~The Billet BoX~

[Mrephunk]

I have a question about battery usage times. I am wondering do you get more or less batt time out of LR cartos?

 

[Kable]

I have a question about battery usage times. I am wondering do you get more or less batt time out of LR cartos?

You'll probably get less, because the current drain is going to be higher, even if you've adjusted your volts to get the same power (watts).

ETA: E(volts)/R(ohms) = I(amps)

 

[retird]

3.5 volts and a 1.5 ohm carto will draw 2.3 amps

4.93 volts and a 3.0 ohm carto will draw 1.64 amps.

Both deliver 8.1 watts of power to the carto coil (heat).

The efficiency rating of the buck circuit also effects battery time between charges.

 

[Absintheur]

I am running a 2.5 at 4.2 volts...it is a kick in the throat with 50/50 juice.

 

[Rise]

Oh man I get it now since it is vv you're better off going higher ohms because you will get the same experience with less drain on the battery. Why this didn't compute in my brain beforehand I do not know, thanks again.

 

[bornagainst]

Bingo.

Took me a while to wrap my head around it, but it makes sense, eh?

 

[finagle69]

Theoretically, you should be able to throw in a 1.7 Ohm resurrector, swing the dial to 5.5 volts and achieve 17.8 Watts. But I'm sure there's an amp limit in the circuitry. Can DD shed some light on that?

That said, not many folks in their right mind would vape a carto north of 10 Watts. LOL.

 

[SilentEcho13]

Theoretically, you should be able to throw in a 1.7 Ohm resurrector, swing the dial to 5.5 volts and achieve 17.8 Watts. But I'm sure there's an amp limit in the circuitry. Can DD shed some light on that?

That said, not many folks in their right mind would vape a carto north of 10 Watts. LOL.

I think the amp limit is 3a, possibly 3.5a.

 

[Doug Dino]

Theoretically, you should be able to throw in a 1.7 Ohm resurrector, swing the dial to 5.5 volts and achieve 17.8 Watts. But I'm sure there's an amp limit in the circuitry. Can DD shed some light on that?

That said, not many folks in their right mind would vape a carto north of 10 Watts. LOL.

yup, bout 3 amps, but that said it will not shut off but rather drop off. the bbs board was really designed for 3 ohms, less will work to a point but it's a waste of the native voltage. Those of you that find you never go over 4.85v could even try using some 3volt rcr1234a cells too (they generally cost less). The circuit will shut off if you over work it though, but that is to do with the chips temperature....

 

[Doug Dino]

I have a question about battery usage times. I am wondering do you get more or less batt time out of LR cartos?

less. not huge less...but less.

 

[finagle69]

yup, bout 3 amps, but that said it will not shut off but rather drop off. the bbs board was really designed for 3 ohms, less will work to a point but it's a waste of the native voltage. Those of you that find you never go over 4.85v could even try using some 3volt rcr1234a cells too (they generally cost less). The circuit will shut off if you over work it though, but that is to do with the chips temperature....

Great info. Thanks a bunch! That's a very good amp limit for carto-tanks. The only time that would be a problem is with low-ohm rebuildables. I only say "problem" due to a lot of rebuildable folks liking to run aroun 1 Ohm and high wattage.

 

[SilentEcho13]

Doug!


So what's the status? When can I finally get one?

 

[Doug Dino]

And a contest for a Billet Box? You are a brave man Sir...

your collection is making me super jealous, i love sharp things!!!

 

[Doug Dino]

I punch them myself. I get one to three weeks on a carto. Some boges last longer then others.

seconded, not all boges are created equal.. every once and a while i'll get that magic one that cranks out great mega vapor and last forever, then some times i'll fill one up and then throw it away 5 min later.... the bummer of cartos, but still... convenient.

 

[klee6150]

Looking for a carto punch.

Any suggestions for one that does not distort the shape of the carto?

Karen

 

[finagle69]

Looking for a carto punch.

Any suggestions for one that does not distort the shape of the carto?

Karen

I just bought a few of these to keep handy.

Quick-Tap 1/4"-5/16"-3/8" O.D.: Amazon.com: Industrial & Scientific

PBusardo and some other vids on Youtube show this thing doing a great job of keeping the carto in shape.

 

[AnilomNor]

Hi Doug
My birthday is coming up soon and I was wondering if I could just at least preorder one.

 

[SilentEcho13]

I bought this from COV at vapefest.

I don't have a BB yet, but I'm gathering everything I'll need once/if I can get one:

http://www.cloudsofvapor.com/store/...nless-steel-carto-punch-v2.html?keyword=punch

 

[Doug Dino]

DD: What did you use to darken the BilletBox logo engraved into the inside of the BB? I got mine today and mines discolored around the logo. It looks like it was not completely cleaned up. What can I use to clean it?

99.875% epoxy tinted black. Occasionally there will be a little pinhole in the epoxy filler and i'll fill that with a little black acrylic, that's probably what your seeing, so just a little water on a q-tip should get it.

 

[Absintheur]

I like this saddle valve for punching C-style Self-Piercing Saddle Valve SV-6, 1/4", SV-6-QC - SV-6-QC - Amazon.com doesn't require the allen wrench and the support is tight on the carto prevent deformation.

Included in the pic is another kind of punch for DD...this was my Great-Grandfather's Remington Harness Jack, tang stamp places date of manufacture between 1923 and 1934. Very likely the punch was used to put caps in dynamite, my family has a long history of coal mining.