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These sorts of trends are never linear. Look at them longer-term and notice the substantial reversal in the mid 1990s.
Even at 27.5% (past 30 days), the use of vapes is lower than smoking was a scant 15 years ago. I'm sorry, but the only way I see this being much of a problem is if the busybodies in government kill off the clean, close to harmless form of nicotine known as vaping and thereby cause a considerable fraction of those younger folks who are now vaping to take up smoking.
For sure, smoking rates have gone down dramatically since 1995, and most of the decline occurred prior to when e-cigarettes were a factor. No one disputes that. But that's not what we were discussing. We were discussing the role of Juul in the reversal of vaping numbers in youth. The numbers hit a high of 16 percent in 2014, and then plateaued at around 11 percent in 2015 and 2016. Enter Juul, and the number went back up astronomically to a rate of 27%. That's a steep increase from 11% to 27% in just two years. I don't think any one could argue that it's not primarily due to just one vendor.These sorts of trends are never linear. Look at them longer-term and notice the substantial reversal in the mid 1990s.
Even at 27.5% (past 30 days), the use of vapes is lower than smoking was a scant 15 years ago. I'm sorry, but the only way I see this being much of a problem is if the busybodies in government kill off the clean, close to harmless form of nicotine known as vaping and thereby cause a considerable fraction of those younger folks who are now vaping to take up smoking.
I am very happy there is a much less harmful form of nicotine around.
But look, almost every adult (other than some hyper religious folks, IDK a few who don't care to for various personal reasons) has imbibed an alcoholic beverage. While there are certainly arguments that responsible, moderate ETOH use is not harmful and may be beneficial.... In many cases the alcohol use is not always healthful the entire person's life, and well, no one is out there waving signs that previous non-alcohol drinkers should NOT have that first, fateful drink.
Me and my husband had the distinct pleasure of taking the kid for his first legal alcoholic beverage at some place (name, I forget) and he ate a huge meal and then just SUCKED down a beverage that was actually probably 3 shots. It was far from my kid's FIRST drink, but he had eaten a HUGE meal and he is not much of a drinker.
It was not particularly healthful (kid nearly puked) but he's a responsible drinker and usually drinks socially in small amounts. He's far less interested in alcohol now it's legal for him actually. Although, I believe he considers his dad a cautionary tale, etc.
I agree with Rossum, I think anyone legal should have access to nic if they want it. Nicotine ALSO has some beneficial effects, such as concentration, focus, perhaps avoiding the big A-- why should these benefits be restricted to ex smokers only?
IDK. Some countries, almost EVERYONE smoked, like Japan. Now, they are IQOSing it up, (if ever a product was more perfect for Japan for harm reduction that would have to be it.)
Freedom of choice means-- freedom of choice for EVERYONE. Including the dang teens who would have become life long smokers.
I got no beef with Juul, although the infographics and stuff are interesting. If Juul "Gave back" to its now more alert, focused and less stinky teens, GOOD for them. Walmart (who has consistently destroyed communities) gives back..
Go for it Juul, say I. The teens all KNOW. They know already. It's done. I say Juul should sponsor education all it WANTS god knows the school systems nee the help! Juul, who has provided and marketed a product which is wildly successful probably has MORE to teach than, ah, common core.
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But look, almost every adult (other than some hyper religious folks, IDK a few who don't care to for various personal reasons) has imbibed an alcoholic beverage. While there are certainly arguments that responsible, moderate ETOH use is not harmful and may be beneficial.... In many cases the alcohol use is not always healthful the entire person's life, and well, no one is out there waving signs that previous non-alcohol drinkers should NOT have that first, fateful drink.
Me and my husband had the distinct pleasure of taking the kid for his first legal alcoholic beverage at some place (name, I forget) and he ate a huge meal and then just SUCKED down a beverage that was actually probably 3 shots. It was far from my kid's FIRST drink, but he had eaten a HUGE meal and he is not much of a drinker.
It was not particularly healthful (kid nearly puked) but he's a responsible drinker and usually drinks socially in small amounts. He's far less interested in alcohol now it's legal for him actually. Although, I believe he considers his dad a cautionary tale, etc.
I agree with Rossum, I think anyone legal should have access to nic if they want it. Nicotine ALSO has some beneficial effects, such as concentration, focus, perhaps avoiding the big A-- why should these benefits be restricted to ex smokers only?
IDK. Some countries, almost EVERYONE smoked, like Japan. Now, they are IQOSing it up, (if ever a product was more perfect for Japan for harm reduction that would have to be it.)
Freedom of choice means-- freedom of choice for EVERYONE. Including the dang teens who would have become life long smokers.
I got no beef with Juul, although the infographics and stuff are interesting. If Juul "Gave back" to its now more alert, focused and less stinky teens, GOOD for them. Walmart (who has consistently destroyed communities) gives back..
Go for it Juul, say I. The teens all KNOW. They know already. It's done. I say Juul should sponsor education all it WANTS god knows the school systems nee the help! Juul, who has provided and marketed a product which is wildly successful probably has MORE to teach than, ah, common core.
Anna
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