I just heard about e cig. and it sounds awesome. There seems to be so many companies selling this I don't really know where to begin. Is there anyway to try it first? I'm concerned because I tried the nicotene inhaler before and I couldn't use it all. It was so strong and tasted terrible. Like inhaling pepper. What is this I'm reading about e cigs burning your throat? Does anyone know how long these have been around and how extensively they've been tested? I also saw that there maybe some legislation coming up regarding them. What's that all about? I don't want to start something just to have it taken away! Any help advice would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
Thinking about trying/buying e cig.
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I understand completely. I had seen a story on them in our local paper, but never took the plunge because I wanted to try first. Fortunately, I ran into a couple of local distributors here (Tacoma, WA), and they let me try it. I knew right then that I wanted this! Where do you live? I know there's a guy on this forum who sells them in Seattle.[/quote]
I've never heard/experienced problems with that. If anything, we generally WANT what's known as a "throat hit," or a sensation similar to that of tobacco being inhaled.
You might want to check out the "Health and Safety" forum -- TONS of info there!
I know what you mean. Check out the "Campaigning" forum for latest news on that, and how you can help!
Cheers,
~~Cheryl
There are many good reveiws and how to video's on this forum you should check out. And some anti-smoking fanatics, out of ignorance and bias, are making attempts to get the FDA to ban them but that has not happened yet and there will probably be ways to continue to obtain supplies from other countries if the worst happens. If you want an alternative to analogs (cigs) that does not have the carcinogenic substances in analogs and also does not have the draw backs of inhalers, etc. then you should try this option. And it is way cheaper than analogs even though initially you will have to spend about $80-$100. Think about not having to spend $5.50 - $8.50 a pack for analogs. It is also the closes alternative to analogs ever invented to date. Here is a summary of my experence that might be helpful:
I read this forum and looked at older forum threads for two weeks before I purchased my first electronic vaporizer.
My first electronic vaporizer was a blue DSE901 from Phil at e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. Phil is a little more expensive than some suppliers but he provides a 3 month warranty instead of 14 days, gives you two atomizers instead of just one and provides a phone number where you can call him which most suppliers do not. Like all suppliers, the kit comes with two batteries and a charger. The battery will last about 2-3 hours before needing recharged although some users report getting 4-5 hours but that has not been my experience. His 901 starter kit is $69.95 where some other suppliers will sell them for $49.95 or $59.95 but without the extra’s that Phil provides. I would consider the DSE901 a good first purchase and it is about the size of a regular 100 cigarette. (If you purchase from Phil at e-smokey-treats.com, when it asks for a coupon code, use esmoking101 and you should get 10% off.)
Many users like the classic penstyle 801 model which has a larger atomizer and cart and a typical battery charge life of about 4-5 hours. The draw is lighter, more like a straw due to having 4 holes in the atomizer and the bigger cart. The 801 is larger and looks more like a big pen instead of regular cigarette. You can also purchase a USB pass-through for both the 901 and 801, which allows you to plug into a usb port on your computer and not have to worry about changing batteries. You can then purchase a portable battery pack for the usb pass-through such as this one from Kennsington (Kensington - Portable Power Pack for Select Mobile Devices - Black - K38021) and make your usb power portable. Make sure the power pack is at least 1000mAh power output.
Most users want an e-vap to provide the “throat hit” that is most like a real cigarette (analog as we call them) as well as long battery life. IMO, the only way to get that is to purchase a manual e-vape that allows you to push a button and heat up the atomizer more before you inhale. The one that does that the best is the screwdriver (SD) from trog at: - The ScrewDriver - An electronic cigarette that simply works. It is more expensive but it just can’t be beat for long battery life and throat hit. And my experience with trog has been outstanding. I have emailed him many times with questions and he almost always responds any where from 10 minutes to an hour or so.
IMO, the only way you will enjoy vaping is if you buy e-liquid or e-juice to refill your carts instead of use the prefilled cartridges that come with the starter kits. Plus it is way more cost effective. My favorite liquid to date is the riskee and cola flavors from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!. My recommendation is to get a little higher nicotine (nic) strength because you can always dilute it with USP glycerin that you can get at a drug store for $5 or $6. I use 24mg nic strength. The highest is 36mg and there is also 18, 11, 6 and 0. I also thought I would like the tobacco flavors the best, but in most cases, IMO, they don’t taste that similar to real tobacco. I do know that some forum members love e-smokey treats tobacco flavor, however.
Hope this helps and good luck.
PS: the smallest bottle of liquid is 10ml and usually costs $9.99. In general (everyone is different) you should get any where from 5-14 days out of that size bottle. And if you purchase from e-smokey treats, he usually does 10 cartridges instead of 5 which would give you another 5-10 days of vaping. In addition, you can wash out the fabric in the pre-filled cartridges and reuse them. The fabric is simply polyester batting which you can get enough for a year's worth for about $5 from Wal-Mart.
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Here is a little more information. This is a link that provides information on most models of electronic vaporizers:
E-Cigarette Models
I read this forum and looked at older forum threads for two weeks before I purchased my first electronic vaporizer.
My first electronic vaporizer was a blue DSE901 from Phil at e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. Phil is a little more expensive than some suppliers but he provides a 3 month warranty instead of 14 days, gives you two atomizers instead of just one and provides a phone number where you can call him which most suppliers do not. Like all suppliers, the kit comes with two batteries and a charger. The battery will last about 2-3 hours before needing recharged although some users report getting 4-5 hours but that has not been my experience. His 901 starter kit is $69.95 where some other suppliers will sell them for $49.95 or $59.95 but without the extra’s that Phil provides. I would consider the DSE901 a good first purchase and it is about the size of a regular 100 cigarette. (If you purchase from Phil at e-smokey-treats.com, when it asks for a coupon code, use esmoking101 and you should get 10% off.)
Many users like the classic penstyle 801 model which has a larger atomizer and cart and a typical battery charge life of about 4-5 hours. The draw is lighter, more like a straw due to having 4 holes in the atomizer and the bigger cart. The 801 is larger and looks more like a big pen instead of regular cigarette. You can also purchase a USB pass-through for both the 901 and 801, which allows you to plug into a usb port on your computer and not have to worry about changing batteries. You can then purchase a portable battery pack for the usb pass-through such as this one from Kennsington (Kensington - Portable Power Pack for Select Mobile Devices - Black - K38021) and make your usb power portable. Make sure the power pack is at least 1000mAh power output.
Most users want an e-vap to provide the “throat hit” that is most like a real cigarette (analog as we call them) as well as long battery life. IMO, the only way to get that is to purchase a manual e-vape that allows you to push a button and heat up the atomizer more before you inhale. The one that does that the best is the screwdriver (SD) from trog at: - The ScrewDriver - An electronic cigarette that simply works. It is more expensive but it just can’t be beat for long battery life and throat hit. And my experience with trog has been outstanding. I have emailed him many times with questions and he almost always responds any where from 10 minutes to an hour or so.
IMO, the only way you will enjoy vaping is if you buy e-liquid or e-juice to refill your carts instead of use the prefilled cartridges that come with the starter kits. Plus it is way more cost effective. My favorite liquid to date is the riskee and cola flavors from Puresmoker: PureSmoker.com - Your #1 Source For PV's, Parts, & Accessories!. My recommendation is to get a little higher nicotine (nic) strength because you can always dilute it with USP glycerin that you can get at a drug store for $5 or $6. I use 24mg nic strength. The highest is 36mg and there is also 18, 11, 6 and 0. I also thought I would like the tobacco flavors the best, but in most cases, IMO, they don’t taste that similar to real tobacco. I do know that some forum members love e-smokey treats tobacco flavor, however.
Hope this helps and good luck.
PS: the smallest bottle of liquid is 10ml and usually costs $9.99. In general (everyone is different) you should get any where from 5-14 days out of that size bottle. And if you purchase from e-smokey treats, he usually does 10 cartridges instead of 5 which would give you another 5-10 days of vaping. In addition, you can wash out the fabric in the pre-filled cartridges and reuse them. The fabric is simply polyester batting which you can get enough for a year's worth for about $5 from Wal-Mart.
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Here is a little more information. This is a link that provides information on most models of electronic vaporizers:
E-Cigarette Models
Well, you've got a few options.
First, some vendors are sprouting up with kiosk type stores, and you may have one near you. Those vendors tend to have higher prices and some are not the greatest in terms of quality, but if nothing else, it would give you a chance to try something without obligation.
Second, you can buy from an online vendor who offers a money-back satisfaction guarantee. One that immediately comes to mind is e-Smokey Treats - Electronic Cigarette's, The healthy alternative to traditional tobacco cigarette's. His prices tend to be a bit higher, but his warranty is better than the standard 14 days that most sellers offer. Plus, if you don't like it, you can return it within 14 days for a full refund. (The satisfaction guarantee is only 14 days, but the replacement warranty lasts for 3 months, if I remember right.)
Third, if you edit your profile to add where you're located, you might find a super friendly member who lives nearby and who would be willing to meet you and let you test drive some equipment over a cup of Starbucks. (Coffee is your treat, of course.
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Third, if you edit your profile to add where you're located, you might find a super friendly member who lives nearby and who would be willing to meet you and let you test drive some equipment over a cup of Starbucks. (Coffee is your treat, of course.
I'd agree with Julie here.
If you're not in the mood for meeting some stranger,
.... there are some disposable ecigs around. Disposable M-401 E-Cig, Disposable Electronic Cigarettes, Vapor Guys LLC
$12.99 plus shipping. These guys have a good rep on here and they actually take phone calls. Have read many members posts about how helpful they were. Could be worth a phone call.
Thanks everyone! I will check those sights. I live in mid to lower Michigan if anyone knows a store in this area. Is it hard to mix your own? Sounds like chemistry!lol
Shannon you could contact Katy at www.thesmokelessshop.com She is in Union Lakes MI, Not sure if that is close or not. I've personally done lots of business with her, all of it good.
There is some other suppliers on the forum who are in MI too, just can't remember which ones.
There is some other suppliers on the forum who are in MI too, just can't remember which ones.
Shannon-
I was hesistant about e-cigs as well. I tried out NJOY products and they were super helpful. I called them before placing my order and spoke to the owner for 30 minutes. He was very attentive and answered all my questions. What sold me on the NJOY brand was their 12 month warranty and the fact that I'd seen them in reputable retail locations (Pilot/TA truck stops and online at Costco and Target). Come to find out they also have colored lights on the batteries (blue, green, purple) which I hadn't found anywhere else as well as variety flavor packs so I could decided what I liked best (couldn't find these anywhere else either!!!). After all this my free shipping arrived in 2 or 3 days after I ordered!
I was hesistant about e-cigs as well. I tried out NJOY products and they were super helpful. I called them before placing my order and spoke to the owner for 30 minutes. He was very attentive and answered all my questions. What sold me on the NJOY brand was their 12 month warranty and the fact that I'd seen them in reputable retail locations (Pilot/TA truck stops and online at Costco and Target). Come to find out they also have colored lights on the batteries (blue, green, purple) which I hadn't found anywhere else as well as variety flavor packs so I could decided what I liked best (couldn't find these anywhere else either!!!). After all this my free shipping arrived in 2 or 3 days after I ordered!
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