~The Billet BoX~

[Vapian]

Ok so I was bored today and was thinking up a way anyone could make a rba carto at home... Here is what I came up with, it will cost you 8 bucks if you don't have everything:...

Was thinking about doing something similar to this come the weekend ... oh, well. Don't have to think so much about it now.

From what I can see, this should work as-is in a regular tank but is still going to require some new path to ground for the base for the Billet Box (since the upper tube won't be completing the circuit from the brass ring) ... yes?

Not sure exactly how that's been done in the past, but I'm thinking a small piece of foam about 4-to-5 mm thick, cut to fit in the gap between based of the device and the back wall of the tank compartment (and underneath the tank itself), with some copper tape wrapped around it should do the trick. . . .

 

[Vapian]

I think he needs bacon...everything is better with bacon!

All that needs is a big ol' hunk of bread, a head of lettuce, couple o' 'maters and a jar of mayonnaise and I'm set.

 

[Nocam]

sorry to hear about the set backs and delays DD, were all gonna make it

 

[Scubabatdan]

Was thinking about doing something similar to this come the weekend ... oh, well. Don't have to think so much about it now.

From what I can see, this should work as-is in a regular tank but is still going to require some new path to ground for the base for the Billet Box (since the upper tube won't be completing the circuit from the brass ring) ... yes?
Not sure exactly how that's been done in the past, but I'm thinking a small piece of foam about 4-to-5 mm thick, cut to fit in the gap between based of the device and the back wall of the tank compartment (and underneath the tank itself), with some copper tape wrapped around it should do the trick. . . .

Ooooopppps, forgot about the top ground point....
Well now, that does put a kink in the plans LOL hmmmmm metal insert?
Dan

 

[rcoute]

Ok so I was bored today and was thinking up a way anyone could make a RBA carto at home... Here is what I came up with, it will cost you 8 bucks if you don't have everything:

Still needs the 510-510 adapter/extender...

Ok to make this you will need the following:

1 510 - 510 Adapter/extender:
510 to [510] Adapter/Extender

1 Vivi nova replacement head (rebuilt or new)
Atomizer Head for Vision Vivi Nova Tank

1 Old carto

1 Old Carto Condom, the silicone covers that come on the new ones.

OK, take the old carto and cut it to length, currently I do not know the exact length as I do not have the 510-510 adapter to make the measurements, so use a cutting wheel and cut off the 510 connector so you have an empty tube.

Cut the end off the carto condom and then split that, so you have a flat piece of silicone, wrap it around the silicone on the vivi nova head, and trim the excess so the ends match, like so...

Now push both silicone pieces in half way and then insert the vivi head and press in flush.

Now the only thing left sand/grind the 510-510 adapter down to remove the air slots. then screw on the 510-510 to the vivi head and check for a good ohms reading and put it in service. I will try this out and see what the carto tube needs to be cut to for the BB and if this thing will work, might have to add more wick material to fill the hole so it does not flood. Well we will see.


BTW this vivi head was one of my wife's old ones, and I cut out the burnt center section and used 5 of the silica strands when I rebuilt this. Fills the hole nicely.

Dan

Dan ; good idea seems so easy, but I'll wait the one you will put on the market

 

[Vapian]

Ooooopppps, forgot about the top ground point....
Well now, that does put a kink in the plans LOL hmmmmm metal insert?
Dan

Well, there's the foam/copper tape idea ... Or maybe, cut a couple of channels in the upper (former) carto body to allow the wicks to hang out, while the un-cut portion slides down and makes with the base of the Nova head? If the head happens to slide into the body, anyway, and tight enough for a reliable connection. Might result in having to remove less of the carto body to get it to the proper length for the BB, too.

 

[xpnsvtoys]

Just got a Gift Rocket gift card (if you call it that) that has padded my Paypal account a bit. Time to order up a DTD drip tip to go on the BB when it arrives. I am working a design with Brian at DTD and have a question to those of you who already have a Billet Box in hand. Can someone tell me what the outside diameter of the brass ground ring at the top of the BB is?

 

[jiphone]

Ooooopppps, forgot about the top ground point....
Well now, that does put a kink in the plans LOL hmmmmm metal insert?
Dan

Have a look at what I did to get a vision clearos guts in there...the clearo is pressed into a carto tube, the ground part is half of a spring from a pen and the top cap is the bottom of an 808 carto (the cap has to be inserted in the tank from the top after its installed in the BB:

btw Crocky, I'll send you this one, pm me your address

 

[jubal81]

I've started having a leaking problem I can't diagnose. The past two days, I've come upon my BB sitting in a pool of juice. I can see it doesn't seem to be coming from the gaskets around the carto, yet I don't see any deformities in the sides, either.

 

[Datalux]

I think he needs bacon...everything is better with bacon!

HOLY Mother of....I thought this place was moderated!! My son was standing right behind me when I scrolled down to that post!! He doesn't need to be seeing stuff like THAT at 15!

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[Vapian]

I've started having a leaking problem I can't diagnose. The past two days, I've come upon my BB sitting in a pool of juice. I can see it doesn't seem to be coming from the gaskets around the carto, yet I don't see any deformities in the sides, either.

That's almost exactly what I experienced when I had put two tanks in some very hot (not boiling) water for cleaning. The hot water softened the face enough to just barely deform from the pressure of the spring under the nitrile ball. There were NO obvious deformities, but they leaked like nobody's business.

My guess is the same thing can happen in a hot car, or any situation where the temp of the tank gets above 120 degrees or so.

If you want to confirm, rinse out your tank, dry it off on the outside and put it on its side - nitrile ball on the bottom, carto holes on the top. Then squirt some water in through and almost up to the carto holes. Pick up the tank (still holding it sideways and careful to not spill out from the holes) and watch for any drips from between the face and the body.

I'll bet you a 30ml bottle of DIY Banana Cream Pie that there will be dripping from the area near the nitrile ball.

 

[Big Screen D]

That's almost exactly what I experienced when I had put two tanks in some very hot (not boiling) water for cleaning. The hot water softened the face enough to just barely deform from the pressure of the spring under the nitrile ball. There were NO obvious deformities, but they leaked like nobody's business.

My guess is the same thing can happen in a hot car, or any situation where the temp of the tank gets above 120 degrees or so.

If you want to confirm, rinse out your tank, dry it off on the outside and put it on its side - nitrile ball on the bottom, carto holes on the top. Then squirt some water in through and almost up to the carto holes. Pick up the tank (still holding it sideways and careful to not spill out from the holes) and watch for any drips from between the face and the body.

I'll bet you a 30ml bottle of DIY Banana Cream Pie that there will be dripping from the area near the nitrile ball.

Hot car is exactly what happened to to the test tank I have. I managed to get the clover almost flat again by clamping, but not true enough. In particular, where the spring loaded ball presses against the cover, it creates a gap between the cover and the tank body that closes with just a little squeezing.

Didn't DD say somewhere in this mega thread that they were putting together some replacement parts/washers? Be nice to see a little BB tank kit. Few covers, washers, xtra screws, and allen wrench. Personally, I'd be all over a SS tank cover with or without the fill valve.

 

[Vapian]

Didn't DD say somewhere in this mega thread that they were putting together some replacement parts/washers? Be nice to see a little BB tank kit. Few covers, washers, xtra screws, and allen wrench. Personally, I'd be all over a SS tank cover with or without the fill valve.

Some pieces/parts have always come with the BB, but not hardware, just squishy stuff (o-rings and gaskets). DD has said that taking the tank apart is not recommended as those little screws can easily strip out the Delrin if one isn't careful.

While a stainless cover sounds nice, it would increase expense. My vote is for a tank with a Delrin cover.

Delrin's pretty good about holding its shape under heat (heat deflection temperature of 257 degrees @ 264 PSI) and made thin enough to replace the current cover it would be "see-through" enough to gauge the liquid level.

Of course, "thin enough to replace" may mean "more likely to deform". But if that's the case a slight redesign (slightly less body depth, made up for with a thicker face plate) would probably make up for it.

 

[jubal81]

Poop. It hasn't been off my person for more than 10 minutes. I guess that was enough. As much as I love the form factor, I think I'm done with the BB.

 

[ohman]

Ill take it....)

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[mwdenko]

So I had a CD in my car in 120degree weather and it got deformed. I'm not buying cd's anymore... They are soooooo 90's.

If I paid $200.00 for anything... I don't think I would leave it in my car. Just sayin...

 

[jubal81]

Gave the tank the Vapian test and the problem with mine isn't at the valve. It's at the top and bottom. Not a massive leak, but I can see the moisture behind the plate at the ends.

 

[Scubabatdan]

Gave the tank the Vapian test and the problem with mine isn't at the valve. It's at the top and bottom. Not a massive leak, but I can see the moisture behind the plate at the ends.

I would suggest removing the plastic cover, clean it and place it face down on a piece of glass and look for deformation. If deformed, dip it in boiling water and quickly sandwich it between two pieces of marble, or thick glass, anything that is absolutely flat and press it.
The boiling water will make it pliable, and the weighted press will true it back flat.

Hope this helps.
Dan

 

[Vapian]

Gave the tank the Vapian test and the problem with mine isn't at the valve. It's at the top and bottom. Not a massive leak, but I can see the moisture behind the plate at the ends.

It's not unusual to see a small amount of liquid between the face and the body on the inside. It's just not supposed to get past the silicon gasket between them.

Was it actually leaking through to the outside from the top and bottom? If so, that just seems ... odd.

Not saying that it can't or didn't happen, I just can't picture what kind of stress would cause deformations in those locations. Maybe just simple warping.

In any event, contact DD ... his number is on the website, I think. I have no doubt he'll take care of it for you.

 

[Absintheur]

HOLY Mother of....I thought this place was moderated!! My son was standing right behind me when I scrolled down to that post!! He doesn't need to be seeing stuff like THAT at 15!

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Bacon porn should never be censored...at 15 I was already addicted to these...tater tots wrapped in bacon, deep fried, and covered in cheddar...



Then there is always the cheeseburger made with grilled cheese for buns and plenty of bacon...



Face it, the pig is the most magical animal ever...no other animal can eat garbage and turn it into bacon!