"The J"

[dtx3yamaha]

I was at the mall today and the local e-cig dealer had this massive e-cig called "The J". I asked for more info, but he was intent on selling it right there. Since I didn't want to drop $250 right there I politely declined so I could look it up online.

Well I can't find it anywhere...it's this huge ecig (more like a cigar size) with the body and mouthpiece pretty much all metal from what I could see. It had a manual button to heat the vapor and on the end there was a capitol cursive 'J'.

What interests me most is how consistent and nicely the piece hit. I doubt you'd have to replace it much, if at all, especially if you upkeep it regularly. This is unlike the joye-510 which is kind of annoying me now.

I was just wondering if anybody else has heard of such an ecig before. The stand is called 'Totally Vapor USA' if anybody is wondering.

Thanks.

 

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Here's their website:

Totally Vapor

I didn't see anything like what you're describing on there. I wonder if he's using the Totally Vapor kiosk to shop his own wares around? I wish I had thought of that!

 

[Moshmarr]

Did it look like this?

JANTY EGO E-cig

I'm thinking it may be an Joye eGo clone, and a very overpriced one, at that...i've only seen high end mods in that price range. if this looks similar, check it out. It's the real thing and has a 6 month atomizer warranty, 3 month on batts.

Edit: I don't see anything like this on their site, so this is, of course, just a guess.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

For $250.00! No freakin way! I have paid over $200.00 for a GG but that is one thing. Did the unit look anything like the Janty EGO or the Hello 016?

 

[Houdini]

I've seen high end mods for less than half that. That's crazy!

 

[Youthful313]

It amazes me how greedy some ppl can be.

 

[dtx3yamaha]

I've been doing some research and it looks a lot like the screwdriver ecig. My guess is it's some offshoot of the screwdriver that the distributer is price gouging, haha. No way I'm paying anything over 100 for an ecig...but I've probably already spent around 150 on joy-510 stuff so I'm looking for something more reliable and less disposable.

I want something that lasts through the day and has consistent throat hits with lots of vapor

Looks to me like a screwdriver can do just what The J did in the mall from what I can tell.

 

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I've been doing some research and it looks a lot like the screwdriver ecig. My guess is it's some offshoot of the screwdriver that the distributer is price gouging, haha. No way I'm paying anything over 100 for an ecig...but I've probably already spent around 150 on joy-510 stuff so I'm looking for something more reliable and less disposable.

I want something that lasts through the day and has consistent throat hits with lots of vapor

If you get Joye eGo batteries, they will last most of the day. The 510 and the eGo are the same thing, except the eGo has bigger batteries, so you can use your existing carts and attys. If you get eGo batteries, you will need an eGo charger; you can't use the 510 charger with eGo batteries. Throat hit and vapor will be similar to the 510, though.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

The Screwdriver is a good model of e-cig, I have 3 of the originals that were made by trog here is his website. The ScrewDriver Online Electronic Cigarette Shop The 1000 Mah battery should give you a good vape time. The only thing is that good vapor and th are subjective.

Good vapor can be as simple as getting a tasty E-liquid with the right combination of PG and VG mix and throat hit can be had in several different ways.

For good vapor I think that a mix of 80% PG and 20% VG works best

For throat hit Guide: Getting the best throat hit Vaping, not Smoking

Hope that this helps!

 

[dtx3yamaha]

If you get Joye eGo batteries, they will last most of the day. The 510 and the eGo are the same thing, except the eGo has bigger batteries, so you can use your existing carts and attys. If you get eGo batteries, you will need an eGo charger; you can't use the 510 charger with eGo batteries. Throat hit and vapor will be similar to the 510, though.

What about the Screwdriver's atomizers? I seem to have trouble with those with the 510 every now and then too. Are those more consistent with the screwdriver?

 

[Kent C]

It amazes me how greedy some ppl can be.

"Greedy" takes two sides. You have to have that "stupid" part in there or 'greedy' doesn't work. If people want to do away with greed, they have to educate rather than indoctrinate. IOW, exactly what isn't happening today.

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House: People choose the paths that gain them the greatest rewards for the least amount of effort.

 

[Youthful313]

"Greedy" takes two sides. You have to have that "stupid" part in there or 'greedy' doesn't work. If people want to do away with greed, they have to educate rather than indoctrinate. IOW, exactly what isn't happening today.

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House: People choose the paths that gain them the greatest rewards for the least amount of effort.

I totally concur with that statement.

 

[Col. Gaunt]

What about the Screwdriver's atomizers? I seem to have trouble with those with the 510 every now and then too. Are those more consistent with the screwdriver?

What type of problems are you experiencing with the 510 atomizers?

 

[Kent C]

I totally concur with that statement.

And I concur with your original too. The 'greedy' should look after their long term self interests too. Once the greed is evident, they tend to lose traders..... as they should.

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Dr Wilson: You can't use another patient's lab to diagnose Kawasaki disease!
House: Is that like a dare or something?

 

[Elendil]

Each person makes a value judgment when they purchase an item, whether it be a pack of gum, a home, or something in between, like an ecig. If you, as the buyer, are OK with the price you are paying and feel you are getting value for your money, who is anyone to say you are stupid or the seller greedy.

I've got a $200 mod enroute right now. Is it something that a person could build themselves? Obviously yes, but I don't have the time and more importantly the necessary skill to do it myself. So I pay the $200 because, for my situation, I have determined that I am getting the value for the $$ spent. Anything else is fluff..........

 

[Whistle_Pig]

you can't use the 510 charger with eGo batteries.

Yes, you can. Until I got better power for my eGo Fast charger, I was charging my eGoXL with a std. 510 USB charger. Or, you can buy the charging adapter to be able to screw your eGo into the std. 510 wall charger.

 

[Whistle_Pig]

I'm really curious to see where this goes, given Kent C's avatar image.

Hmmm. Maybe "The J" is worth it because it's made from Reardon Metal.

 

[Amber Denee]

Each person makes a value judgment when they purchase an item, whether it be a pack of gum, a home, or something in between, like an ecig. If you, as the buyer, are OK with the price you are paying and feel you are getting value for your money, who is anyone to say you are stupid or the seller greedy.

I've got a $200 mod enroute right now. Is it something that a person could build themselves? Obviously yes, but I don't have the time and more importantly the necessary skill to do it myself. So I pay the $200 because, for my situation, I have determined that I am getting the value for the $$ spent. Anything else is fluff..........

Well said !!

 

[Kent C]

Each person makes a value judgment when they purchase an item, whether it be a pack of gum, a home, or something in between, like an ecig. If you, as the buyer, are OK with the price you are paying and feel you are getting value for your money, who is anyone to say you are stupid or the seller greedy.

Stupidity and greediness exist. That doesn't mean that how you describe an exchange isn't true. All exchanges that are made (without intervention by a third party) are almost by definition, consensual. And the one thing about the free market is, it's the only game in town where everyone wins. Both the buyer and seller are happy and unlike other (interventionist) exchanges, both usually thank each other.

When a person, after an exchange finds that they have not gotten what they thought they were getting - they either - blame the buyer as greedy or think themselves as stupid and in many cases both conditions existed.

Greed is not operating in one's self interest. Neither is not becoming educated (being stupid wrt) in the product or service you're buying. That is to what I was referring. I guess I could have been clearer.

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Dr. Wilson: And that's why religious belief annoys you. Because if the universe operates by abstract rules you can learn them, you can protect yourself. If a Supreme Being exists he can squash you any time he wants.
House: He knows where I am. (walks away)

 

[oettinger]

Each person makes a value judgment when they purchase an item, whether it be a pack of gum, a home, or something in between, like an ecig. If you, as the buyer, are OK with the price you are paying and feel you are getting value for your money, who is anyone to say you are stupid or the seller greedy.

This is what contracts and the Uniform Commercial Code are all about.

Question one: Is the offer which may be accepted an ethical one? Yes, as it offers the buyer a product that does what it is said to do for the offered price while giving the seller the profit that he desires. Although ethics are not part of the UCC, people often ask this question first.

Is the contract entered into coerced or made under duress? unless the seller is forcing you to take his offer, or is purposefully lying to you to hide details of the contract than it is not coerced. (even though we often feel car dealers do this, it is typically not the case under the UCC)

Is the contracts presented to a minor or a person with limited capability? Unless the buyer is consider LEGALLY mentally incapable to enter into a contract or is a minor the contract is valid.

Is the contract unconscionable? Meaning are the terms of the contract so grossly unfair that they can be considered unworkable or unbelievable by ANY reasonable person. (back to the car dealer, a dealer sold a 2005 used Mazda to a 75 yr old lady on social security for $35,000 and the court STILL ruled in favor of the dealer as the deal may have been a stupid or misinformed one, but STILL not unconscionable.)

There are a few other stipulations in there, but the proprietor of this location is offering a product which the OP can shop, and compare, and the other part of contracts which is weather the good or service is held as a matter of physical wellbeing does not apply here either.

SO we may not agree with the price, the seller is not specifically being greedy, but offering a product that is available for a person who wants to enter into a contract for the purchase at the at time agreed price.

WOW, LSAT here I come. I should post on the legal forums huh?
Disclaimer: I am not a LAWYER, I am just educated in the ways of law, and the codes presented therein.