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softarno

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Hi everyone,
Am kinda new here and I love the forum, managed to get such a valuable information from everyone.
Well Am new to vaping, been vapping for almost 4 months now, ok will try to make that as short as possible :)

I got 2 regular ego batteries, one ego twist and one variable voltage with lcd battery.
And as many of us started with the CE4 and some CE5 I love the CE4 but didn't enjoy the CE5 much, and lately just got the new Protank Mini 2 v2 and its the best tank I have ever used so far, and have ordered coil and wick and will start rebuilding my coils.

Ok here we go, since am going to rebuild my coil I need to check the resistance and the ohms , also been reading reviews about pro Mods and am asking myself do I really need the Pro Mod or I just get a multimeter and safe some cash?
Been interested about evic and provari, and recently heard about the DNA
So I need your help to make up my decision

Thanks

Hmmmm Guess I put my thread on the wrong place I think it was to ne on
Ask The Veterans not sure sorry for that
 
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Having a multi meter can never be a bad thing. Even if you get a provari or evic. Back ups for your devices. Even though I have heard awesome things about the provari I bought. I still double check its reading properly. Also I can check with my ego if its indeed firing at the specified voltage. Recently I shorted my provari. And if I didnt have a multimeter I wouldnt have been able to safely build my igo l micro coil and be sure of the ohms on it. So yes. Get the multimeter either way.

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Having a multi meter can never be a bad thing. Even if you get a provari or evic. Back ups for your devices. Even though I have heard awesome things about the provari I bought. I still double check its reading properly. Also I can check with my ego if its indeed firing at the specified voltage. Recently I shorted my provari. And if I didnt have a multimeter I wouldnt have been able to safely build my igo l micro coil and be sure of the ohms on it. So yes. Get the multimeter either way.

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Sorry for your provari, hope u managed to fix it
And thanks for the advice in fact I was thinking of the same since a multimeter are not really expensive, and do you have any idea about what ohm's an ego battery can take?
 

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Sorry for your provari, hope u managed to fix it
And thanks for the advice in fact I was thinking of the same since a multimeter are not really expensive, and do you have any idea about what ohm's an ego battery can take?

What kind of eGo? The regular eGo batteries will die a sudden death if you put anything close to 1Ω on them.
 

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Sorry for your provari, hope u managed to fix it
And thanks for the advice in fact I was thinking of the same since a multimeter are not really expensive, and do you have any idea about what ohm's an ego battery can take?

I didnt need to fix it. I sent it to provape and they fixed it for free under warranty and sent it back

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What kind of eGo? The regular eGo batteries will die a sudden death if you put anything close to 1Ω on them.

Well have never used anything close to 1Ω the range of coils I have is from 1.8 to 2.5 Ω and I have the 2 Standard ego CE5 1100mah batteries got them with a kit and another ego c twist 1100mah battery, but why sudden death? is it you need more V for the Low Ω ?
 

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If you must VV or VW then..

Watts matter more which is what the DNA20D control's up to 20W

So long as you don't plan to subΩ then go w/ a DNA20D mod

If you plan to go subΩ pm me.

Well I don't think I will go subΩ but what is the advantages of subΩ over supraΩ ?
And I don't know if it will be possible to get a DNA or Evic

Also I keep on wondering what is the different between VV and VW and why u saying Watts matter more?
 
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softarno

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Protank - rip out some 1.8ohm coils and enjoy. Your VV will do fine with those. 32ga Kanthal 5 wraps on 2mm silica 2x 1mm silica flavor wicks.
I build 5-10 at a time. Makes for consistent builds and reduces built time.

Actually they are the perfect I have ever used so far and that exactly what am planning to do, and am using the 1.8Ω @ 3.3 V and its working the best so far
 

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Well have never used anything close to 1Ω the range of coils I have is from 1.8 to 2.5 Ω and I have the 2 Standard ego CE5 1100mah batteries got them with a kit and another ego c twist 1100mah battery, but why sudden death? is it you need more V for the Low Ω ?

That's just how eGos were designed. Don't ask me why. But every time your atty goes down to about 1.1Ω, the MOSFET will fail. It's a well known flaw in the design of the short circuit protection in the eGo class units. 1Ω just means sudden death.

But I have used 1.5 and up without any problems.
 

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Well I don't think I will go subΩ but what is the advantages of subΩ over supraΩ ?
And I don't know if it will be possible to get a DNA or Evic

Also I keep on wondering what is the different between VV and VW and why u saying Watts matter more?

They don't matter more or less--they are part of the equation.

Watts (power, heat) of your PV = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by the resistance (of your atomizer).

They quality of your vape is directly related to the wattage your using.

Maybe this will help:

Maybe this will help. Since you can't open links yet, I'll just copy and paste:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9331-confused-re-evod-heads.html#post10720246

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers mostly or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-8.5 watts). If you are using dual coil atomizers or are interested in high wattage vaping, it's a different conversation altogether. :) You will also have to understand the concept of amp limits and how it applies to high power vaping.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 Watts. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) and even some juices, especially the delicate ones.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you want to know more, this is a good read:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-stuff-i-double-dog-dare-you.html#post9112897

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

e-cigarette-volts-ohms-watts.png
 
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and do you have any idea about what ohm's an ego battery can take?

EGo batteries from Joye will shut down at about 1.5 ohms. I never use anything below 1.8 ohms as they can vary a bit so are typically between 1.6 and 2.0. At 1.5 the short protection kicks in and shuts the battery down.
 

softarno

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They don't matter more or less--they are part of the equation.

Watts (power, heat) of your PV = Voltage (of your battery) divided by the resistance (of your atomizer).

They quality of your vape is directly related to the wattage your using.

Maybe this will help:

Maybe this will help. Since you can't open links yet, I'll just copy and paste:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...9331-confused-re-evod-heads.html#post10720246

Disclaimer: This is the most simplistic explanation and is addressed to new vapers mostly or vapers who are happy within the recommended "just right" power zone (4.5-8.5 watts). If you are using dual coil atomizers or are interested in high wattage vaping, it's a different conversation altogether. :) You will also have to understand the concept of amp limits and how it applies to high power vaping.

Ohm's Law as it pertains to vaping is really not that complicated--and it's very useful when you want to know what you're doing.

Voltage and wattage are often misunderstood by new vapers. Wattage is the power (heat, sweet spot) that your PV (battery and atomizer) generates. Wattage = Voltage (of your battery) squared divided by Resistance (Ω) of your atomizer [P=V[SUP]2[/SUP]/R]. If you're not good at math, don't worry, use this easy calculator:

Online Conversion - Ohm's Law Calculator

Of course, if you own a VW (variable wattage) device, you don't really need this calculator because your device will do the math for you.

The wattage you want, especially at the beginning of your vaping career, should be somewhere between 4.5 and 8.5 Watts. Anything lower than 4.5 watts may not vaporize your juice properly and will not produce enough warmth and vapor. Anything above 8.5 watts increases the risk of burning the filler in your cartomizers (if you're using them) and even some juices, especially the delicate ones.

There are, of course, other variables, like eliquid and JDD (juice delivery devices) that you're using on your batteries. Seven watts on a filler type cartomizer may feel different than the same 7 watts on a fillerless clearomizer or a dripping atomizer. The same is true for different eliquids; tobaccos, chocolate and coffees generally require more wattage (heat), while fruit and other delicate flavors do better with less heat. Everyone's sweet spot is different--those are just very general guidelines.

If you want to know more, this is a good read:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-stuff-i-double-dog-dare-you.html#post9112897

Experiment and you'll find your own bliss in no time!

The chart below is a good guide to safe vaping, even though some think it's a bit conservative.

e-cigarette-volts-ohms-watts.png

That was helpful thank you so much and I have earlier down that chart to help me in using the correct Ω for my batteries to not spoil them, and thank you for the explanation I appreciate the links and all :) am not only happy with Vaping am happy to be a member in this forum.
Now am really considering getting a Mod and am just attracted to Evic as it might be the only thing that can reach here
 

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EGo batteries from Joye will shut down at about 1.5 ohms. I never use anything below 1.8 ohms as they can vary a bit so are typically between 1.6 and 2.0. At 1.5 the short protection kicks in and shuts the battery down.

Hi Ryedan. Actually, 1.5Ω is perfectly fine--Joytech even makes 1.5Ω atties that are meant to be used on eGo batteries. 1.1Ω is the sudden death.

That said, you are absolutely correct--resistance of any atomizer will change (up or down) with use. I always check mine with a multimeter.
 

softarno

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EGo batteries from Joye will shut down at about 1.5 ohms. I never use anything below 1.8 ohms as they can vary a bit so are typically between 1.6 and 2.0. At 1.5 the short protection kicks in and shuts the battery down.

Well I ordered extra coils and all what I got is 1.8Ω to 2.5Ω I didn't get any thing below, even the coil that I ordered is 32ga Kanthal and 2mm silica wick tho am also planning to try cotton
 

softarno

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Hi Ryedan. Actually, 1.5Ω is perfectly fine--Joytech even makes 1.5Ω atties that are meant to be used on eGo batteries. 1.1Ω is the sudden death.

That said, you are absolutely correct--resistance of any atomizer will change (up or down) with use. I always check mine with a multimeter.

But do u think a 2.5Ω can really drop very far? am looking for a multimeter but so far no luck with good stuff still looking
 
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