop people from filing lawsuits over things like dumping hot coffee in their lap, sniffing glue, or tying a bag of helium over there heads. i agreed and took it one step further, i suggested we need to patent a kevlar inflateable suit with a self contained breathing apparatus and full helmet, then lobby the government to make it mandatory for anyone under 18 to wear it. that should get rid of the "think of the children" argument while still allowing parents to not take any responsibility for their children's actions or safety.