Tobacco-Containing Smoking Article - RJR Patent

[WinstonSmith]

I came across this in a Google patent search. It is an RJR patent for something called a tobacco-Containing Smoking Article. Not sure if RJR actually plans on ever developing it or whether it would even qualify as an e-cig, a vaporizer, or something entirely different but it is interesting as I have been curious for some time what their entry into the e-cig market would look like. The link is below. I am curious of anyone's opinion, or if someone with more technical knowhow than I could translate what this device is into simpler terms.

http://www.google.com/patents?id=M6kIAgAAEBAJ&zoom=4&dq=rj%20reynolds&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q=rj%20reynolds&f=falsehttp://

 

[nosaint]

I've got to admit that I finally got lost in all the jargon. It might be an e cig, they keep mentioning tobbaco or products derived from tobacco, i.e. nicotine possibly. But it could be an updated version of their original "smokeless cigarette" which I vaugely remember
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They may have figured out a way to adapt that technology to ecigs

 

[Drael]

Thats a weird one.

"An aerosol is a suspension of fine solid particles or liquid droplets in a gas."

Okay, so they are making an "aerosol" (or mixture of vapour and aerosol) from either tobacco, or a tobacco derived product (possibly suspended on another plant matter) using a heating element +battery or heating chemicals, in a "device", thats shaped like a cigarrette.

So its essentially a sort of vapour, but with with "fine solid particles" or "liquid droplets in it?

Not exactly an e-cig per se from what I can tell, but somewhat related. Bit vague...

 

[t.d]

I'm going to hate life if they end up being the only suppliers for e-cigs. I can't imagine all the BS they'd add into the juice.

 

[Erncig]

I'm going to hate life if they end up being the only suppliers for e-cigs. I can't imagine all the BS they'd add into the juice.

As the saying goes, "what you don't know, can't hurt ya"

 

[t.d]

As the saying goes, "what you don't know, can't hurt ya"

at least you're still able to make your juice.

 

[SilentScreams]

From what I make of it, it is not a vaporizer. It actually makes use of analog cigarettes. You insert an analog into this device and use the device to smoke the cigarette. How exactly it is supposed to work I have no idea. But, if you read that small print it actually states, "during use the cigarette is placed within the device, after use the used cigarette is discarded and replaced with a fresh one".

Ok a little more reading and it states it uses a thermal heating element. So somehow it burns the cigarette with you actually using a lighter to light it.

 

[dgm76513]

Ok, I read it for the most part.

It IS in fact, an ecig. They reference Ruyan's patent several times.

The reason it's confusing to most is, they're playing with a lot of different configurations here. But the main idea is, that they want to incorporate an aerosol forming component like PG/VG AND tobacco products.

One configuration is a cartridge filled with flavored or unflavored PG soaked tobacco. That is, a regular cartridge, but instead of our poly blanket fillers, it will be tobacco leaves either cut or rolled sheet.

Another configuration, and this one is out there let me tell ya, is to have a whole friggin cigarette heated up in a tube either upstream or downstream from the flavored "cartridge" ( it's a carto ) to give extra tobacco flavor.

There's a few more configurations but it's approaching bed time and I got a long day at work tomorrow.

So to summarize; it looks as if they are designing an e-cigarette that will incorporate actual tobacco in some form, be it whole leaves, an actual cigarette, cut tobacco, tobacco powder, tobacco pellets, etc...

The scary part is when they mention all the chemicals that they use in cigarettes that they can employ with this device.

I always said BT getting involved was a bad thing.

They even have the audacity to say one carto can yield up to 600 puffs on that machine that takes puffs from a regular cigarette. So I bet they, in their infinite wisdom, will charge accordingly. Real world = 50-100 puffs, their world = 400-600 puffs. HA!

I don't see this going in a good direction guys. I am concerned.

 

[Erncig]

Why would they choose to incorporate tobbacco when its going to mean they will not be allowed to use marketing methods such as TV commericals?

Ecigs are a gold mine opportunity yet they want to go down this route? Seems strange.

 

[D4rk50ul]

Why would they choose to incorporate tobbacco when its going to mean they will not be allowed to use marketing methods such as TV commericals?

Ecigs are a gold mine opportunity yet they want to go down this route? Seems strange.

Probably because they own millions of acres of tobacco farms.

Sent from my Nexus 4

 

[meli.]

Well aren't we lucky we still have a choice, we can either choose to purchase Their product or we can opt for one of the many innovations by other Mfrs that are currently displayed on google patent search lists.

Many of these patents like the 3000+ alterations BT have proposed to the FDA for their tobacco cigarettes will never come to fruition.

They are just patents, so if anyone comes along and tries to develop something like it they'll have to pay the Patent Holder royalties or stop production altogether. There are some really clever patents for ecigs but I believe it's the connectors that are being kept Top Secret. Ultimately what BT would prefer is if you purchased a M'boro ecig the cartridge would only be compatible with a M'boro battery.

What's also interesting is if the search is expanded, RJR have many patents on ecigs but RJR seem to concentrate their efforts on smokeless tobacco, not liquid nicotine. Most of the electronic liquid nicotine delivery patents are held by the Chinese.

 

[DC2]

The electronic cigarette that RJ Reynolds is currently test-marketing is called Vuse.
You can find threads on here about it, and can get the latest info through a Google search.