The Effects of Nicotine on the Human brain Long Version
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The effects of nicotine on human health | American Council on Science and Health (ACSH)
The effects of nicotine on human health | American Council on Science and Health (ACSH)
I find this an interesting read from the perspective of a moderate smoker (who has previously experienced cold turkey as well as heavy use). I mostly find it under informative. And the data on "smoking kills" I find to be lacking scientific research and/or the type of science that ANTZ might put forth. But feeling confident that no one will care to discuss this, so doesn't really matter.
I think you're almost certainly right, Jman; we can clearly see that TPTB have no compunction whatever about lying to suit their own ends. But you're also right that it really doesn't matter in this particular forum; there might be a few here who came looking for some justification for continuing to smoke tobacco, but I'd say the VAST majority here came looking for info, help, or just like-minded people, on the subject of e-cigs, and most of those have probably learned to their own cost, the physical costs of smoking, which is why they're interested in e-cigs.
I think it's probably also true that while smoking may not be as dangerous as we're encouraged to believe (for those with very light to moderate smoking habits), by far the vast majority of those who smoke are not capable of keeping it at the light-to-moderate level, and for that you can probably thanks all those "adulterants" that BT puts into the tobacco to make it far more addictive than it would otherwise be; and that while the *true* statistics of 'smoking-related' morbidity/mortality are probably somewhat lower than we're told, it's still a great deal more dangerous than e-cigs -- so what point is there really, in quibbling about the actual number of 'smoking-related' deaths -- I don't think e-cigs, used in the normal, typical fashion, have yet killed anyone, and who knows, may not ever -- so "some" is still more than "none".
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I'm not sure what this point has to do with OP, but seeing that we are on an ecig forum, I think it is worth addressing.
The point in quibbling about the actual number of 'smoking related' deaths is to seek accuracy (or even honesty) about the data. I find many people (arguably the overwhelming majority) ignore that exploration and take not only the number at face value, but the rationale that goes into that number. This doesn't bode well for eCigs and politics of eCigs. People that vape are going to die someday. If the same (exact) rationale holds up, their death will be attributed to 'eCig related death.' People like all of us here who scrutinize the heck out of all such information will know they are stretching in their rationale. General public will not scrutinize and will take the information at face value (See! I told you those things were bad!).
The only saving point right now is that many of those same people are ex-smokers, so the rationale can continue to be 'smoking related death.' That's right ECF member who swears they will never smoke again and haven't in x amount of years. When you die, you WILL die as a smoker, because of smoking. Quibble with this and you are quibbling with the relevant data that currently exists for what constitutes 'smoking related death.'
A grandfather and mother both smoked all their adult lives, and finally quit in their early 80's. Both lived to be 89; and, yep, died from smoking!
So, why do people who have never smoked die at 89?
So, why do people who have never smoked die at 89?
Very well written and very informative. Best bullet point in Part 3 - "Major anti-smoking groups in the United States currently oppose the sale of e-cigarettes. They are funded by the pharmaceutical industry. They deeply distrust the tobacco industry."
I always say, follow the money trail.
I always say, follow the money trail.
A grandfather and mother both smoked all their adult lives, and finally quit in their early 80's. Both lived to be 89; and, yep, died from smoking!
So, why do people who have never smoked die at 89?
Second-hand smoke, of course.
A grandfather and mother both smoked all their adult lives, and finally quit in their early 80's. Both lived to be 89; and, yep, died from smoking!
So, why do people who have never smoked die at 89?
Second-hand smoke, of course.
Let's not also forget third-hand smoke! 8-o (the horrors!!
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Let's not also forget third-hand smoke! 8-o (the horrors!!
Heck, let's just say, anyone who dies, is a smoking related death!
Interesting new article...says nicotine dependence is even questionable (at least on a wide population level): Chemical Dependency and Nicotine
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