Time to move up - would appreciate suggestions

[tada]

I started with Mistics that I got at Walmart. Not bad, good flavor, but expensive cartomizers.

Then I went with a Volt from Smokeless Image. Worked good. Tried the Smooth Sampler pack of tobacco flavors. Desert Joe and Cowboy were pretty good. But RY4, Freedom, and 555 were absolutely disgusting.

So now, I'm looking to upgrade to a better kit and flavors. What would you all recommend. A KGO or eGO, a tank, etc? I think I would like something would good battery life, and something that can use liquid easily.

I looked at this one: http://www.esmokerworld.com/kgo-tank-e-cigarette-starter-kits-with-20ml-e-liquids-p-247.html

I would appreciate your help.

 

[leftfeild]

I'd say a Kgo over an ego purely for the power difference in the kgo. If you're used to cartomisers, just grab some 510 cartomisers and bang them on the kgo and job done It's the same power as the volt batteries though, it's just going to last a lot longer between charges.

You can buy a cheap 510 - 808/901 adapter to use with the kgo as well that means you can keep using the volt style cartomisers if you wish.

Why not dip a toe into VV and grab an ego twist? About the same size as you're looking for, just has a wider voltage range I'm sure you'd really like.

 

[sailorman]

Normally, I'd say a kGo, or e-Power over an eGo because of battery size/cost ratio and power.
You might want to look at the eGo-W since you're interested in tanks. It is a 3.7V e-cig with a tank that is actually decent and nothing like the ego-t or ego-c "systems". It's availble with battery sizes up to 1000mah as well, and it's got a very sleek appearance.

If you are comfortable with keeping a volt for regular use, you might look at the Twist. It's significantly longer than a normal eGo/kgo of the same battery capacity, and it only comes iwth one unit so, unless you charge overnight (bad idea), you'll need something else to use while you're charging it. It's a relatively low powered variable voltage, topping out at 4.8V, but it's cheap, disposable and works reasonably well.

IMO, though, if you want an econiomical intro to variable voltage, you'd be better off spending a little bit more and getting a full range non-disposable VV, like a Lavatube.

 

[Pappy]

I can't tell if that kit at esmokerworld.com is a standard KGO or not. It looks like it, but I'm confused as to why they call it a "tank". The price is certainly attractive, but I'm leary of it because of their extremely overblown claims about battery capacity, cartridge capacity, atomizer life, etc.

For my money, I'd go the safer route and buy the KGO kit from DarkCityVapor.com, hoosierEcig.com or sweetvapes.com. All of those are established trustworthy vendors that participate on this forum.

For the KGO, you will want the 1100mah battery version. There's a 650mah version, which you should avoid.

Regardless of which vendor you use, you will need to buy at last one 5-pack of cartomizers. The ones that come with the KGO kit are junk to be used only in dire emergencies. The ones you want are either the Smok-Tech XL LR (low resistance) 1.7ohm cartos or the Boge 2.0ohm LR cartos. Both of those are single-coil cartos - you do not want dual coils.

You will also want some drip tips. You don't HAVE to have them, but trust me when I tell you that you will WANT to have them.

The KGO uses a standard 510 connection. Whatever accessories you buy for it (cartomizers, atomizers, drip tips, etc.) you will want to make sure it fits a 510 thread pattern.

 

[tada]

What's your opinion on using Stardust Vision cartomizers with a kGo battery? They look like a good option to me.

 

[sailorman]

WARNING, WARNING, WARNING

DO NOT get that kit in your link. That is NOT a tank system. That is a stripped-down knockoff of a kgo which, ironically, is a kockoff itself. Those are not tanks. Those are the old-fashioned and obsolete cartridges. NOBODY uses those anymore. They are something we struggled with a few years ago and threw away immediately when cartomizers were invented.
Any website trying to pass of cartridges as "tanks" should be avoided and has SCAM written all over it.

If you want a decent kGo from a reputable vendor, try one of the kit selections from this one.
KGO

Or, this deal: Elite Vaporworks KGO Starter Kit with Boge LR Cartomizers - KGO

 

[sailorman]

What's your opinion on using Stardust Vision cartomizers with a kGo battery? They look like a good option to me.

That is a good combination. This link, from Sweet-vapes is a kit that includes two stardusts with the kGo.
You should still have an atomizer for testing juices though. Just pick one up, and a drip tip, separately.

http://www.sweet-vapes.com/shop?page=shop.product_details&flypage=vmj_color_plus.tpl&product_id=1033&category_id=31

 

[tj99959]

After first getting hooked on vaping using an eGo-T, I took a different approach. Mainly because I still had no idea what I would ultimately like and dislike. So I got a little 35$ VV box mod from madvapes so that I could try everything and anything. I think I tried every atty & carto known to man at the time at every power level you can imagine looking for the combination that was just right for me. In the end I found that there are all sorts of devices out there that satisfy my needs to a T, but the key was knowing what I liked before I started investing the family fortune on PV's.
Ultimately it won't matter much what PV you have, what matter is knowing how to set it up to get what you want

 

[Riverboat]

Buy a Provari and all your vaping needs will be met............

 

[tj99959]

Buy a Provari and all your vaping needs will be met............

It's a great PV, but I would suggest learning how to drive before buying a Ferrari.
The provari becomes just an expencive POS until you know what you like, and how to get there.

 

[Catfishy]

I am sorry but I have to add my !
The ProVari is absolutely by far the best. I love mine and I use cartos with a tank. They are pricey but worth it.
If you are on a budget another good one is available at springvapor.com called the Tsunami VV MOD
SV Tsunami VV MOD - Spring Vapor
Nik is quite approachable if you have questions.

 

[tada]

After first getting hooked on vaping using an eGo-T, I took a different approach. Mainly because I still had no idea what I would ultimately like and dislike. So I got a little 35$ VV box mod from madvapes so that I could try everything and anything. I think I tried every atty & carto known to man at the time at every power level you can imagine looking for the combination that was just right for me. In the end I found that there are all sorts of devices out there that satisfy my needs to a T, but the key was knowing what I liked before I started investing the family fortune on PV's.
Ultimately it won't matter much what PV you have, what matter is knowing how to set it up to get what you want

That looks like a good kit. Probably a good next stepping stone.

I have a few questions. On the options selection, it lets you choose between standard resistance cartomizers or low resistance. They add this note "We recommend SR 2.5-2.9 ohm Vision Ego Cartomizers for the higher voltage kgo batteries! ". What does a low resistance cartomizer buy you?

Also, on choosing juices. What does the different percentages of PG and VG mean? Does it effect taste, strength, or throat hit? And what is a cold shot?

I guess I should also buy additional cartomizers? What is the typical lifespan? And do you need a new one for each flavor you buy?

Thanks for all of the help and opinions.

I'm also looking at the SV Tsunami VV MOD - Spring Vapor that was recommended.

 

[sailorman]

That looks like a good kit. Probably a good next stepping stone.

I have a few questions. On the options selection, it lets you choose between standard resistance cartomizers or low resistance. They add this note "We recommend SR 2.5-2.9 ohm Vision Ego Cartomizers for the higher voltage kgo batteries! ". What does a low resistance cartomizer buy you?

A low resistance carto is best for low voltage batteries. It burns hotter and was invented to simulate vaping on a high voltage battery. Too hot of a carto or atomizer can make some juice taste burnt, or wash out the flavor. I don't necessarily agree that an ego is too high voltage for a lower resistance cartomizer, but to be on the safe side I'd take their recommendation. You might want to experiment with a 2ohm or 2.5ohm cartomizer in the future. There's a balance between too much heat, a lot of vapor, and preserving good flavor.

Also, on choosing juices. What does the different percentages of PG and VG mean? Does it effect taste, strength, or throat hit? And what is a cold shot?

High VG gives more vapor, mutes the throat hit and, to some degree, the flavor.
High PG gives less vapor but better flavor. Some people have a limited tolerance to PG and have problems with juice very high in PG.

The idea is to strike a balance. Most people prefer a VG content between 20% and 50%. 70%PG/30%VG is a common ratio.

I guess I should also buy additional cartomizers? What is the typical lifespan? And do you need a new one for each flavor you buy?

You shouldn't mix flavors in cartos. They last a good week or two if you don't let them run dry and burn them. You need to top them off every so often as you use them. you'll know when to drip a few drops in them because the vapor will weaken. A drip tip is handy for this, so you'll want a few of them. $20 stainless steel ones are not necessary. The $3 ones work just fine.

Thanks for all of the help and opinions....

YW

 

[Catfishy]

I'm gonna just sit back and read posts...
Sailorman has it covered and types way too fast for me...
Great explanation Sailorman! KUDOS!

 

[sailorman]

To clarify about the cartomizers. The 2.4-2.9ohm Vision ego Cartomizers that look clear and are in the pictures I linked to are technically "clearomizers". You don't need to top them off and you can rinse them out and change flavors.

Cartomizers are more like the cartridges you had with your other e-cig. They have a absorbent filling in them and need to be topped off periodically. They are not the clear plastic, but are either black or stainless steel. They come in boxes of 5 and are available in different resistances. If you get these type of cartomizers, I would recommend the 2.ohm Boge or the 1.7ohm Smoketech brands. These types are a lot less expensive than the clearomizers with the transparent tanks in the pictures.

 

[sailorman]

Here is a picture of a Kgo with cartomizers. They are the tubular black things on the bottom left. These are the kind that need to be topped off and you can't mix flavors in.

 

[sailorman]

Cold Shot = An additive sometimes added to juice to make it "cooler" almost, but not quite, like menthol.

 

[tada]

Thanks sailorman for the explanations. Thank you everyone for your help.

 

[martsumoto]

step up to a trusty mod like the silver bullet or the provape 1
later if you wish upgrade to variable voltage

 

[tada]

I went with the kit from Sweet-Vapes that sailorman recommended. I ordered two extra clearomizers, and five flavors of juice. Even found a 15% off coupon to use.

The variable voltage option looks good, but pricey right now.

Thanks again!