too much liquid?

[ddouglas01]

It seems that i have just figured out something about my 510. It only smokes really well when the fluid is closer to gone. When i first top of a cart i fill it to the top. Then it smokes less at first and then a good thick smoke when its close to gone.

Has anyone else had this problem?

Thanks in advance for your response.

ps. this happens with all different types of fluids.

 

[happily]

only if the atty's flooding and gurgling for me,,,,,,,,,but if I sit it in a cup carts side down overnight it vape's like a raped ape

 

[NPerez]

I always get a little more vapor when I'm running dry - probably because I'm vaping the filler too

But if you're not getting much vapor at all after a fresh refill, I'd blame the liquid. I just tried my 2nd liquid ever & was surprised to see just how much the liquid has to do with vapor production.

I do have the same problem as you with my x-high tobacco liquid. I've gotten used to holding down the switch longer after I've just refilled. My new coffee liquid does not have this problem & produces a lot of vapor on a short draw.

I've heard claims that adding glycerin can improve vapor production, though obv this will dilute the juice & bring down the nicotine content (and sweeten the flavor, I think). Can't offer much more info about that - never tried it, and barely even looked into it.

 

[sattec]

But if you're not getting much vapor at all after a fresh refill, I'd blame the liquid. I just tried my 2nd liquid ever & was surprised to see just how much the liquid has to do with vapor production.

WOW...WOW...thank you sir.....so many times it aint the "fogger", it's the JUICE. I would like to submit this mans post to the "hall of fame", please...

 

[ddouglas01]

thanks! I've been vaping a while and used to use the m-410. yeah i am experiencing the gurgling....so now i've just started with a newly cleaned atomizer on my 510 and put some cola in. filed the cart to where i can just see liquid on the top of the filler and put two drops in the atty...now its vaping awesome..i think when im out and about im dripping too much fluid in...I'll watch it from now on.

Oh and nperez..i have used glycerine..it rocks! i try not to put too much in..just add a few drops per 5ml. really makes it smoke and has a smooth feel. I like it.

 

[ddouglas01]

oh and just for clarification..im using vapornines cola and vanilla now...and they both work well when i dip the m-410..but the 510 now that i didnt drowned it..is really smoking..cant see the computer screen hardly!

 

[NPerez]

whoops, didn't read the p.s. about it happening with all different types of juice.

but yeah. over-filling is a pain. I straw-mod all of my carts, and now I know that when I see a bubble at the top, it's pretty much good to go.

 

[happily]

whoops, didn't read the p.s. about it happening with all different types of juice.

but yeah. over-filling is a pain. I straw-mod all of my carts, and now I know that when I see a bubble at the top, it's pretty much good to go.

I second the straw mod

 

[Terraphon]

I don't use the straw mod any more since it raped one of my attys...if you're not paying VERY close attention when you insert the cart, it will crush the bridge.

That said, I also get light vapor when there's too much liquid but that's simple physics. The liquid absorbs the heat of the atty and keeps it from getting hot enough to go nuts on the vapor. Once the atty dries out a bit, it goes full on fog-machine and gets busy with the clouds.

 

[a2dcovert]

I don't use the straw mod any more since it raped one of my attys...if you're not paying VERY close attention when you insert the cart, it will crush the bridge.

I do a slight variation of the original straw mod. I use the standard single straw stirrer and I flatten it down about half flat. Then I cut one edge off the straw to make it narrow enough so that I can insert it into the curved side of the cart. This does 2 things. It allows the straw to fit on the curved side, which it wont do normally, and it opens up the straw for the full length to allow for maximum contact to the filler material. It also takes up less space and leaves room for the bridge to clear easily. This works like a charm, I have done this trick to all my carts. The only way to fly!

Also if you aren't getting maximum vapor on a full cart then your battery must be weak. My vapor production is just the opposite of what you describe. I get the maximum vapor from a full cart. If the vapor production goes down either the cart is running dry (bad for the atomizer), the battery is getting too weak, or you have some strange liquid.

Kevin

 

[testerjtester]

I do a slight variation of the original straw mod. I use the standard single straw stirrer and I flatten it down about half flat. Then I cut one edge off the straw to make it narrow enough so that I can insert it into the curved side of the cart. This does 2 things. It allows the straw to fit on the curved side, which it wont do normally, and it opens up the straw for the full length to allow for maximum contact to the filler material. It also takes up less space and leaves room for the bridge to clear easily.

Could you clarify what you mean by "cut one edge off the straw"? Are you cutting through one of the bent edges to leave the straw in kind of a "C" shape when looking at the end? And if so, does the open or closed side of the "C" make contact with the curved side of the cart?

I'm kind of visualizing it with the open part making contact with the side of the cart, and may try that regardless - guess you wouldn't necessarily need a closed straw to provide airflow if the side of the cart effectively closes the gap, but I could see juice leaking in around the sides.

I've been flattening the plastic q-tip pieces I've been using as straws to provide extra clearance for the bridge, but they always seem to open back up over time...

Thanks!
Tim

 

[testerjtester]

It seems that i have just figured out something about my 510. It only smokes really well when the fluid is closer to gone. When i first top of a cart i fill it to the top. Then it smokes less at first and then a good thick smoke when its close to gone.

Has anyone else had this problem?

I see this too... what I've been doing lately is to take a couple of hits from the cartless atomizer whenever I top off or replace the cartridge, to get some of the liquid out of the atomizer and make room for a little more to soak up from the fresh cart. Seems to be doing the trick so far, and also helps to avoid juice leaking out at the atomizer/battery connection.

Of course, gotta be careful not to burn off too much, or burn my lips...

I also agree that the liquid can make a difference... I think thinner liquids are more likely to flood the atomizer.

And Terraphon's comment about too much liquid cooling the atomizer is spot on.

Tim

 

[ddouglas01]

It seems like i have to refill a bunch more now, since im using less fluid...i think its normal..im putting three drops max in the cart when i top off.....but i have to refill every 15 puffs or so..is this on par?

 

[a2dcovert]

Could you clarify what you mean by "cut one edge off the straw"? Are you cutting through one of the bent edges to leave the straw in kind of a "C" shape when looking at the end? And if so, does the open or closed side of the "C" make contact with the curved side of the cart?

I'm kind of visualizing it with the open part making contact with the side of the cart, and may try that regardless - guess you wouldn't necessarily need a closed straw to provide airflow if the side of the cart effectively closes the gap, but I could see juice leaking in around the sides.

I've been flattening the plastic q-tip pieces I've been using as straws to provide extra clearance for the bridge, but they always seem to open back up over time...

Thanks!
Tim

Sorry for the slow response. Picture a flattened straw which now has 2 edges where the flattened seams are. I cut the entire length of the straw, removing one of those edges. So now looking at the end of the straw you now see a "C" instead of an "O". You now have an open chimney to evacuate the air that can contact the filler for it's entire length. I hope this is a little clearer.

Kevin.

 

[testerjtester]

Sorry for the slow response. Picture a flattened straw which now has 2 edges where the flattened seams are. I cut the entire length of the straw, removing one of those edges. So now looking at the end of the straw you now see a "C" instead of an "O". You now have an open chimney to evacuate the air that can contact the filler for it's entire length. I hope this is a little clearer.

Kevin.

Yessir, much clearer... thanks for taking the time to clarify.

I'm going to try this over the weekend, because I think it will solve the problem I've been having with the shortened filler (which leaves room for the air pocket in the original version of the mod) getting pushed down in the cartridge by the atomizer mesh, and therefore not making good contact with said mesh. With the air pocket on the side, I can fill the whole cartridge with Fluval.

Thanks again!

Tim

 

[ddouglas01]

sounds like i need to check out this straw mod!

 

[Telegraft]

Wish I had found this thread a couple days ago. Pretty much learned all this by trial and error after experiencing the same problems.

A pull or two on the cartridgeless atomizer after topping off is great advice; just not too much, or you'll burn your lips!

Also, the straw mod is pretty much a must-do for me at this point. If it didn't make cartridges that much better, I'd just be dripping.

 

[ddouglas01]

thanks to everyone...i have been experiencing way better vapor...

now i have a little new question..just so im not going crazy...

towards the almost end/end...i get a lot of vapor in a weird way..its almost like...oily or wet, or something, kinda like a really humid day, but feels lubricated or something.

Does this happen to anyone else? usually right about then i refill. Is this normal?