After trying a few differnt brands of liquid I have been able to reach a verdict on totally wicked. Its ok. I get that peppery taste like I have read in other peoples reviews. and... does it give anyone else headaches? It gives me headaches. So now i am trying some differnt brands and no more headaches.
Totally wicked compared to other liquids. headaches
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Most current e-juices have one problem or another. None of them are taking a very scientific approach to producing quality e-juice. From what I understand TW is one of the better ones. But many have had problems with microbial contamination, dyes, non-vaproizing components, etc., etc..
Any one of those could be causing your problems IMHO.
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Any one of those could be causing your problems IMHO.
-Jake
i have been using eliquidplanet stuff the past few days and im pretty happy with it for the most part. no headaches.
give Tastyvapor a try Ive been using it for a while now and DAAM the stuff is good and its price is very fair too
Most juices come from Dekang and their facilities are absolutely flawless - photographs of their facilities were posted here. In the 10 months I've been vaping and reading I've never heard any comments regarding microbial contamination. PG is used in most juices and PG is in fact antibacterial in air I doubt any bacteria could survive being immersed in it.
> Most juices come from Dekang and their facilities are absolutely flawless
A clean facility doesn't matter if you're putting junk in your product. Dekang has been putting silly and untested products on the market for some time now. Adding vitamins and other foolishness without proper studies is both foolish and potentially dangerous.
Shoddy science in spotless facilities is still shoddy science.
This thread isn't about Dekang anyways. As far as microbial contamination I've seen it personally, so I know it can be a problem.
-Jake
A clean facility doesn't matter if you're putting junk in your product. Dekang has been putting silly and untested products on the market for some time now. Adding vitamins and other foolishness without proper studies is both foolish and potentially dangerous.
Shoddy science in spotless facilities is still shoddy science.
This thread isn't about Dekang anyways. As far as microbial contamination I've seen it personally, so I know it can be a problem.
-Jake
I don't think you have a clue what you're talking about, Dekang have produced test reports, they don't operate in a lawless jungle and China has very stiff penalties for production of dangerous consumer products.
> China has very stiff penalties for production of dangerous consumer products.
China also has a rep for shipping us hundreds of metric tons of lead contaminated child toys and producing melamine poisoned infant formula.
Again, this thread isn't even about Dekang juice. I haven't even said anything about Dekang juice other than that they put inappropriate ingredients like vitamins into their juice. Show me the report that these vitamins don't produce dangerous breakdown products or that they are even slightly bioavailable via that route and I'll shut up about it. Until then I don't give them any more credit than the garage juice makers that throw random, untested flavorings and ingredients in their juice. Just because you have clean facilities doesn't mean jack ......
That's hardly convincing to me. The fact that they have draconian punishments for just about every crime there and operate mobile "execution vans" to keep crime down just makes it worse. Almost everything in China is off the books and under the table precisely because you can be executed for almost anything over there.
I've found plenty of problems with the e-juice out there today. I'm not impressed with Dekang's quality, but they seem to have avoided most of the common problems. Other places DO have a problem with throwing in any random ingredient they decide will taste good. I've had attys last for 2 weeks on one juice only to be killed in 2 days by another brand or flavor of juice. So you can't tell me there isn't major problems with the juice out there, I've seen it with my own eyes. Some juice doesn't even wick out of the cart properly and leaves behind a sticky gunk.
I've got nothing against Dekang. The only reason I picked on them is for adding random things they shouldn't be. If they've got data to show it's ok to add those ingredients then let them defend themselves. Until then they're gambling with people's health by adding unproven ingredients for marketing value alone.
I'm working on analyzing a number of juices and I'll be sure to post the results when they're ready. I'm waiting until I have good proof and documentation before I start slamming most of the juice companies out there, precisely because I know there's plenty of people out there that believe in pretty pictures and Chinese safety certificates.
Until then use common sense. If it kills attys in a couple days you probably don't want it in your body. If it leaves a sticky goo behind in your cart it will probably kill your atty in no time flat. If it's dyed a bright color then they've added dyes you probably don't need to be inhaling. If it claims to have ingredients you know haven't been safety tested for vaporization, then don't use it.
-Jake
China also has a rep for shipping us hundreds of metric tons of lead contaminated child toys and producing melamine poisoned infant formula.
Again, this thread isn't even about Dekang juice. I haven't even said anything about Dekang juice other than that they put inappropriate ingredients like vitamins into their juice. Show me the report that these vitamins don't produce dangerous breakdown products or that they are even slightly bioavailable via that route and I'll shut up about it. Until then I don't give them any more credit than the garage juice makers that throw random, untested flavorings and ingredients in their juice. Just because you have clean facilities doesn't mean jack ......
That's hardly convincing to me. The fact that they have draconian punishments for just about every crime there and operate mobile "execution vans" to keep crime down just makes it worse. Almost everything in China is off the books and under the table precisely because you can be executed for almost anything over there.
I've found plenty of problems with the e-juice out there today. I'm not impressed with Dekang's quality, but they seem to have avoided most of the common problems. Other places DO have a problem with throwing in any random ingredient they decide will taste good. I've had attys last for 2 weeks on one juice only to be killed in 2 days by another brand or flavor of juice. So you can't tell me there isn't major problems with the juice out there, I've seen it with my own eyes. Some juice doesn't even wick out of the cart properly and leaves behind a sticky gunk.
I've got nothing against Dekang. The only reason I picked on them is for adding random things they shouldn't be. If they've got data to show it's ok to add those ingredients then let them defend themselves. Until then they're gambling with people's health by adding unproven ingredients for marketing value alone.
I'm working on analyzing a number of juices and I'll be sure to post the results when they're ready. I'm waiting until I have good proof and documentation before I start slamming most of the juice companies out there, precisely because I know there's plenty of people out there that believe in pretty pictures and Chinese safety certificates.
Until then use common sense. If it kills attys in a couple days you probably don't want it in your body. If it leaves a sticky goo behind in your cart it will probably kill your atty in no time flat. If it's dyed a bright color then they've added dyes you probably don't need to be inhaling. If it claims to have ingredients you know haven't been safety tested for vaporization, then don't use it.
-Jake
I only have one complaint about TW juices. I had three very distinct juices that should have had very distinct flavors and they all tasted exactly the same. Well, the vanilla did have a hint of vanilla but hilton should not taste like vanilla and should not taste like straight tobacco ...they were all tasty however.
I thought it was me at first but got a shipment of juices from another supplier and could taste those juices just fine.
I thought it was me at first but got a shipment of juices from another supplier and could taste those juices just fine.
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