Throat hit with 100% VG?

[schotzky]

I like 100% VG juice diluted with some distilled water if necessary. I don't trust Propylene Glycol. If the juice is 100% VG at 18mg of nicotine, will there still be a throat it?

 

[yzer]

Yes, depending on the nicotine concentration. 18 mg nicotine in 95/5 VG/H2O has a mild TH when vaporized at seven watts. A higher wattage will bump the TH up a bit. You won't be able to vaporize 100% VG with anything that uses a filler or wick. 100% Glycerin USP is just too thick to work in these devices. It must be thinned with something first.

 

[schotzky]

Yes, depending on the nicotine concentration. 18 mg nicotine in 95/5 VG/H2O has a mild TH when vaporized at seven watts. A higher wattage will bump the TH up a bit. You won't be able to vaporize 100% VG with anything that uses a filler or wick. 100% Glycerin USP is just too thick to work in these devices. It must be thinned with something first.

I am planning on using distilled water. I might make it a 95/5 ration of VG/PG. Just a little PG for throat it.

 

[skoot]

Yes, depending on the nicotine concentration. 18 mg nicotine in 95/5 VG/H2O has a mild TH when vaporized at seven watts. A higher wattage will bump the TH up a bit. You won't be able to vaporize 100% VG with anything that uses a filler or wick. 100% Glycerin USP is just too thick to work in these devices. It must be thinned with something first.

I vape 100% VG in a Vivi Nova just fine. With the lower resistance head (I think it's 1.8?) there is plenty of throat hit.

 

[yzer]

Keep in mind that I use 95/5 VG/H2O with cartos. You may want to thin more with clearos or other devices that use wicks.

 

[yzer]

I vape 100% VG in a Vivi Nova just fine. With the lower resistance head (I think it's 1.8?) there is plenty of throat hit.

That's great. Are you using no flavoring or all VG-based flavors?

 

[DaFreeK]

The more nicotine you have, the stronger the TH is. PG has a bigger TH then VG, but the nic is the main part of TH. I vape 9mg and have plenty of TH. I use ~87%VG with 10% distilled water and the rest is flavour.


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[schotzky]

Awesome, thanks guys.

 

[skoot]

Right now I'm using Virgin Vapor's 100% VG Absolute Virgin line, they say all of their flavors are PG free and alcohol free.

 

[DaFreeK]

I read somewhere that the owner of Atmos lab, who is a chemist, said that you have to put at least 5% distilled water into a VG juice, not for the thickness of the juice, but the flavour wouldn't mix properly with 100% VG.


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[yzer]

Right now I'm using Virgin Vapor's 100% VG Absolute Virgin line, they say all of their flavors are PG free and alcohol free.

DIY mixers know that flavoring easily accounts for up to 15% of a pre-mixed e-liquid by volume. Maybe Virgin Vapor will tell you what bases they use for their non-PG flavors. All they are saying is it's not PG or alcohol.

 

[skoot]

That makes sense. Honestly I don't get a lot of flavor from the Nova. Flavor was much better with the craptastic 510 carts, I just couldn't stand filling them every 15 minutes.

 

[skoot]

DIY mixers know that flavoring easily accounts for up to 15% of a pre-mixed e-liquid by volume. Maybe Virgin Vapor will tell you what bases they use for their non-PG flavors. All they are saying is it's not PG or alcohol.

Yeah, they don't say on the site. I sent an email and will post back when I hear.

 

[yzer]

I vape a little more than 2 ml per day. I use 2.0 ohm XL sized cartos and top them off after about 90 minutes of vape time. Using a carto tank eliminates the need for frequent topping off.

 

[skoot]

Yup, I have an ibtank and carts on order. Seems the best way to get flavor and capacity.

 

[schotzky]

So say I do want a little bit of PG, say a 90/10 or an 80/20 VG/PG mix. Would it be wise to get a PG based nicotine solution and then use VG for the rest? But say I am making 100 Ml of juice at 18 mg of nicotine, that means 36% of the juice would be PG.

 

[skoot]

I got a reply from Virgin, the flavors in the Virgin Absolute line are pure extracts in a VG base.

 

[yzer]

I got a reply from Virgin, the flavors in the Virgin Absolute line are pure extracts in a VG base.

That's interesting. The next time I crack open a bottle of Glycerin USP I'll try vaping it straight in a new carto to see what happens. I should be mixing up a new batch of 30 ml bottles in a few days.

 

[skoot]

I'm interested to see too, I have a cartotank setup coming. I've heard good things about them with 100% VG and two holes punched. The filler's the same though.

 

[bugler]

I do all vg+ flavoring mixes in wick based clearos like kanger t2, t3, ce4 no problem. Of course I'm ending up anywhere from 15-25% of whatever the flavor is diluted in, and assuming it's most often pg, my calculator tells me most juices are around 80% vg. I have started playing with adding water, but it's certainly not needed if using flavors, at least non-vg flavors, no wicking problems or flavor complaints and I'm comparing to a pheonix dripping atty. The pheonix might have a bit of an edge, but not enough for me to really notice...