Thoroughly confused... need some help.

[alink]

I have been reading on here for weeks and still am pretty confused. I have been using e-gigs for 5 weeks, still off of real cigs except when I go to the bar, then im a mooch! Heres my problem...
I bought an njoy NPRO... its alright , but I dont get alot of vapor out of it and its alittle big.
I bought a blu starter kit and am really disappointed in it... 1 battery only lasted a week before it stopped charging and working, tried cleaning it and still nothing. The other battery is getting harder to drag through and will probably fail soon. The cartomizers are expensive and are hit or miss if they are full or not.Battery life sucks as does the auto cut off...well im sure you all probably know this stuff already, so heres my question...
Can you guys recommend a kit that actually works well?
What I liked about the blu was the PCC and the size of the cig itself. I dont like that you cant refill them though and the battery life.

Im looking for a cig with longer battery life/charge. One that will work in a PCC. and one that I can refill or buy blank cartrages for. Also one thats more the size of a real cig. No auto cut off would be good too. Not activating in the wind would also be a plus

I was looking at the E-FOX and the PRO SMOKE ...but theres so many out there I dont know what to do and what will fit what im looking for. Also its hard to tell what reviews are real or planted.
I also want to get one of the bigger "cigar" ones for puffing on continuosly at home... was looking at the E-FOX eGO MEGA.
Can you guys steer me in a good direction? I would really appreciate it.

 

[saltysharktoes]

the volt from smokeless image is a good cig sized unit with a pcc, also most people don't buy prefilled cartos - it seems like thats what you were doing from what you said- we buy blank cartomizers and fill them up with juice

as for mid sized batteries - egos work great, kgos are great, echos are great if you want an automatic mid sized battery (you can run low resistance cartomizers on mid sized batteries and it will produce more/warmer vapor)

 

[tj99959]

Njoy = a lot of nothing for a lot of money. For the same $70 that an Njoy kit costs, you can find a bizillion good starter kits from a bizillion different vendors. You will not however find a good one at 7-11.
You might give this a shot.
eGo LR Cartomizer Kit

 

[juicejunky]

Check out Vapor4Life KR808-D1 selection, but wait for a sale to buy. Sign up or check their section of the forum for codes. They have lots of fans in their forum if you have questions.

They have quite a variety of stuff and the KR808 is a 4.2 off the charger down to 3.7 device. Longer cutoff times too. The passthru is 5V if you like to vape attached to a USB port or in your car. All use the same cartomizers. Not sure if their ejuice is the best, but not required to use their blanks.

 

[jenlepp]

I have to put in another vote for the Volt - some of the posts and the descriptions of this voltage and that thing make my eyes glaze over, but from the stories of what I could have bought with the low battery life and leakage, I can say that the Volt set up has never failed me or my husband, and we barely know what we're doing yet.

 

[layer]

Personally, I think every vapor newbie should start with at least an eGo. There are many better choices, but nothing less is worth messing with.

 

[PoliticallyIncorrect]

I'm looking for a cig with longer battery life/charge. One that will work in a PCC. and one that I can refill or buy blank cartridges for. Also one that's more the size of a real cig. No auto cut off would be good too. Not activating in the wind would also be a plus

To begin with, you'll have to recognize that longer battery life and more the size of a real cig are are in contradiction. If you want longer battery life, you'll have to get a physically larger device; if you want a cigarette-sized device, you'll have to get used to carrying a pocketful of batteries. Physics is physics.

Not activating in the wind means you're using an automatic-type device, as opposed to a manual. What that further tells me is than you're in that delicate, difficult period of transition from real cigarettes to an imposter, struggling to find one so much like your Marlboros or whatever that you could close your eyes, take a drag and not notice a difference.

You'll have to get past that. Vaping is never going to be a direct replacement. It's going to be an alternative.

I would suggest that you stop thinking in terms of E-Fox, Pro Smoke and all the other slick, commercialized, semi-ripoff rebrandings of the basic, generic models: 510, KR808D1, 901, etc.

Got like 30 minutes? Go here, and read DonDaBoomVape's The Wonderful World of Vaping: The ECF Library. There's 6 parts, but they're all short and eye-opening.

 

[Retriever]

+1 for the Volt. They have recently come out with larger eGo-sized batteries. The horizontal coil placement makes great vapor!

 

[Caelius Felix]

For something with a cigarette form factor, a mega-sized 510 or KR808D-1 battery offers decent battery life. Get manual, not automatic, batteries for more vapor and user control. Batteries and blank cartomizers are pretty cheap at some of the larger vendors, like MadVapes or LiteCigUSA. You can buy stuff a la carte instead of in a kit to avoid getting items you already have or don't really need. And blank cartos give you a chance to try various quality juices you wouldn't normally find in pre-filled cartos. The number of options and vendors can be intimidating, but ECF is a wonderful source of info.

 

[DC2]

+1 for the Volt. They have recently come out with larger eGo-sized batteries. The horizontal coil placement makes great vapor!

I am very close to recommending this setup to a new vaper due to the factors you cite.

But do they have a cone for those fat batteries?
Because I can't find one on their website.

 

[mg7454]

If you want an e-cig that is the size of a cigarette,
This is a great Kit!
On sale until midnight, April 3...everything!
These are the 808D-1 e-cigs, lots of colors!
(If you want a 510, check out the "Element" at the same site.)
I suggest the Manual,
which eliminates the pre-puff & wind-activation of automatics.
For a longer battery life, get the 78mm!
The 808D-1s give a better flavor to e-liquids than 510s,
IMO.

G6 Basic Starter Kit - G6 E-Cig

I suggest XL Clearomizers which hold 1.8 mL of e-liquids, you can check them
out here...

KR808D1 Ultimate CE2 Clearomizer XL

You will need a fill kit, these have metal blunt needles
(some have plastic).

KR808D1 Ultimate CE2 Clearomizer XL

If you want to go to eGos, I suggest a genuine JoyeTech, Pass-through and XL Clearomizers.
Do not use a Pass-through battery with your computer, always get an AC/USB wall plug-in so that you do not fry your mother-board.
I love the pass-through batterys because you can vape while the battery charges and when fully charged,
unplug the USB cord
and put the cap on the bottom of the battery
and go "wireless"
(with 650 mAh battery, you can go approximately 6 hours).

Stick with the vaping, the stinkies will kill you!
As you regain your taste,
you will find lots of delicious flavors are available.
You will probably not find an e-liquid that tastes like a cigarette;
they taste bad anyway!

Happy Vaping!


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[sailorman]

First off, in 2012 there is no reason to get a Joyetech eGo with it's anemic 3.4V output and dinky 650mah battery. That was a nice unit 2 years ago, but things have advanced. A lot.

There are plenty of similar models that can do anything an eGo can do, but better and for less $$, including some from Joyetech itself.
The kGo and e-Power are just 2 PV's that are better than the eGo in every way. There are others. They have a true 4.2-3.7V output and you don't have to worry about killing them with a 1.5ohm carto as has been reported to happen with a 650mAh eGo battery. The batteries last longer, have a longer lifespan and, in the case of the e-Power, are standard lithium types you can replace of $6 instead of the $15-20 it will cost you to replace an eGo battery.

Secondly, if you use an eGo Passthrough model on your computer USB, you will NOT fry your motherboard. With that kind of passthrough, you are not drawing 2 amps or more as you would be with a straight 5V passthrough. You are simply charging a 3.7V battery at 500ma or less, just as you would with a standard eGo USB charger. In general, it is safer to use an AC/USB charger simply because of the unreliable electronics on some chargers and PV's. But to say you'll fry your motherboard is a gross exaggeration.

Thirdly, Big, Blue, Obnoxious type does not provide credibility.

 

[Caridwen]

Whatever floats your boat. Higher voltage isn't a 'must' for everyone. Some people don't mind the lower but constant output of a joye battery. Others are ok with a hotter initial vape but shorter charge life and constant reduction in voltage over time.
While I usually get higher voltage batteries, I have to say that Joye batteries have all lasted longer than any batteries I've owned. Plus I've never had battery issues with Joye batteries the way I have with other batteries before they died. Up until very recently LF guaranteed their Joye batteries for 6 months while their other batteries had a 3 month warranty. Now they both have two. But I wouldn't say Joye batteries are a bad choice if that's what you like.

 

[mg7454]

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...if you use an eGo Passthrough model on your computer USB, you will NOT fry your motherboard. With that kind of passthrough, you are not drawing 2 amps or more as you would be with a straight 5V passthrough. You are simply charging a 3.7V battery at 500ma or less, just as you would with a standard eGo USB charger. In general, it is safer to use an AC/USB charger simply because of the unreliable electronics on some chargers and PV's. But to say you'll fry your motherboard is a gross exaggeration.

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-mods-discussion/278948-how-safe-usb-2-0-passthrough-vv-pc-2.html#post5633066

That's all I'm sayin'!​

 

[sailorman]

Your right. eGo isn't bad per se. It's just that they're not the only kid on the block any more. The idea of regulation was to smooth out the voltage drop on a 650mah battery. For a battery that size, it's a good idea. But with the larger batteries, it isn't necessary. You'd notice the relatively sharp drop on a 650mah over a 6 hour period if it wasn't regulated and you wouldn't get such a great vape with anything over 2 or 2.5ohms. With a 1300mah battery, you can go 6 hours with a 3ohm carto and never fall below 3.7V. You don't really notice a big difference from 4.2 to 3.7 or 3.8V. on a big battery because it happens so gradually. That's not the case with a 650mah battery. So the quality of vape is maintained a whole heckuva lot longer with a larger battery.

 

[sailorman]

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-mods-discussion/278948-how-safe-usb-2-0-passthrough-vv-pc-2.html#post5633066

That's all I'm sayin'!​

It's as safe as recharging a battery on a USB PC port. It doesn't matter that it's a VV. You're charging a battery, not drawing power for your atty.

It's not the ultimate in safety. Your charging circuit could fail or something. But so could your charger and so could anything else you have connected to a USB port, including your iPhone, mp3 player or external hard drives.

The idea of not using a passthrough on a PC was because most passthroughs relied on the power of the USB port. They had no battery at all and USB ports aren't generally designed to supply 2 amps of current. Your eGo passthrough has a charging circuit inside and it's just like if you plugged a regular USB charger in. It draws 500ma or less, which is the USB 2.0 standard current specification.

 

[mg7454]

It's not the ultimate in safety. Your charging circuit could fail or something. But so could your charger and so could anything else you have connected to a USB port, including your iPhone, mp3 player or external hard drives.

That is my point!
If you are using an AC/USB wall-plug,
you certainly won't fry your computer!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/variable-voltage-mods-discussion/278948-how-safe-usb-2-0-passthrough-vv-pc-2.html#post5633066

I have several JoyeTech eGo pass-throughs;
and,
while I am home or in my truck, I use an AC/USB power-plug
(independent of the computer)
for a consistently great vape!
I happen to like 3.7, and personally have no desire to get a VV PV!

However,
I was responding to a new e-cig user who is already confused & disappointed!
I am trying to point out a solution in which there will be less cause for
frustration & further confusion!

Like I said:
Happy Vaping!

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[ambeck22]

I've been very happy with my Volcano purchases but a big plus with them is they have a place in my mall 3 miles away from the house, so I don't have to wait or pay for shipping. Their cig-like kits are the Volcano and the Magma (I got the Magma) and both of those come with PCC if you buy the starter kit. Their bigger battery is the Inferno and THAT starter kit includes a pass-through. Their VV is the Lavatube. Volcano company is my comfort zone right now, but I buy cartos and juice from other places to branch out a bit.

 

[Strigoi]

Thirdly, Big, Blue, Obnoxious type does not provide credibility.

I can't even read it on my screen (37" Samsung LCD) against the black skin that I use for this forum. It is obnoxious.

 

[sailorman]

That is my point!
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You asked a specific question. I answered it.
Please don't shout.
It's no less rude just because you're not using all caps.