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Tobacco Harm Reduction Study by the University of Alberta

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larktdl

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From the Washington Post:

Virginia Politics Blog - Battery-operated cigarettes don't violate smoking ban, Cuccinelli says

A reader's comments:

"The American Cancer Society (ACS) is wrong. According to a University of Alberta study, to be published in tobacco Harm Reduction Yearbook, only 4% of electronic cigarette consumers are "dual users" who still smoke the same amount of regular cigarettes, while 17% have reduced the number smoked, and 79% are using electronic cigarettes as a complete replacement for all their cigarettes. If the ACS is truly committed to cancer prevention (as it should be) it needs to stop its efforts to ban the products."
 

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"The American Cancer Society (ACS) is wrong."

$$Pharmaceutical$$ companies with smoking cessation products are large $$supporters$$ of both the Canadian and American Cancer societies. E-cigarettes on the other hand do not financially contribute.

So in the best $$financial$$ interest of the Society its the right $$position$$ to take....

Oh I see it now, the author was thinking that it was THEIR best interest the Societies had at hart. Unfortunatly its that author that is wrong.

I had every post, referencing e-cigs, I made on the Canadian Cancer Society smoking helpline website removed. That was before I was a vendor, and I was only speaking of personal experience.
 

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Well let me tell you a story about a man named Jed, a poor pioneer... nah! wrong story :D

Once upon a time there was a tobacco company, who's product made people sick and even contributed to their early demise. Well i don't believe for one instance that companies are callous in general :rolleyes: but rather are indeed passionate about their fellow human beings.

Feeling a little guilty :rolleyes: wrt the harm their products caused, they decided to fund research on how to alleviate if not cure the affliction caused by their product. Hey, :thumbs: wow! They do really care. :rolleyes: For years now these research foundations have basked in the comfortable wealth provided by these ever caring :rolleyes: companies. We don't need to find a cure, we just need to make progress and state that with more funding we are getting closer every day. :thumbs:

I find it amusing that one breakthrough in AIDS research was quickly swept under the rug by the FDA as unsafe. You see, this drug would have reversed :shock: the virus and cured AIDS patients. Well we couldn't have that. :nah: What about all the money big pharma would loose with their ineffective alternate solutions. No, we will just provide the necessary research foundations with grants so we can finally find a cure. :)

Low and behold through all this research it became apparent that smoking wasn't good for you, :( and amidst all the progress a cure for cancer was even further away. :( :( We must assist smokers with ridding them of their filthy habits. Well...

BT none to pleased :mad: with their lost of revenue, made it such that our addiction today is worst than it was in yesteryear. :D I doing so they have maintained their profit margins :) and assited Big Pharma in maintaining theirs, and once again everybody was happy. :thumbs:

The tobacco industry still feeling guilty :oops: of the harm their newly addictive concoctions caused, needed to appear caring. We know, we will replace nasty cigarettes with smokeless products, after all this is the 21st Century and we need to get with the program. All is well in dreamland and once again profit margins are stable and everyone is happy. :)

Then came a long some Chinese fellow :evil: and upset the whole balance... the rest of the story is as you know it:

  • are you ready to give up your mercedes if you had one;
  • are ready to give up a lucrative career in research;
  • are you ready to give up funding that quenches your thirst for life long ambitions; and
  • are you willing to pay for the fiscal deficit incurred through the lack of taxation on cigarettes.
If you answered NO to any aforementioned question, then please explain why you think they should give it up for your right to vape. That is the battle we are dealing with. Money talks and BS walks. It is a sad ending to this story, but non-fictional nonetheless.

The best we can hope for is that they figure out a way to tax our habit, otherwise I don't see it coming to fruition, on a legal aspect anyway. To be perfectly honest, knowing what we know, do we seriously want BT and BP involved in anything that has to do with what we vape? I am on the fence on that one big time.

The end.
 
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I think that it's a big money concern.
I use to work for a big pharma company, and yes they are big friends of HC.
Pharma pays a lot of money to HC (during the approval of a new DIN), Doctor (to push the new molecule) and pharmacists (with the generic molecule). Ever heard of Zyban (Bupropion)! Switched, your illustration is exactly has it happened. Everything was going fine until some people out there invented the device. HC and FDA is just trying to figure out on how to make money with it right now. If they have no financial interests, they will probably end up banning the product. I'm just curious to see what will happen with the FDA appeal this year has HC will (like most of the time) follow them.

Vincent
 
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