Besides, ask 10 people what Boba's tastes like and get 10 different answers. 
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Yeah, I get the occasional tobacco-like puff from both of those juices, but I wouldn't say it's the dominant flavor or anything like that. But speaking in broader terms, I think that there are a lot of juices out there that are classified as "tobaccos" that just don't fit nicely in any other category. Halo's tobaccos come to mind. I would love it if someone could explain to me why exactly Torque 56, for example, is considered a tobacco.
Yes I do. It's the first thing I taste. It's a very light and airy tobacco taste, but it's there (to me). It's just not TOBACCO like YOU mean tobacco.
Besides your tongue is burned off.
Those two famous juices seem to be enigmatic "tobaccos" in the same category as Bounty Hunter (also an alleged "tobacco," but you couldn't prove it by me . . . )
+1 here. It's all personal interpretation, but I believe that those who exclude Heathers Heavenly Vapes Gandalf, or NiteLiteVapors Bounty Hunter, plus your examples Mr. M., because they are in the "Tobacco" category are really missing out on something really wonderful. Devil Dog = Tobacco? 100%! - E-Joker = Absolutely! Cigarillo Naturales = absolutely! (well, cigar that is). BH Gandalf et al ...whether naturally extracted or otherwise, ...not so much really.
Right on baaaaaby!!!!!!
I have this funny image in my head of Mr.Mann, when he saw me bragging about "preferring tobacco flavors", chuckling to himself and saying, "OH REAAALLY?".
I think you guys have to consider that most "tobacco" flavors probably reflect pipe or cigar tobacco. In reality, cigarettes themselves do not have a strong tobacco flavor even though they are considered the reference by many. I have not found a flavor that tastes like a cigarette, but quite a few that taste like a mild cigar or pipe tobacco
I think we are very much understanding that. You are right in your assertions, just not in who needs to consider it.
Besides, ask 10 people what Boba's tastes like and get 10 different answers.
Opinions, unfortunately, are not regulated.
Haha- I thought I did when I first started vaping and I think my palette has developed more towards what I enjoy - what gives me the "ahhh- this is perfect" feeling now....
Some days I still want something to be "harsh" for lack of a better word and other days I enjoy the mellow (but never bland and yuck).....
Guess everyone is different and if they can find a Nirvana vape - good for them Sure is fun (now that I know what to research and try- compared to the old days of buying anything "different"/"hot")..... I still like trying new companies that have great reputations - not that all of their juice is for me.... but I can more appreciate the art form now & vape mail is FUN!
Some days I still want something to be "harsh" for lack of a better word and other days I enjoy the mellow (but never bland and yuck).....
Guess everyone is different and if they can find a Nirvana vape - good for them
Sure is fun (now that I know what to research and try- compared to the old days of buying anything "different"/"hot")..... I still like trying new companies that have great reputations - not that all of their juice is for me.... but I can more appreciate the art form now & vape mail is FUN!I might be. Though I find boba for example very similar to some of the sweet pipe tobaccos I have tried. I might be assuming that people consider tobacco flavor = cigarette flavor...because there are really many variation of cigar flavors, and even more variations of pipe tobacco.
Many people DO consider tobacco flavor = cigarette flavor, however, they are just poor misguided souls that we should neither pity nor look down upon, but rather we should strive to show them the light and the truth.
I don't want to come off as exactly how I am , but, tastes may be subjective, but exposure and experience are not. What I mean is, if you have only tried Pabst Blue Ribbon, Old Milwaukee, and Schlitz, you are not in the best place to judge beer, but surely you could decide which is best of those. Until I really started vaping tobacco, it took awhile before I could unearth, discover and find out what is was that I was tasting. Initially I never questioned tobacco and just equated it with the "misfit" flavor. Until you dive in and surround yourself with a plethora of tobacco (juices) it is hard to understand why many of us scoff at the broad title of tobacco. Sure, anyone can say that Pabst Blue Ribbon is the best, most hoppy beer and Dekang tastes just like tobacco, but is it really doing that person a positive service to substantiate those claims by supporting the comments with "well, everyone is different?" I never see that type of pandering in other arenas. It is okay to educate, and I am happy those that schooled me did in fact take the time to do it. This post is not directed at anyone or any post, but it has been on my mind for quite some time.
Side note: When different people get Ahlusion Juices and they say theirs tastes like this or that, it is very possible that this is one of those times that no one can really say one way or another that a person is wrong. I have been chatting with Wlad and he said I can post this last message from him:
"This is a fairly common question we receive: "Why does my e-liquid [I purchased directly from Ahlusion] taste different from the sample I received from a friend?"
The reason is simple, but not quite understood as this is unique to Ahlusion, so I'll explain it as best as possible here. Every customer who has provided specific feedback in regards to their e-liquids, has a unique flavor profile. This consists of a bunch of numbers and algorightms that make up the flavor profile used by our mixing software. Say for instance that customer A's flavor profile inducates that she likes sour or bitter flavors, then all recipes for that customer will be modified accordingly. I mention recipes because by using flavor profiles, every customer essentially has his or her own recipes. This is the very simplified way of explaining this, but there's a lot more involved in the backend.
This is one reason to never expect the exact same flavors from an e-liquid received as a sample. To date we have over 700 unique flavor profiles and not one is identical to the other.
This is one reason why we send feedback requests after every order; it is to determine YOUR flavor profile and to make e-liquids the way YOU want it. It's the Ahlusion difference!" Wlad
, but, tastes may be subjective, but exposure and experience are not. What I mean is, if you have only tried Pabst Blue Ribbon, Old Milwaukee, and Schlitz, you are not in the best place to judge beer, but surely you could decide which is best of those. Until I really started vaping tobacco, it took awhile before I could unearth, discover and find out what is was that I was tasting. Initially I never questioned tobacco and just equated it with the "misfit" flavor. Until you dive in and surround yourself with a plethora of tobacco (juices) it is hard to understand why many of us scoff at the broad title of tobacco. Sure, anyone can say that Pabst Blue Ribbon is the best, most hoppy beer and Dekang tastes just like tobacco, but is it really doing that person a positive service to substantiate those claims by supporting the comments with "well, everyone is different?" I never see that type of pandering in other arenas. It is okay to educate, and I am happy those that schooled me did in fact take the time to do it. This post is not directed at anyone or any post, but it has been on my mind for quite some time. Side note: When different people get Ahlusion Juices and they say theirs tastes like this or that, it is very possible that this is one of those times that no one can really say one way or another that a person is wrong. I have been chatting with Wlad and he said I can post this last message from him:
"This is a fairly common question we receive: "Why does my e-liquid [I purchased directly from Ahlusion] taste different from the sample I received from a friend?"
The reason is simple, but not quite understood as this is unique to Ahlusion, so I'll explain it as best as possible here. Every customer who has provided specific feedback in regards to their e-liquids, has a unique flavor profile. This consists of a bunch of numbers and algorightms that make up the flavor profile used by our mixing software. Say for instance that customer A's flavor profile inducates that she likes sour or bitter flavors, then all recipes for that customer will be modified accordingly. I mention recipes because by using flavor profiles, every customer essentially has his or her own recipes. This is the very simplified way of explaining this, but there's a lot more involved in the backend.
This is one reason to never expect the exact same flavors from an e-liquid received as a sample. To date we have over 700 unique flavor profiles and not one is identical to the other.
This is one reason why we send feedback requests after every order; it is to determine YOUR flavor profile and to make e-liquids the way YOU want it. It's the Ahlusion difference!" Wlad
Many people DO consider tobacco flavor = cigarette flavor, however, they are just poor misguided souls that we should neither pity nor look down upon, but rather we should strive to show them the light and the truth.
HAHAHA. Wile I was just writing my previous post I had no idea that you wrote this. I guess we are vibing GT.
I for one, appreciate threads like this - with very knowledgeable teachers............just sayin
Pretty cool about ahlusions - I cant wait to break into mine - but I am trying to be a good girl.........
ps- does ahlusions even have a thread on here? I will go to the website to leave feedback - but wondered about that
Pretty cool about ahlusions - I cant wait to break into mine - but I am trying to be a good girl.........
ps- does ahlusions even have a thread on here? I will go to the website to leave feedback - but wondered about that
Oddly enough, Ahlusion is not on ECF...yet? Wlad and I have talked about it, but they have their hands in so many other ventures, ECF would not necessarily be feasible at this moment. I can't go into why I say this, but Ahlusion is the most professional, high-tech, and intricately structured vendor. Now as to whether or not people will like their flavors above others is different. I don't think they are the best vendor per se, but if I had to invest my money in a vendor (like real investing), I wouldn't hesitate to put my chips on Ahlusion!
I have a lot of respect for Ahlusion products, but I'm not sure I want my orders tweaked by a computer just because I get adventurous in sampling. I'm looking for a constant, a nirvana vape if you will. I've been going a little nuts today because I can't get the flavor of my favorite juices right with any of my delivery systems or voltage settings. I'm either having a bad taste bud day or my juices have changed dramatically over night.I don't want to come off as exactly how I am
Side note: When different people get Ahlusion Juices and they say theirs tastes like this or that, it is very possible that this is one of those times that no one can really say one way or another that a person is wrong. I have been chatting with Wlad and he said I can post this last message from him:
"This is a fairly common question we receive: "Why does my e-liquid [I purchased directly from Ahlusion] taste different from the sample I received from a friend?"
The reason is simple, but not quite understood as this is unique to Ahlusion, so I'll explain it as best as possible here. Every customer who has provided specific feedback in regards to their e-liquids, has a unique flavor profile. This consists of a bunch of numbers and algorightms that make up the flavor profile used by our mixing software. Say for instance that customer A's flavor profile inducates that she likes sour or bitter flavors, then all recipes for that customer will be modified accordingly. I mention recipes because by using flavor profiles, every customer essentially has his or her own recipes. This is the very simplified way of explaining this, but there's a lot more involved in the backend.
This is one reason to never expect the exact same flavors from an e-liquid received as a sample. To date we have over 700 unique flavor profiles and not one is identical to the other.
This is one reason why we send feedback requests after every order; it is to determine YOUR flavor profile and to make e-liquids the way YOU want it. It's the Ahlusion difference!" Wlad
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