The unoxidized method? Plus an aga?

[Butters78]

I'm really curious about this. I haven't really touched my did clone yet due to the fact the oxidization process of the whole deal made me a bit nervous. So now that I've heard (thanks Donnah!) that there is this pulse type method of doing it has got me excited. That is something I can do. First part of my inquiry is a good video on this. I went on youtube and did a search and a bunch of videos came up. I just want to see the gold standard on this is. Oh and the only mesh I have is the one that came with the did clone. Is this mesh even worth trying this out with or should I order a fresh sheet? Should I get the 400, 500? If so where is a good place to order?

I'll be using my did clone but curious about the aga. Which is the newest best one? I see different model numbers I'm a but confused on it.

 

[Thrasher]

steam monkey or okcvapes usually for mesh, and 500 seems to work fine with everything.


dont know of correct video but heres a quick rundown from lots of experimentation.

first roll the wick with the grain going from top to bottom of the wick.

once rolled take a lighter and just lightly fire the wick, making it hot after rolling takes the springiness out and it will tighten up easier.
when rolled try to round it out the best you can.


it is best to make the wick barely fit the hole. not tight but not falling in loose either.


now to make the coil, use a rod, drill bit whatever. this is very important the wick must be the same size as the drill bit you decide to use.

wrap the coil on the bit, set the bit in the hole and attach the coil, usually i attach the bottom screw then pull the wire tight and fasten the top and adjust the coils, then carefully remove the bit by turning it. basically unscrewing it



then gently slide the wick into the coil, it should not grab but not fall in either

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[Thrasher]

then you start to lightly pulse the fire button to get the coil glowing, first you usually get just the top coil and it slowly works its way around



once you see after several pulses it will stay glowing evenly you fill and check it wet.



after a tank or two the wick and coil will get some buildup keeping it stable and vaping steady.



sit back and enjoy vaping bliss - until you get real good at it you may get a short pop up once in a while but just adjusting the coil or another dry firing will solve it, after a few tanks the wicks get enough buildup to where shorting inst a problem anymore even after rinsing them.

 

[FogHawg]

Great tutorial Thrasher!

 

[donnah]

Listen to EVERYTHING Thrasher and Rule62 says! Pulsing is best done on your EA rather than the Provari, the Provari will detect the shorts and keep throwing errors. This is the reason I don't do the unoxidized method, all I have are Provari's. Here's some videos

In this one, Todd tries to see how fast he can build and wick and coil from start to vaping. Notice he's not oxidizing and when he installs his wick and coil, he pulses to get it oxidized.

 

[donnah]

Here's another one

 

[Thrasher]

once again as i initially learned this from PK and seems to always get left out of a lot of the tutorials.

IT is important to make the wick round and smooth as you can and be the same size as the coil/drillbit. i see this information skipped so many times and then people cant figure out why they hotspot like crazy, becuase the coil is loose in several places and too tight in others.

 

[Butters78]

Thanks for the top notch tutorial Thrasher! You always deliver bro.

Donnah I was going to pm you but didn't want to bother you again heh. Yup I'll use my EA without the kick to set it up. I think the kick detects shorts as well.

 

[donnah]

I watched a bunch of scott's videos on setting up various gennys, but they all have the same principle. In this video, which is actually a juice review, he shows how to do the unoxidized method at around minute 3.



I know you have did clone, so do I and it vapes just as good as my others. with the did clone, the top cap, when screwed on all the way, doesn't line the air hole up with the wick. I used to just back it out enough to line the hole up with the wick but I've found that it's easier and more stable if I just press it on. I have another did clone ordered and plan to try sanding the top cap and see if it'll screw on snug. That's my only complaint with the clone, the top cap is unstable. If it were snug and in no danger of coming off at inopportune times, it would be perfect.

 

[Thrasher]

lol i like Scott he makes me laugh sometimes, its cool watching someone who really enjoys this stuff.

"givin me a nice lil thump inna back o me troat"

 

[Rule62]

Yes, one important thing that is overlooked often is that the wick has to be perfectly round. In fact, I believe PetarK makes straw wicks, with not a lot of mesh, and rounds them out by inserting the proper size nail, toothpick, or whatever, into the center of the wick, to swage them out.

 

[donnah]

I never had much luck with wrapping my coil around something, installing it in the device and then trying to make a perfect wick. I do better hand wrapping mine either in the hole or out. Mine never seemed to come out perfectly round. But then it's been a while since I actually rolled a piece of mesh. All of mine have been in use since I first started with rbas. I don't know if I've even rolled 5 wicks so far LOL. All my wicks are 400 but whenever I need to order more, I'm going to try 500.

I'm now thinking that much of my current success is due to the fact that all my wicks are well seasoned. And that is why I had so much trouble with the AC9, I was using a new wick and was expecting to nail it the first coil or two.

 

[donnah]

lol i like Scott he makes me laugh sometimes, its cool watching someone who really enjoys this stuff.

"givin me a nice lil thump inna back o me troat"

That's my favorite line! I love to watch Scott and Todd and Phil!

 

[Thrasher]

i have several wicks laying around, used before and i will throw them in when playing with a different atty or set up just for that reason the coil area is well seasoned and makes setup very quick.


i have found making a fold for the center wrap then rolling the wick and working out the lumps then hitting it with a lighter and rolling the opposite direction from the initial roll make the final smoothing/tightening rolls much easier. also it seems to make its own small center channel this way so two birds kinda thing.

 

[donnah]

Here's another video for ya Eric. The audio isn't the best and I cringe when I see him fill that nice device with Pluid

 

[Butters78]

I appreciate all the great videos Donnah thanks!