There seems to be several brands of 510 and eGo-type...which are best?

[fiery1]

I've spent hours going over all the newbie info, trying to get the info I need...and am now more confused than ever!!! I finally had to give up and just ask.

I want to switch to e-cigs, because I have a movement disorder that causes spasms...I tend to drop regular cigs and drop ashes everywhere and have even sent a lit cigarette flying through the air behind me! Luckily, I have tile floors and it missed my bed, huh?

I am on permanent disability, with a limited income, and am currently smoking little cigars that cost me $17.89 a carton. Very cheap, but all I can afford. In order to switch to e-cigs, I'll have to find a VERY inexpensive kit and can't afford to buy the wrong one. I'll have to buy the extras, like a PCC and extra batteries, a little at a time.

From what I've read, it seems that the eGo is the best choice for me. However, there are times when I'll want to have an e-cig that looks (and feels) more like a "real" cigarette, like when I'm driving. (Yep, I can still drive. Don't worry. It's the small, precise movements, like holding or picking up something small, that cause the spasms.)

Question #1: see the title, please. And yes, I know everyone will have a different opinion, but that's why I'm asking.

Question #2: Am I wrong, or can the 510 be...upgraded, I guess...to work like the eGo simply by buying a different battery? I can only get one or the other at first.

Question #3: How often will I need to buy new vaporizers, batteries and such?

Question #4: If I use the juice, have a spasm and squeeze in too many drops, will it harm the e-cig?

Thanks in advance for any and all replies.

 

[mrtiedye]

This is the kit I bought. I would recommend it to anyone. You might get it cheaper somewhere else. The battery is a little bigger than a regular cigarette, but it lasts a good long while. Also, it might be easier for you to grip.

From what I have gathered, there are multiple options with the 510. Different size batteries, high and low resistance atomizers, pass throughs, etc. Just make sure you only order items that are designated to work with the 510.

Don't really know about replacing equipment, as I have only been doing this for a week or so.

If you get a manual battery and you are direct dripping, the worst you can do is flood the atomizer. When I do this, I just burn it off until it starts hitting correctly again. If you are using cartridges or cartomizers, if you overfill them, you will just get juice everywhere. If you are using an automatic battery, overfilling can kill the battery.

Edit: If anything I say conflicts with something someone else says, go with what they say. I am still a newbie myself.

 

[dormouse]

Joye is the original manufacturer of Ego

A Joye 510 is the slim ecig of the same threading and the slim 510 can only use standard resistance atomizers and standard resistance cartomizers and its own 510 charger cable and PCC

The Ego can use standard and hotter low resistance atomizers and cartomizers as well as Ego tank atty and tanks, and its own Ego fast charger and Ego PCC

So they can share standard resistance attys and cartos. But LR attys and cartos or Ego fast charger would damage slim 510 batteries.

if you want a cheaper Ego clone that is well made and popular, I got a whole Riva 510 Lite Bundle for under $30 at Liberty-Flights.com by clicking the 20% in the upper left of their front page (I had to use Internet Explorer to see the 20% off) - then all prices shown are shown reduced by 20% and that makes the Lite bundle under $30

#2 No - you would not have the cone or the Ego fast charger if you did that so it would take a long time to charge the Ego, and you would not have any low resistance attys that might have come with the Ego. but if you really just want the battery life you could buy the battery and the fast charger cable for it. I labeled my fast charger to make sure I don't stick my 510 in it.

#3 batteries - as longer as they are manuals they shoukd last about 150 recharges. Atomizers - it varies. Low resistance atomizers burn hotter and seem to be more prone to failure. An atomizer can last months or days. I mostly use Boge cartomizers instead which cost $2 each and I can get 1-2 weeks use out of one if I keep it damp. And I mainly use atomizers for dripping and trying flavors.

#4 shouldn't harm a manual 510 threaded battery but you may have to clean it up

 

[CBB]

The 510 connection will work with the classic 510 battery (looks like a cigarette) and the eGo style and clones. Many people have many opinions on eGo vs clone but the clones seem just as good as the eGo to me.

Since you have motor control issues I would recommend cartomizers they are easier to fill and require less effort to use. Accidental overfilling won't be a major problem as long as you use manual batteries. If you accidentally over fill you can shake out excess liquid and sop up any that doesn't come out from shaking with a q-tip. You may have to blow out your carto if it floods from overfilling but that is not difficult.

I smoked 2.5 packs a day of rollies at $2.50 a pack and I am saving a little money vaping. At $18 a carton you will probably be vaping about the same dollar amount that you smoked. If not it should not be much more expensive. YMMV

An eGo or clone starter kit will cost $30-60 depending on brand and frills. If you budget to buy a new kit every 6 months which is far less time than a pair of batteries should last (and replacing two batteries is nearly as expensive as buying a new starter kit) you can stay ahead of the game by having the money ready and putting it off until you need it.

You can also buy standard 510 batteries (9mm) and a charger for them relatively cheap for when you want a cig-a-like, but I doubt you would really need it. You will get comfortable with an eGo quickly. Cartomizers will cost you less than $15 per month if used properly (don't let them dry) and Juice for a moderate vapor probably no more than $45 per month for premium juices.

 

[dormouse]

BTW - if it makes a difference to you...

The Ego should only be $10 more there and the Ego is recessed around the shiny part where the button. That might make it easier for you to hold on to and it also means the button protector you can buy stays in place better (it can slide on a Riva)

This is a button protector for if you carry the battery in your pocket - keeps the battery from getting pressed in
Joye eGo Battery - Button Protector

 

[clark8876]

Hi Fiery and welcome.

+1 for dormouse's suggestion of the Riva with 510 cartos. Battery life will be important to you and the slightly larger size, than a standard 510, won't matter to you in a very short time.

 

[fiery1]

Another question. What kit would I buy if I decide on the eGo? While checking prices, I see several eGo starter kits. At Liberty Flights, for instance, there are the eGo-T650 mAh and T900 mAh; the eGo-510 Special Starter Kit (with 2 full units for 39.99); and eGo-510 Standard starter kits. Both of the eGo 510 kits have the 650 mAh, but no 1,000mAh batteries. I don't think I'd like the tank-style, if it's bulkier.

 

[CBB]

I don't think you would want to go with a tank, particularly not with poor fine motor skills you would probably have an easier time with cartomizers. The 650 900 and 1000mAh is a measure of charge capacity, I am a heavy vaper I have 750mAh batteries and they last me at least 5 hours. The eGo ECF special starter kit is a good value and should do you fine.

 

[Tynesider]

I bought a bisic 510 from a UK seller, I'm not sure if its the same as the joye but it looks the same.

 

[ropetrick]

I started in September with a 510 kit, bought a second for spare parts. Lately I've been thinking about getting a Riva (eGo clone), but I'm not sure I need it. Some important notes:

a. I still have the original batteries, and they work fine. I carry 4 standard 510 batteries and have never once gotten to the fourth.

b. I use a passthrough during the day, which drastically cuts down my dependence on batteries, and is probably why I haven't moved to an eGo-style PV yet.

c. One of my 510 kits was definitely a knockoff, and possibly both. They seem fine, though there was a slight difference in atomizer diameter.

d. I strongly recommend cartos. Having used them for a few months, I simply can't stand the atomizer/cart combination anymore.

I know I'm not addressing your points directly, but I'm obviously unqualified to. Still, thought the opinions might be of value in your situation.

 

[ropetrick]

By the way, I don't know but you might meet the criteria for the PIF emergency needs forum. Look over the instructions there and PM a moderator if it seems appropriate.

 

[Sainted_S]

I would also recommend the riva or eGo from Liberty Flights, the are basically the same, but the button on the eGo would probably work better for you. I would also take ropetrick's suggestion about the PIF forum because it is hard starting out with a very limited income and it is terrifying to think it may not work for you when you are investing more money than is comfortable for you. You aren't able to receive private messages yet, but you will be when your posts count increases.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Please make some more posts and/or make sure in your profile that you can receive pm...

thanks

sas

 

[fiery1]

I started in September with a 510 kit, bought a second for spare parts. Lately I've been thinking about getting a Riva (eGo clone), but I'm not sure I need it. Some important notes:

a. I still have the original batteries, and they work fine. I carry 4 standard 510 batteries and have never once gotten to the fourth.

b. I use a passthrough during the day, which drastically cuts down my dependence on batteries, and is probably why I haven't moved to an eGo-style PV yet.

c. One of my 510 kits was definitely a knockoff, and possibly both. They seem fine, though there was a slight difference in atomizer diameter.

d. I strongly recommend cartos. Having used them for a few months, I simply can't stand the atomizer/cart combination anymore.

I know I'm not addressing your points directly, but I'm obviously unqualified to. Still, thought the opinions might be of value in your situation.

I'm still a little...oh, why lie?...very confused about cartos. As for passthroughs...I don't want to take a chance on frying my 'puter with a USB hook-up, but they must make one that plugs into a wall outlet, right?

 

[fiery1]

By the way, I don't know but you might meet the criteria for the PIF emergency needs forum. Look over the instructions there and PM a moderator if it seems appropriate.

I would also recommend the riva or eGo from Liberty Flights, the are basically the same, but the button on the eGo would probably work better for you. I would also take ropetrick's suggestion about the PIF forum because it is hard starting out with a very limited income and it is terrifying to think it may not work for you when you are investing more money than is comfortable for you. You aren't able to receive private messages yet, but you will be when your posts count increases.

Thanks, you two. I had no idea that there was anything like that, but even if I don't qualify, it's nice to know there are people who can benefit from it. I'll check it out as soon as I figure out where it is.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

I'm still a little...oh, why lie?...very confused about cartos. As for passthroughs...I don't want to take a chance on frying my 'puter with a USB hook-up, but they must make one that plugs into a wall outlet, right?

As long as it has the usb you can plug into any usb port.....computer, wall, car charger........And I have been using eGo passthroughs for the past 7-8 months, and plug them into my computer and wall sockets without any problems what-so-ever.........not sure why some have had problems with them....

You still need a couple of more posts to get your count up.....I wanted to make a pif to you ......make sure in your setting that you have chosen to receive private messinges.

sas

 

[fiery1]

Please make some more posts and/or make sure in your profile that you can receive pm...

thanks

sas

Thanks, Sugar. I'll do that! I checked all my settings, but didn't see anything specifically about receiving PM's. Is that the one about the vcf downloads? This forum and it's settings is different from other forums I am on. Wish my grandson was here...he's 15, so he knows everything about EVERYthing.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Fiery1, look at your settings....under general setting, about the third box down, gives an option to receive private messenging. It should already be on but you could check.

sas

 

[ropetrick]

As long as it has the usb you can plug into any usb port.....computer, wall, car charger........And I have been using eGo passthroughs for the past 7-8 months, and plug them into my computer and wall sockets without any problems what-so-ever.........not sure why some have had problems with them....

Just note that some "wall warts" don't have the amperage to drive a passthrough. My iPhone one seems to always work, and I think it's rated about 1 amp. Many chargers are half that, and do not work. Check the specs on the passthrough to see what amperage is required. Madvapes, incidentally, sells an AC-to-USB wall plug that's described as perfect for passthroughs, and I think it's around 2 amps.

 

[Sugar_and_Spice]

Hello Ropetrick,
Yes, I recommend a 5 volt 2 amp charger for the wall and the car and have both.....I don't use a laptop, I have one server and a tower and use those usb ports that don't give me any problems...maybe that is the difference?

You can also get a wall charger and a car charger at wal-mart...just check the volts. I have a couple of them...again, no problems

sas