The LIES!!!

[PeppermintPatty]

Blerg! I have made the mistake of watching some YT videos on the subject of vaping, mostly news clips. I should not have done that, now my blood pressure is shooting through the roof. Here are some of the incredible statements that I heard tonight alone.
1) "Most everyone who uses electronic cigarettes continue to smoke regular cigarettes as well, so they are just not helpful"
2) "The flavors are just for marketing to children. It is not like a truck driver is going to smoke a strawberry flavored e cigarette"
3) "People who use electronic cigarettes are freebasing nicotine.They just use more and more nicotine with their e cig."
4) "Electronic cigarettes are a gateway to smoking regular cigarettes. People who start with electronic cigarettes end up smoking regular ones because they need more nicotine."
(obviously this last statement in direct opposition to the one above it...make up your minds folks)

I cannot believe how easy it is to do a bit of online research on e cigs and dispell these myths. At the very least the host of the programs could do a little research. As for the so-called experts....site your studies on all those statements. A scientific expert should be nothing if not a scientist, and statements like these without studies are simply hypotheses. It is ok to say "we don't know" but blatent lies are so annoying.

What are some of the more interesting lies you guys have heard?

On a more positive note...love to see the former Surgeon General sitting on the board for NIJOY. vape on!

 

[AndriaD]

Someone on the forum said his brother told him that e-cigs would cause cholera... ROFL! That's got to be the goofiest one I've heard yet.

But I have to question the sanity of anyone who would earnestly assert that vaping would lead to smoking. Why would someone want to breathe a trash fire when they could breath sweet vapor? It makes no sense whatsoever. Someone on the forum has a sig line about that... that after drinking 100 yr old brandy, who would want to drink warm beer instead?

They're so desperate, but their lies are completely, 100% ridiculous, and it seems that anyone with HALF a brain should be able to see thru them like glass.

Andria

 

[pauly walnuts]

They're so desperate, but their lies are completely, 100% ridiculous, and it seems that anyone with HALF a brain should be able to see thru them like glass.

Andria

Our biggest enemy is the stupidity of the public. And as someone who pays attention to politics and media propaganda, I see alot of stupid people who buy EVERYTHING they hear on the news. It doesnt matter whether or not the topic is true in the least, if its said on someones 'trusted' news source, its believed hook, line and sinker. There are quite a few important issues that the media twists to serve their political masters, and the people who wouldnt understand the information otherwise, will take it as truth.

Only those, like us, who inhabit the 'counter culture' and do our homework know otherwise. We search out factual and testable information because the truth matters to us. We are the ones who gets hurt by bad publicity, but we are not the majority. The majority has their heads in the sand, and are too busy playing candy crush to give a crap about truth.

 

[Dave_in_OK]

We use to have a saying " If you can't Dazzle them with your Brilliance Baffle them with BullSH!!" Lets just say the media, ANTZ and gov haven't Dazzled me for a long time but they do Baffle me.

 

[Feignix]

"Freebasing nicotine"......so I guess the whole time I've been doing it wrong! Ha! That's funny, not maddening! Truck drivers not possibly wanting strawberry flavoring, yes, because that's part of a requirement when they get certified to drive....but seriously, initially I DID feel as if I was back doing "other activities" of yesteryears and long ago lol, and actually kind of struggled with it when I first started getting and setting up my tanks etc. My own brother whom I've been trying to sell the idea to mentioned that same feeling when I was telling him about all my stuff as well so surely we can't be the ONLY new vapers experiencing that, so I guess what I'm trying to say is I can KIND OF see the reasoning that goes into the "freebasing" or similar statements. I don't get hardcore libs or hardcore repubs for that matter, (no offense to anyone), but how is it reasonable to think it's OK to legalize SMOKING [MODERATED], but vaping our "strawberrry flavored nicotine" is NOT? Can someone explain that to me.....when people talk about the possible risks and concerns I simply say HARM REDUCTION, and THIS was the ONLY WAY, I could stop smoking! Then demonstrate for them, and ask them which they'd prefer and what they think!

We ALL know this is big government and big business, of which I'm uncertain at this point which is which, doing EVERYTHING they can, to divert the loss of revenue BACK into THEIR pockets! The TRUTH IS, those types could care LESS about people's safety! If I want to be a guinea pig and risk destroying my lungs A DIFFERENT way, verses the currently "acceptable" way I now am, and the way [MODERATED] has NOW been given the approval for, PLUS doesn't negatively affect OTHERS, what reason does anyone have cause or concern for? Now that we got "Obamacare" it's all going to be ok anyways right? Ha!

 

[CrazyDamon]

Havent heard much besides the usual 'but there's antifreeze in those' from a bystander as Im walking down the street with my Mvp 2.0 in hand. Pretty sad how easily people can be so brainwashed.

 

[ScottP]

I learned a long time ago that if brains were gun powder, the "average" person wouldn't have enough to fill a bullet to put themselves out of our misery.

 

[AndriaD]

So, it would seem that this is actually a battle between the intelligent and the stupider-than-a-rock... in which case, we're doomed, because there's just SO MANY of them! They outnumber the intelligent by AT LEAST 10 to 1... maybe 100 to 1... And god, how they breed....

I've known for years that the only reason why those of us who actually know what THINKING is are considered intelligent, is because of all the others... they have no idea what thinking MEANS. If you try to explain something to them, and say something like "Now, think about it..." they get this look on their face like they're struggling with a giant BM, and make this whining noise like you just asked them to dig a 12 ft trench with their bare hands.

Andria

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

I'm flabbergasted at what people can believe just because some guy on their favorite news station said so. I'm actually surprised that Google is still doing so well, because as far as I know, there aren't that many people out there willing to look anything up. I recently got into a debate on the benefits and drawbacks of common core testing here in NY. I don't agree with teaching to a test, but I found myself suddenly on the other side of the argument. She didn't want the testing because of the high failure rate. Her kid, like 80% of the kids in my son's class, failed all the practice exams. She came to the conclusion that the test was too hard. She was essentially arguing that the bar had to be lowered. One of those kinds of parents who believe every kid that shows up should get an award. Why would anyone want to put any work into researching anything when you don't need to put work into it to win the award? That's what I think is going on today.

 

[Amraann]

Comment #2 is just ridiculous!! (as are the others)

But #2 irritates me. Why would a trucker not vape strawberry? Maybe the trucker is a female? OR maybe like my husband the trucker likes fruit flavors like guava and ecto cooler?
I did not realize that men are not suppose to like fruit flavors. I suppose based on the statement that fruit flavors mean they are marketed to children then strawberry vodka and flavored cigars must be as well! Funny how we never hear that in the media.

One of the dumbest things I have heard is about all the people, pets and children getting poisoned from E-liquid. Yet so far I have not read of one person being kept over night in the hospital. ONE person did die but from what I understand that was a deliberate suicide.

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

Comment #2 is just ridiculous!! (as are the others)

But #2 irritates me. Why would a trucker not vape strawberry? Maybe the trucker is a female? OR maybe like my husband the trucker likes fruit flavors like guava and ecto cooler?
I did not realize that men are not suppose to like fruit flavors. I suppose based on the statement that fruit flavors mean they are marketed to children then strawberry vodka and flavored cigars must be as well! Funny how we never hear that in the media.

One of the dumbest things I have heard is about all the people, pets and children getting poisoned from E-liquid. Yet so far I have not read of one person being kept over night in the hospital. ONE person did die but from what I understand that was a deliberate suicide.

It was. He injected the e-liquid and left a suicide note.

 

[cbrite]

how is it reasonable to think it's OK to legalize SMOKING {OTHER STUFF}, but vaping our "strawberrry flavored nicotine" is NOT? Can someone explain that to me...

This is something I'd like to have explained also. It makes absolutely no sense to me. I don't care if they legalize that "other stuff," but it doesn't compute how vaping could be considered harmful and the other stuff is fine. I have read studies showing that the smoke from that "other stuff" is just as harmful as cig smoke, and having been in places where the smell of that other stuff was in the air (lots and lots of it in the air), I wonder why "strawberry vapor" has to be banned everywhere indoors and out.

 

[Jimi D.]

Well, call me Richard Pryor wearing a dress ! I love Strawberry, and I drive big trucks !

 

[Kuljit]

Lol, one of my maintenance technicians is a former truck driver and his ADV is mango melonberry ;p

 

[Tinkiegrrl]

My husband is a ball playing, fight starting, man's man. He vapes Mother's Milk as one of two ADV's. Strawberry and cream.

 

[StarsAndBars]

The media is telling ignorant lies about ecigs?

 

[Ms.P]

because there's just SO MANY of them! They outnumber the intelligent by AT LEAST 10 to 1... maybe 100 to 1... And god, how they breed....

I disagree. They're just LOUDER than we are.

 

[jp_cfc09]

about the poisoning of pets, children and even adults. was told to be careful the other day as not to get any liquid on my hands as it would poison me and could die lol, thats what facebook and news media does to people. I laughed and dropped some on my hands to see his face to which I said ill leave it on and see how long I last, gave up waiting after 10 minutes but. I work on cars daily and get all sorts of car fuilds on my hands and clothes, havent died yet so dont get why someone would be so silly to think e liquid is anthrax (once exposed your screwed). my friend just said but thats what all over facebook and that news reporter said about it, even hand contact will be absorbed and is dangerous.

too many gullible people in this world I think for its own good.

 

[Robino1]

Please don't mention illegal drugs. Even if one is legal in some states, it is not in all. Nor is it legal in most countries. Thank you

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ation/255864-why-we-dont-allow-drug-talk.html

 

[ncolwell]

I'm vaping strawberry right now, and let me tell you...it is yummy. My husband is also a truck driver, and right now he's vaping Red Bull, but as soon as he hears I opened my strawberry, I'm pretty sure he's going to be changing flavors.