The Crown - a competitior to the kick

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denali_41

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I'm thinking a small remote control like in a TV remote to change settings or Bluetooth so you could use a cell phone app to adjust settings. That would get me to buy it for sure. I wouldn't think that would be too expensive to add but I really have no idea how much that would cost or if it could be done. Sure seems like about everything else has a remote control these days.

remote or blue tooth ?? that would make it an Evic killer then lol
 

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Provari has a screen, 5 clicks turns on that screen, then you just press the button until what you want shows up...that's a lot different than this.

My point was things that don't seem intuitive at first glance probably are a lot easier to figure out in person than can be demonstrated in a short video. And I can change settings on my Provari without even looking at it. The auditory feedback replaces what you see on the screen with the crown, and I'm betting it's not as counterintuitive as it may seem.


I want my next pv to display it's information via Google Glass.

Now there's a good idea. :)
 

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This little device has piqued my interest more than anything else that has been released in quite some time. I absolutely love the idea of an auditory interface in place for a visual one. Not because I'm blind (although I know there's got to be some blind vapers out there, and this could work much better for them than trying to figure out a VV/VW device which uses a screen) but because I am a huge fan of regulated and adjustable devices, and I also like sleek simply look of a mechanical mod.

I have considered a kick, but do not like having to take the device apart to change settings. This solves the problem completely, and the fact that it bleeps and bloops is kind of a cool novelty to have on a PV, at least to me. It's not a time related issue, as in it takes too long to take a device apart to access the kick. It just seems very "hacked together" to have to disassemble something in order to use its features. Obviously that's not the fault of the kick, because the kick is supposed to be an add-on. But I just don't like it, and would never own one because of it.

But now I can finally get a nice mechanical mod, and have regulation and power adjustment, and change the settings with the device intact.

However, I don't like the power limit it has. Its size also worries me, if it's too small to take up the slack between an 18500 and a 18650 that means you are always going to have to use spacers, which again is one of those things that just bugs me and I don't like doing. It is cool that it's skinny enough to be used with 16xxx sized batteries, so you aren't limited to 18xxx sized mods.

i'm curious to see how well it ends up working, and what the cost will be.




I'd imagine the VV will have the same power limitation as the VW model. While it may go to 5.5v with high resistance heads, I doubt you'll get anywhere near 5.5v with LR stuff. Just like if you tried to use a 10ohm coil, for extreme example, with the VW model, it won't be able to increase voltage high enough to reach 9 watts, even though 9 watts is within the limit for the device.

Just like all these VV and VW devices, capable of a given voltage or wattage doesn't mean it will always reach a given voltage or wattage. Whether you are using volts or watts, the overall power limit it still there. VW and VV are just different methods of expressing the same general thing.



While compared to a kick that's a very fair complaint. But in the world of VV/VW devices the amount of clicking and waiting required to change settings on "The Crown" isn't extreme or out of the ordinary. For a single button interface device, that is.

Well said, just saw the Pbusardo review...thanks t8kiteasy for posting that. You're right, both the VV and VW modules apparently have the same 2.5 amp limit. So yeah, they aren't quite the heat regulation solution I was hoping to see for sub-ohm RBAs. Was half hoping I could use them with sub-ohm RBAs too and replace the ShortStop with these and not only get short-curcuit protection, but also the additional bonuses of heat regulation and low battery protection as well. My Kicked mechs are pretty much mated to the same carto/tank systems and mostly used with the same juice to avoid needing to adjust on them. This is definitely a welcome step forward as I'll be more enclined to switch tank systems and juices up more often on the mods these are paired with, just wish they had a higher amp limit to handle sub-ohm RBAs too, but not a deal-breaker.
 
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Doesn't everything to some degree?

Doesn't it literally have to apply current through the coil to test resistance? This is why multi-meters require batteries to check resistance. Maybe they apply some smaller amount of current than the device is set to (the Provari simply fires the coil), but I agree, current is necessary.
 

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Doesn't it literally have to apply current through the coil to test resistance? This is why multi-meters require batteries to check resistance. Maybe they apply some smaller amount of current than the device is set to (the Provari simply fires the coil), but I agree, current is necessary.

You can't measure resistance without current as far as I know. The provari fires the coil to check resistance and the battery.

I'm not saying the crown does anything right or wrong, I don't want one because I don't see myself counting beeps but this is the only way I know how to test at atty. Multimeters do it too.
 

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You do have to send current through the coil to check resistance. Some devices (like the Vamo) use such low amounts of power while checking resistance that the carto/atty/etc doesn't really fire.

But with a Zmax, for example, the only way to check resistance is to switch the screen's display to Resistance, get out of the menu, then fire the carto and it will display resistance. I think the Provari fires the carto while testing Resistance too

Speaking of this, anyone know if the reading would be more accurate if resistance was measured while firing at full power? My thinking is that some materials change their conductivity/resistance depending on temperature, so wouldn't the resistance of a coil change when it fires up at full vaping power? So if you sampled resistance with a tiny amount of power, it wouldn't give you an accurate resistance rating (well, a super accurate one) compared to if the resistance was sampled while the coil is at operating temperature?

I guess it just depends how much Nichrome and Kanthal change their conductivity while at high temperatures. I'd guess it probably doesn't change that much, but I was just curious.
 

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You can't measure resistance without current as far as I know. The provari fires the coil to check resistance and the battery.

I'm not saying the crown does anything right or wrong, I don't want one because I don't see myself counting beeps but this is the only way I know how to test at atty. Multimeters do it too.

There's firing and then there's firing. A multimeter is not going to provide enough to properly fire a coil, whereas from the video, it seemed that not only does the crown do so, but it requires that you hold it on for a second or so. What is the point of testing the resistance of a coil if you are going to fully fire it. Doesn't that defeat the object of testing it to make sure that it is safe? Why not just put it on a mech mod; If it burns out, then it is no good.
 
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There's firing and then there's firing. A multimeter is not going to provide enough to properly fire a coil, whereas from the video, it seemed that not only does the crown do so, but it requires that you hold it on for a second or so. What is the point of testing the resistance of a coil if you are going to fully fire it. Doesn't that defeat the object of testing it to make sure that it is safe? Why not just put it on a mech mod; If it burns out, then it is no good.

Provaris fire it enough to hear it and it lasts for a second or so. So I don't know what I should be expecting. An evic just pops up the resistance when you screw it on...is that more what you are looking for?
 
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