Throat irritation with 100% VG?

[Strawberries]

Alright, so I started vaping yesterday with 100% VG liquid, also presumably free of dyes/artificial flavors or mostly so.
Using the Evod VV battery.

My throat is pretty irritated - like I can cough easily, dry as if I had just inhaled a lot of smoke. If I inhaled much vapor at all I could easily go into a coughing fit.

At some point during the vaping, I did seem to burn my throat once, but I feel like the irritation started before that. Though I'm sure it didn't help.

I used to be somewhat of a heavy smoker (the vaping is for fun, not to quit) and was used to taking pretty long drags etc, maybe I'm taking too long/hard of a pull? I wasn't even really inhaling much though, and I don't want to be taking tiny puffs either lol.

I was also drinking a fair amount of fluids. Mostly water.

Any ideas?

 

[VapoKev]

For me, coughing seems to be related to a number of possibilities: The flavor, the nicotine content, the relation of battery voltage to atomizer resistance, and the length of the draw. If I'm vaping something that makes me cough, taking shorter draws seems to be the fix, at least for me.

 

[k702]

IF you're using 100% VG you're not gonna wick that quick. meaning you could be getting dry hits and not know it.

 

[edyle]

Alright, so I started vaping yesterday with 100% VG liquid, also presumably free of dyes/artificial flavors or mostly so.
Using the Evod VV battery.

My throat is pretty irritated - like I can cough easily, dry as if I had just inhaled a lot of smoke. If I inhaled much vapor at all I could easily go into a coughing fit.

At some point during the vaping, I did seem to burn my throat once, but I feel like the irritation started before that. Though I'm sure it didn't help.

I used to be somewhat of a heavy smoker (the vaping is for fun, not to quit) and was used to taking pretty long drags etc, maybe I'm taking too long/hard of a pull? I wasn't even really inhaling much though, and I don't want to be taking tiny puffs either lol.

I was also drinking a fair amount of fluids. Mostly water.

Any ideas?

You're burning vg and getting acrolein.

whats your setup, voltage, ohms, hardware.

And if you started vaping yesterday, please try some 50/50 PG/VG liquid to start with.
Vaping high vg has it's own complications and it's easier if you have experience first.

 

[LoveVanilla]

This is common in DIY if you don't thin the VG. This is because it's so viscous it doesn't wick well and you end up with hot/burnt hits. Wonder if this is your case? If your wick is clean, try thinning the tank with a couple drops of distilled water. If your wick looks gunked, rinse under running water and dry -- or replace.

 

[Simply Red]

Coughing is probably the most common symptom of tobacco smoking cessation. The severity and duration may depend on how heavy a smoker you were before switching, and how many cigarettes are smoked while transitioning to vaping.

Tobacco withdrawal produces a sore throat in some people. It is unknown why this occurs but perhaps cigarette smoke ingredients have some sort of preventative or anesthetic effect, and stop the throat becoming sore during cigarette use, which it is easy to see could cause it.

Lastly, not all eliquids are created equal. Most liquids I've seen/used have artificial flavorings and are PG based.

 

[DejayRezme]

I think VG eliquids have 80% VG and 20% distilled water.

 

[Strawberries]

I have an Evod VV battery and the Mini Protank II.
The juice isn't DIY, it's from Dripeez. I would assume that they add water.
There's no nicotine in the juice I've been using.

I *used* to be a somewhat heavy smoker, but that was years ago. I haven't actually smoked for months. Just a cig on the rare occasion over the past couple years.

Is the number at the bottom of the battery the volts? If so, I've been experimenting with maybe between 3.3-3.6 volts. Just turned it down to 3.2 though which is as low as it goes.

Before I started, I did some "dry pulls" to get the wicks ready, and (later on) only experienced a dry/burning sensation once or twice, I think maybe once when I turned it up too high just messing around with it. Besides those one or two times I don't think I'm getting dry hits? If there's vapor coming out and it's not a burning/metallic taste or hot, it's probably not a dry hit right?

Just turn the volts down, throat still feels irritated.

Didn't know even a simple setup like this would be so complex.

If it's useful information...the throat irritation is extremely similar to when I used to smoke a herbaceous unmentionable and took really long, deep "drags" (years ago now) and I went into coughing fits with it. Except this feels more persistent.

 

[Old and Grey]

Have not coughed since I quit smoking.

 

[edyle]

I have an Evod VV battery and the Mini Protank II.
The juice isn't DIY, it's from Dripeez. I would assume that they add water.
There's no nicotine in the juice I've been using.

I *used* to be a somewhat heavy smoker, but that was years ago. I haven't actually smoked for months. Just a cig on the rare occasion over the past couple years.

Is the number at the bottom of the battery the volts? If so, I've been experimenting with maybe between 3.3-3.6 volts. Just turned it down to 3.2 though which is as low as it goes.

Before I started, I did some "dry pulls" to get the wicks ready, and (later on) only experienced a dry/burning sensation once or twice, I think maybe once when I turned it up too high just messing around with it. Besides those one or two times I don't think I'm getting dry hits? If there's vapor coming out and it's not a burning/metallic taste or hot, it's probably not a dry hit right?

Just turn the volts down, throat still feels irritated.

Didn't know even a simple setup like this would be so complex.

If it's useful information...the throat irritation is extremely similar to when I used to smoke a herbaceous unmentionable and took really long, deep "drags" (years ago now) and I went into coughing fits with it. Except this feels more persistent.

The trouble with burning some vg on your coil is you can end up continuing to get a burnt taste for a long time on that coil.
If you have a spare coil, you can try swaping out the coil, and only start from low voltage and raise is only gradually..

An important technique to remember is to hold the mouthpiece up to your ear and press the fire button and listen to the sound; you'll get to know what its supposed to sound like.

Don't dump the old coils; they can be recoiled, rewicked, or partially rewicked - with cotton.

I think your throat might need a few days rest;

If your liquid actually looks and feels visibly thick, a few drops of water added to the tank might make a big difference.

I find myself adjusting my power level according to how well my wick is wicking; sometimes I run at 3 watts, and sometimes as high as 7-8 watts. After serveral months experience running the same tanks, same coils, pretty much same liquids, I know the taste;

 

[edyle]

The trouble with burning some vg on your coil is you can end up continuing to get a burnt taste for a long time on that coil.
If you have a spare coil, you can try swaping out the coil, and only start from low voltage and raise is only gradually..

An important technique to remember is to hold the mouthpiece up to your ear and press the fire button and listen to the sound; you'll get to know what its supposed to sound like.

Don't dump the old coils; they can be recoiled, rewicked, or partially rewicked - with cotton.

I think your throat might need a few days rest;

If your liquid actually looks and feels visibly thick, a few drops of water added to the tank might make a big difference.

I find myself adjusting my power level according to how well my wick is wicking; sometimes I run at 3 watts, and sometimes as high as 7-8 watts. After serveral months experience running the same tanks, same coils, pretty much same liquids, I know the taste;

Yes, the numbers on the bottom is the voltage.
The power to the coil is volts x volts / ohms.
That ought to work out something like 5.

To prime a dry coil on a miniprotank, you can block the two airholes with two fingers and suck on the mouthpiece to draw liquid into the coil; when you release, you might see an air bubble rise up in the tank to equalise the pressure.

 

[icemanistheking]

I don't usually have this problem, but Boba's Bounty from AV (80% VG) dries my throat out badly in 1-2 hits with higher voltages. I like the juice a lot, but have gotten to where I only take a couple puffs at a time because of that.

Also, this is probably not the case with you but maybe something to consider - I have some anxiety issues, and when I am feeling anxious, vaping irritates my throat much, much easier for some reason - have to take smaller hits, hold the vape for less time, etc.

 

[JeremyR]

Sounds like your getting dry hits. It's terrible and a new vaper doesn't notice it, that's the burnt taste your getting.

Or your just adjusting to the vaping, but with vg it shouldn't be as drying or irritating as pg.

Make sure when you fire the coil you hear a nice sizzle with a slight popping. That way you know the wick is wet, should be
More flavorful if you were in fact getting dry hits.

 

[edyle]

One thing you should do is put the base with atomizer on the battery without the tank, take off the top spire with a pliers (rock side to side to take it out), carefully remove the top wicks with tweezers, , look at the coil, and press the fire button and watch what happens;

if you get a burning smoky think that makes you want to choke, there is burnt gunnk on the coil wire and you need to dry burn it to get it off; if you continue to burn it the coil will eventually go dry and start to glow red; it could also burn out if you have the voltage too high.

knowing what that smells like is usefull in case you get that taste when you vape, so you understand what is going on.

(i usually set my mod to 3 watts to dry burn safely without popping the coil; at 2 ohms that works out to be 2.4 volts)

 

[isande]

I coughed quite a lot when I first started vaping (while still smoking, alternating between the two). It stopped within a few days without changing a thing. I suspect your throat just needs time to adjust.

What worked for me was limiting the length of drags and how deeply I inhaled at first until it went away. I can take long drags and inhale deeply if I wish now and only ever cough with a very few flavors that are particularly harsh (for me).

Good luck!



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[Strawberries]

Thanks for the responses. Yeah, it's really concerning, like I haven't vaped anything for hours (and only took maybe 4 or 5 pulls this morning), and my throat is STILL bothering me pretty badly. It's not so much a sore throat, it's like my throat feels out of breath. If I do a fake/test cough it feels shallow and odd.

Mind you, again, this is without nicotine and I haven't smoked for quite some time. If I do smoke a cig on the rare occasion it doesn't do this to me.

It was definitely making a pop/sizzle noise. And I only got the burnt thing once, the rest of the time it felt nice and smooth...

Unfortunately, since it's not a sore throat, I can't even just use a cough drop...ugh

I definitely am not going to vape for at least a few days, and when/if I do I'll be more careful, and look at everything very closely. Seemed to be working fine though.

I wasn't anxious at all while vaping, was very relaxed. Although I'm feeling a little anxious now, lol.

*also want to mention the throat thing is def not from anxiety. very clearly unrelated, it's been like this all day/night and it went down some overnight then got worse again after vaping a little this morning. I've been ignoring it but now that it's been going on all day I'm getting irritated

 

[JeremyR]

Oh and welcome to the forum!

Ok then the next thing to move to is the juice. What kind are you using specifically. Are there components in it that are irritating to you, meaning you don't agree with it.

I know that lots of us go through various stages of adjusting to the ecig. My issue was tooth pain then it subsided just when I thought it wasn't going to.

*
Reading your posts again... I just thought of this.. You just started vaping right... Are you drawing on it like a cigarette, taking the vapor right into your lungs? That is not good when you first start vaping. Your body has to adjust to it.

The proper way to start vaping is to smoke it like its a cigar. Do not inhale just pull into your mouth. the nic will absorb just like a cigar. Blow out of your nose if possible.. Do this for a week or longer. After your mouth and sinuses are adjusted and used to that, smoke it like a cigar then a short inhale into your lungs and release. This is how you should vape.

 

[LoveVanilla]

Another thought -- and I've experienced this. You certainly can be allergic to some flavoring/ingredients. I found one that contained inflamed my throat, lungs and sinuses; took three or four days to clear. I stopped using the two new juices I'd vaped and switched to ones not causing me issues. After a couple weeks (and benadryl on hand) I took small mouth hits and the problem was clearly with one juice; and subsequently found the juice contained essential oils. You might also want to try a different juice and supplier to rule out such possibilities.

 

[escapingfate]

^^ this
I had a small reaction to a flavoring due to a sensitivity to that particular oil

 

[edyle]

If you only just started vaping there are symptoms known to occur when people stop smoking cigarettes such as more coughing initially; stuff from the lungs tends to come up.

If you've also gone down to 0 nic, then there's also going to be the symptoms of nicotine withdrawal.

Perhaps you're doing too much too fast.