Tiramisu Coffee

[ddavelarsen]

This wasn't my idea; a friend gave me her recipe and I just adjusted it to my own tastes. But it's become a regular vape for me and thought I'd share it. This recipe is for flavoring only.

This will make 30 ml of flavoring, but I put in the percents to give a handle for mixing other sized batches.

Tiramisu Coffee

TW Tiramisu -- 66% -- 19.8 ml
Perfumer's Apprentice Chocolate -- 24% -- 7.2 ml
Flavour Art Mellow Sunset tobacco -- 10% -- 3 ml
Lorann's Coffee -- 5 drops (maybe one drop per 6 ml or so; this stuff is almost too potent)

That's it; home some of you like it.

 

[quovadis]

yes the mix is perfect.
You need to get the flavorart tiramisu.

The cofee should be home made...
Place fine ground espresso into VG. Let it soak for 10 minutes stiring.
Then pass the vg espresso mix through a fine mesh to separate grind from liquid.
Add nicotine.

Then you can mix the espresso with the tiramisu,and the chocolate.

Another superb flavor, is apple pie, espresso, and a hint of lime.

Amazing vapes...

 

[ddavelarsen]

What a great idea to make my own coffee flavoring! I'm all over that.

And yeah, I started this with FA tiramisu but then Liberty Flights ran out and I wanted some like right now so ended up with my first TW order. That was a good experience. I haven't used tiramisu enough yet to know which flavor I prefer but hope to hone my taste so that I can get a better idea. Thanks for the clue on the coffee flavor!

 

[quovadis]

Look up "fine mesh straining bags"
Wine straining equipment...

The cofee grind will form a liquid paste with the VG or PG, and you need a fine mesh bag to extract the juice.

The juice will be concentrate ad be near black in color. You end up with espresso concentrate.
You must dilute it with other liquids, otherwise only the taste of espresso is too prevalent.

 

[MaxUT]

Might be a good idea to use an espresso-based liquid in cartomizers since it's so hard to remove solids from home brewed flavorings.

 

[Switched]

Might be a good idea to use an espresso-based liquid in cartomizers since it's so hard to remove solids from home brewed flavorings.

I wonder how many solids remain in suspension with the 10ml syringe & cotton ball technique.

 

[MaxUT]

That just might help. I happen to have a 10ml syringe and there's some cotton saved from a bottle of vitamins. Probably would help to do it with the liquid still quite warm, in order to reduce the viscosity.

I've been wanting to try Kurt's tobacco extraction method. I found a mostly-full pouch of Borkum Riff (paper dry by this time) and I have plenty of PG, so I think I'll do some kitchen chemistry.

Will let you know how it turns out.

 

[Switched]

I always appreciate someone taking one for the team. I am not teasing you Max, just that I don't infuse tobacco but I might try coffee though

 

[MaxUT]

Well, here's how it went:

I placed a skillet containing about an inch of water on the gas burner and put a small glass saucepan in it. I poured in the PG (turned out to be 70ml) and added 1/4 cup of the Borkum Riff Bourbon tobacco.

After the water in the skillet came to a boil I reduced the heat to a simmer. After 20 minutes of occaisionally stirring the PG/tobacco I shut off the gas and let the pan cool a bit.

Didn't do anything fancy when decanting the liquid, just poured it through a miniature funnel with a double layer of medical gauze in the bottom. Yield was 45ml; I didn't bother to squeeze out the tobacco, just let it drain.

The liquid is clear and as dark as molasses... really dark.
I'm kinda skeered of the dark when it comes to juice, it hasn't worked out well with atomizers.

I put a cleaned 510 atty on my 5V Prodigy, primed it with 5 drops of the liquid and gave it a try. Hmmm... no throat hit at all... oh well, it's pretty much zero nic. I would describe it as having a hay taste, resembling FA Cowboy at a low concentration. Not bad, but also a little 'green', reminds me of a tobacco absolute I tried last year.

I'll let this stand overnight and try it again in the morning, but I'm not expecting improvement. Will probably end up using this for cutting 100mg VG nic when making a tobacco liquid.

 

[ddavelarsen]

That's the first I've heard anyone describe their results from infusing tobacco; thanks for the info. How much do you suppose the flavor you're getting is a result of the particular tobacco you used, and do you have a sense whether fresher tobacco would make a difference?

I wonder how many solids remain in suspension with the 10ml syringe & cotton ball technique.

So okay, I'm enough a newbie that this is a new one on me. I take it this is used dealing with infusions as a filtering process? What's the rundown? Thanks!

 

[MaxUT]

All I got was a fairly subtle tobacco flavor; there was no detectable 'bourbon' taste in the liquid. Fresh tobacco would probably be better but I would dry it out first to prevent the PG from taking up the water in it.

The flavor was improved after 24 hrs and is actually pretty good now, but still not very strong, even out of a 808 cartomizer running at 5 volts. Someone who preferred ultralight analogs would probably like it as-is, but I'm going to try adding some FA Cuban Supreme for a stronger taste.

Next experiment:
Heat the PG to boiling
Place it and the tobacco in an ultrasonic cleaner
Run for 30 minutes

I'm hoping to get a clean taste from this method!

 

[quovadis]

I think, this which you describe , is really interesting.
You could add some nic juice and other flavors to your mixture?

How about not boiling the PG? Just allow tobacco to infuse for a few days?

definitely very interesting.

 

[MaxUT]

I added 25% of 100mg VG to make 8ml of liquid. The flavor is good but light, not as strong as I prefer.

Worth trying, I think, with a lighter colored tobacco to see if this makes a difference.

I could make two batches, one with heating, one without, to compare the effect.

 

[MacArthurBug]

Keep us posted! I found a cigar flavor I love but it's on the pricey side. If there's a chance I can achieve that "cigarillo" taste I'll be a happy girl.

 

[rolygate]

@Max
Did you try using VG instead of PG? That's what most people use, VG may be a better solvent.Also it helps to add a little alcohol to the end result, that assists it to mix into the final liquid. It also adds a little to the TH.

@M.A.B.
Here is a recipe I call Cigarillo, mainly because it's not cigar and it's not cigarette, it's somewhere between. I haven't smoked a cigarillo for 30 years but it might be somewhere near it...


Cigarillo

3ml VG base = 60 drops

flavor:
4 drops DV Habana Reserve
2 drops LF Cuban
2 drops caramel
2 drops TE
total = 12 drops

mix = total 70 drops
adjust base strength to achieve desired nic strength
PG base can most likely be used instead of VG (or whatever)
flavour: a cigar note, a caramel note, very pleasant

DV = Decadent Vapours flavoring, sold through TW and LF
LF = Liberty Flights
TW = Totally Wicked
TE = tobacco extract (tobacco boiled in VG, then more VG added, rum added - double filtered)

Go easy on the the LF Cuban because it is probably FlavourArt and has some Rose perfume in, which is revolting at higher strengths