Tpa flavor help

[Dreaded Vapour]

If anyone has any advice on proper flavor percentage range for TPA brand Red Type Blend, Cowboy Blend Flavor & DK tobacco Base Flavor it would be greatly appreciated. After spending 6 hours on this forum I haven't been able to come up with anything for these flavors.

 

[crxess]

Spend a lot less time looking and just do a little posting, replying to others to get your post count up. Then you can post your question in the e-liquids DIY section.
Sorry, I left tobacco flavors behind before starting DIY, so can't help.

 

[Dreaded Vapour]

Will do, thanks for the tip...

 

[Papadragon]

Get a rda test a 3% if your don't like dry the wick test at 4% and so on till you get what you like I do mine to start at 5%

 

[fabricator4]

If anyone has any advice on proper flavor percentage range for TPA brand Red Type Blend, Cowboy Blend Flavor & DK Tobacco Base Flavor it would be greatly appreciated. After spending 6 hours on this forum I haven't been able to come up with anything for these flavors.

The DK tobacco, start at 3%. I wouldn't recommend going over 5%

The other two I don't know, but TPA flavours are typically very strong so maybe treat them the same way.

If you don't know a flavour you can always do a drop test - for TPA flavours I'd recommend a 40 drop test - get 39 drops of PG/VG at whatever ratio and nic content you like, then add one drop of flavour. That's 2.5% flavour. Taste a bit, add another drop as required. Keep going until you get something you like. The you make up 5ml and try that for while, then go to 10ml and so on.

For weaker flavours a 20 drop test is usually sufficient.

Obviously, a dripping atomiser is the best thing to test flavours with.

 

[Dreaded Vapour]

Cool, I'll have to try this out...

 

[Dreaded Vapour]

What is a Rda test?

 

[Papadragon]

Sorry a test on a rebuildable driping atomizer vape your juice if u don't like it add more flavor and on a rda you can test 2 or 3 drops at a time !

 

[fabricator4]

What is a Rda test?

An RDA is a Rebuildable Dripping Atomiser.

I use a Phoenix and a Tower, two commonly available RDAs however you don't have to go the rebuildable route if you don't want to.

This is a 306 bridgeless dripping atomiser which needs a different size drip tip, or you could search for a 510 bridgeless atomiser. You just replace these when they don't work any more - they are not rebuildable.

 

[IceMan7]

The DK tobacco, start at 3%. I wouldn't recommend going over 5%

The other two I don't know, but TPA flavours are typically very strong so maybe treat them the same way.

If you don't know a flavour you can always do a drop test - for TPA flavours I'd recommend a 40 drop test - get 39 drops of PG/VG at whatever ratio and nic content you like, then add one drop of flavour. That's 2.5% flavour. Taste a bit, add another drop as required. Keep going until you get something you like. The you make up 5ml and try that for while, then go to 10ml and so on.

For weaker flavours a 20 drop test is usually sufficient.

Obviously, a dripping atomiser is the best thing to test flavours with.

If you do a "40 drop" flavor test and add more than 1 drop of flavor, doesn't this change the percentage of your base mix with each drop of flavor you add?

I'm a little confused as I've only been DIY'ing for a week or so.

You say 1 drop is 2.5%.... So does that mean if you add 10 drops of flavor, you're at 25% flavor and 75% base mix?

Thanks,
Steve

"It seems the harder I think, the less I know when I'm done!"

 

[fabricator4]

If you do a "40 drop" flavor test and add more than 1 drop of flavor, doesn't this change the percentage of your base mix with each drop of flavor you add?

Yes, your base will get progressively weaker. This is just testing, to give you the rough idea of what the flavours are going to do. You just have to keep in mind roughly where you are at. Once you've got a better idea, start another drop test, so say you are doing a 20 drop test and want to try 3 three drops (15% in this case) and 1 drop (5%) then you go 16 drops of base, 3 drops flavour A and 1 drop flavour B and so on.

I'm a little confused as I've only been DIY'ing for a week or so.

Don't over think it. This is shoot from the hip easy DIY. Do take notes though, it's easy to get mixed up as to exactly what you did. Before going to a larger batch it might pay to do another drop test starting from scratch, just to verify what you think is correct. I recommend (if I haven't already in this thread) that you shoot for a weaker flavour overall. Really strong flavours can be nice, but after half an hour they can get sickly and turn you off completely.

You say 1 drop is 2.5%.... So does that mean if you add 10 drops of flavor, you're at 25% flavor and 75% base mix?

That is correct for a 40 drop test yes, 10 drops of flavour, 30 drops of base. One drop in a 20 drop test is 5%. 1/20*100=5% or 1/40*100=2.5% for a 40 drop test. Some people just prefer to work in ratios first - 1:20 3:40 and so on. It's easy enough to convert to percentages later.

Once you think you have something make up 10ml of it and try it out. I recommend you try it in these small batches for up to a week before you go larger. I have mixes that I decided that I didn't like after 3 or 4 ml, and others I wasn't sure about until I'd made up 3 small batches.

Also, at this point you are going to have to know exactly how many drops you get to the ml with your equipment. Juice calculators usually assume 20 drops/ml but this is hardly ever the case. Just look at your 20 drop test or whatever. A whole ml? possibly half a ml or even less. I work on 50 drops/ml as tested by dripping PG into a 2ml syringe and then halving the number of drops to get the number for 1ml. It depends on the size of the dripper, the temperature and viscosity.