the Vmod

[Iffy]

Being a recent purchaser of two V-mods and still exploring the possible voodoo dance variances to justify my expenditures, I'm really having an issue with the attitudes of some of the V-mod fans here towards Fernand, more so than the device it's self!

Thus far, there are few issues that he has highlighted that I haven't experienced. In fact, it was his efforts that prompted me to make such a purchase. But, whenever he notes an issue or a possible workaround, there are negative innuendos, at best, or pure BS attacks at worst. What the Hades is wrong with some of you?!?!

The man has given you photographic evidence and rational personal observations of his experiences with this device! But, noooo, he must have fracked up and is totally wacko. This is the gent that upon my request sent me a three page response re the V-Mod. Through my V-Mod experiences, he's dead on compared to those that are willing to accept what they bought. Yes, there must be some that have had no issues at all... consider yourself lucky. Oh, don't try the "ya don't know enough to appreciate the device". That turnip truck dropped most of ya'll off while I was driving!

Am I pizzed with the V-Mod? No, just those that belittle and besmirch those that have a legitimate issue, and especially those that have the ability and knowledge to question functionality. Ya'll go back and review the issues Fernand has brought to the table and judge yourselves objectively, if ya dare.

Will I keep my V-Mods? At this point I don't know. At best IMHO, they're near equal to an eGo batt and eMDCC. I luv the ergonomics, size and convenience. So, my jury is still out.

If I ruffled any feathers, so be it. But I can't 'stand by' and let an earnest individual suffer an onslaught on his own when I agree with him.

Defense rebuttal...?

 

[Kasia]

Never discourage anyone who continually makes progress, no matter how slow.
Aristotle

 

[Iffy]

Never discourage anyone who continually...

... seeks the truth!
Iffy

 

[brian272465]

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[Fernand]

Hey, Iffy, I still have my (eGoBatt + Echo) and (eGoBatt + EMDCC). There doesn't have to be only one. Now the VMOD with a little work is added to the arsenal. CE2 and Boge tanks are good, but a bit too unwieldy, so these 3 are the best setups I've found so far, and they all have pros and cons. For new users, the $45 price of an Echo-E kit and the foolproof aspect I think totally rules. For tweaks they all have a place. I'm finding I'm using the VMOD + Joye atty or Boge 2.0 carto a lot. The VMOD form factor is fantastic, the feed design is great. My object here was to solve or work around its problems, certainly not to trash anybody.

BTW with a wrap and a half of Magic Tape on a Joye atty barrel, the seal is good and the cone doesn't stress. I'm not crazy about having the tape's adhesive next to juice, but so far nothing else as simple and effective.

... and so we Vape on!

 

[proax9]

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[wfo_ak]

UPS just brought me a shiny new Vmod today. Thanks to all the tips on this thread I've got it up and running fairly well with few issues, I do have a question for you more experienced Vmodders though. Using the hybrid atty I find the draw much tighter than than with the silo. Is this normal from the hybrid?

Thanks!

 

[AlmightyGod]

Welcome!

The Silo is an easier draw than the Hybrid? They seem about the same to me. Is the difference slight or dramatic?

 

[Fernand]

UPS just brought me a shiny new Vmod today. Thanks to all the tips on this thread I've got it up and running fairly well with few issues, I do have a question for you more experienced Vmodders though. Using the hybrid atty I find the draw much tighter than than with the silo. Is this normal from the hybrid?

Thanks!

Could be just that atomizer's build. If it bothers you, and is due to lack of clearance, maybe you can try very very gently pushing the wick-coil assembly up a hair through the battery connector air hole, like with a blunt needle.

It's worth getting an atomizer set up just the way you like it, as they last a lot longer, at the same performance level, than any cartomizers.

BTW, the Joye attys are working well. 3 ohmers are too lethargic, but once I found one that was coming in around 2.2 Ohms, the vapor is very good, and for easily a dozen consistent drags between squirshes. One nice detail is that after pulling the barrel up, if you don't want to use it on the Vmod, you can push it back down and use it on other devices.

The bottles don't last forever, they seem to always invisibly fail at the neck below the threading. With the top gasket making a perfect seal, I'm not finding any need to even rinse the chassis. But it's tempting to speed things up and stress the bottle ;-) Apparently these $0.40 ones work:

http://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/p-6816-cylinder-bottle-3ml-with-dropper-cap.aspx

 

[wfo_ak]

Thanks for the idea. I actually kind of like the draw, might have to try one of smaller venturi in it.

On the subject of coils, I'm not sure if mine is quite right or not. Read all the earlier posts on it but it was too much info all at once and I'm a little murky on it. Is it ok if one end of the coil is glowing bright red on activation?

 

[AlmightyGod]

Take a Paperclip & push down the spot that is glowing. This appears to be something new which has occurred in the last batch of hybrids.

 

[wfo_ak]

Much better, thank you. Still one loop that I couldn't get to stop glowing but is quite a bit better now.

 

[brian272465]

I've had the same problem with the last 4 1.5 hybribs I bought I had to adjust the coils till they stoped glowing once you get them just right they are awsome .

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[brian272465]

I seen some one say there was gona be a 18650 v mod coming out soon . Does any one know how big the bottle is gona be?

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[Fernand]

Thanks for the idea. I actually kind of like the draw, might have to try one of smaller venturi in it.

On the subject of coils, I'm not sure if mine is quite right or not. Read all the earlier posts on it but it was too much info all at once and I'm a little murky on it. Is it ok if one end of the coil is glowing bright red on activation?

No, it's not OK unless that hot coil spot has no contact with juice, which in an atomizer is nearly impossible, as the whole coil is splashed with juice, and liquid also seeps onto the hot wire. Where the coil is wound tightly on the wick, the temp cannot normally exceed the boiling point of the liquid mixture. The problem with a coil section that's not cooled by liquid is that it's a very high temp spot where liquid rapidly decomposes. Then it's not very different from a cigarette ember, is it? The bad taste is due to breakdown chemicals, like acrolein etc. I would never vape knowingly using such a coil, from any vendor. If workarounds like gently pushing the coil around don't fully suppress all glowing, it's safer to call it useless/DOA.

 

[wfo_ak]

Sorry Almighty, I missed a reply there. The difference is very noticeable, from feeling almost zero resistance on the silo to the atomizer being close to what a cigarette is.

Fernand, are you able to drill the Joyes to make them work? Don't have anything to put them onto right now to loosen the base on them.

 

[Fernand]

Fernand, are you able to drill the Joyes to make them work? Don't have anything to put them onto right now to loosen the base on them.

I did not try drilling. We're in unknown territory. If you have a 1/16" preferably titanium-tipped bit and some way to hold it, you can try. But there are problems. When you just pierce the barrel and connector on a carto, you get into the filler chamber, where you want to be. The air normally has its own pathway, like a tube. Perfect. As they age, vertical coil cartos suffer from filler swelling, so it gets harder to push liquid into the filler. You can stick a needle from above along the side where the drilled hole is to push the filler inward a bit, and it feeds better. Ultimately the filler gets weird or you burn it. End o' carto. With the atomizer I think you want an opening into the narrow cylinder between the barrel wall and the cup, so liquid comes up the sides, like on my photo. That's what lifting the barrel does. If you drill even a smidge too far, you are into the air space beneath the cup I think. Not the best space to feed liquid into. That's why I didn't even try drilling. See if you can't find something to hold the atty's threaded connector to walk the barrel up a millimeter or two.

 

[Tat_skull]

So Fernand, basically any 510 will work doin it this way?? And how are you walking them up??

 

[wfo_ak]

Ok, I see what you're saying there. I guess I didn't quite grasp that difference between the two. Thanks for the more detailed explanation.

 

[Fernand]

So Fernand, basically any 510 will work doin it this way?? And how are you walking them up??

Many 510 devices have the same fluting that they push the barrel down onto. That may or may not get you into the right compartment. With Joye type atties it's perfect, and it should work with many cartos. Screw the atty into an old battery and push like "breaking a pencil" a little at a time, or you will snap the battery connector off the battery. Keep turning the assembly until you feel the barrel is starting to loosen, keep going enough to rock the barrel while pulling. At that point you can lift it or push it back down. But I haven't been able to do this with the Boge 2, snapped two old batteries trying. Maybe there's an adhesive and some heat should be applied. Let us know if you succeed!