I am looking into buying my first mod and am looking for some help in choosing it. I have narrowed down my choices to the MVP 3.0 Pro and sigelei 75w. I am looking for something that I can carry with me all day and use. So I want something I can throw in my pocket or backpack. I want want something that feels nice in the hand and is built well. Also one of the difficult decision is choosing between the ease of internal battery and the utility of a replaceable battery.
Trying to Decide between the MVP 3.0 Pro and the Sigelei 75w
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I use a replaceable battery mod while at home in my office. When I need a new battery I just pop the old one out into the charger and the new one in. When I'm out an about I use an internal battery mod so I don't have to worry about carrying a spare battery with me. You would need a safe way to carry the extra battery like a case or silicone sleeve. I prefer less is better when I'm on the go. Either mod will be a nice choice for you.
Hi and welcome to the board. Both of those should be good to excellent choices. The MVP 3.0 Pro has been out for a while and gets great reviews. The Siggie 75 is brand new but, like the Innokin part, it comes from a well respected company with a solid rep for quality. Let me give you a couple points to ponder:
1) I don't view those as being in the same class, really. I think of the MVP as being a large and powerful convenience device and the Sig to be a small, lower powered, but top grade mod. That's not to say the MVP is bad gear, but rather it had a different design philosophy. I feel sure the MVP will be easier to use, if you don't mind being tethered to the wall while it charges. Getting the Sig is not as "plug and play" as the MVP will be, you have to carry spare batteries, etc.
2) I am personally sold on replaceable batteries. I like IMR chemistry better than LiPos-- they're safer-- and I like the convenience of slipping in a fresh battery when the old one dies, and recharging when it's convenient for me, not the mod. I further like the use of a stand-alone charger. I think they take better care of your batteries than any dime-sized convenience board can. Batteries are expensive to replace and dangerous when mishandled. This just makes sense to me. I also like removeables because an on-board battery means it's a disposa-mod. When the battery goes south, you throw the whole thing away and get a new one. WIth replaceables, you just get another battery, and can continue using the same box and electronics. And back to the charger, if you buy a good one-- I use the Xtar VC4-- you can keep an eye on your batteries and monitor them over their useful working life for capacity and voltage, replacing them *before* they go out, so you don't get stuck the night before vacation not having any batteries to take.
3) I think TC is the coming thing. I wouldn't recommend anybody spend that kind of money on a mod nowadays without the temp circuits. I have two--a Snow Wolf and a SX Mini M-- and I love them all to pieces. I still have, and love, and use, all my old mechs. And I might one day pick up a box or two that is only VW to round out the collection and because I am queer for gear. But if you don't have a lot of mods laying around, go for the TC.
4) I don't have either of them, and I want both. You make the call as to which one first
1) I don't view those as being in the same class, really. I think of the MVP as being a large and powerful convenience device and the Sig to be a small, lower powered, but top grade mod. That's not to say the MVP is bad gear, but rather it had a different design philosophy. I feel sure the MVP will be easier to use, if you don't mind being tethered to the wall while it charges. Getting the Sig is not as "plug and play" as the MVP will be, you have to carry spare batteries, etc.
2) I am personally sold on replaceable batteries. I like IMR chemistry better than LiPos-- they're safer-- and I like the convenience of slipping in a fresh battery when the old one dies, and recharging when it's convenient for me, not the mod. I further like the use of a stand-alone charger. I think they take better care of your batteries than any dime-sized convenience board can. Batteries are expensive to replace and dangerous when mishandled. This just makes sense to me. I also like removeables because an on-board battery means it's a disposa-mod. When the battery goes south, you throw the whole thing away and get a new one. WIth replaceables, you just get another battery, and can continue using the same box and electronics. And back to the charger, if you buy a good one-- I use the Xtar VC4-- you can keep an eye on your batteries and monitor them over their useful working life for capacity and voltage, replacing them *before* they go out, so you don't get stuck the night before vacation not having any batteries to take.
3) I think TC is the coming thing. I wouldn't recommend anybody spend that kind of money on a mod nowadays without the temp circuits. I have two--a Snow Wolf and a SX Mini M-- and I love them all to pieces. I still have, and love, and use, all my old mechs. And I might one day pick up a box or two that is only VW to round out the collection and because I am queer for gear. But if you don't have a lot of mods laying around, go for the TC.
4) I don't have either of them, and I want both. You make the call as to which one first
The MVP Pro 3 tops out at 60 watts while the Sigelei tops out at 75 watts, so the Sigelei is more powerful than the MVP 3 Pro.
I am planning on going back to replaceable battery mods when all my 'internals' start to fail/die.
A year or so ago, for the money, the internals were so cheap compared to a replaceable. Now, I don't see that as the case.
My Sigelei (with battery) was the same price as an iStick. I expect it to be around longer.
Compare the prices of mods in the performance bracket you are interested in (30-50 watts, guessing) and make up your own mind.
A year or so ago, for the money, the internals were so cheap compared to a replaceable. Now, I don't see that as the case.
My Sigelei (with battery) was the same price as an iStick. I expect it to be around longer.
Compare the prices of mods in the performance bracket you are interested in (30-50 watts, guessing) and make up your own mind.
You are perfectly correct, of course. For the life of me, on re-reading, I can't see where I said anything different, but if something I wrote gave the impression the MVP is of equal or greater power to the SIg 75, this is incorrect and @jseah is correct to point this out.
If I had to choose between the two, I would choose the Sigelei. I have both and I hardly ever use my MVP 3 Pro. The MVP 3 Pro has an edge because of the long life of the internal battery, but the Sigelei 75 is smaller and has temp control.
It just seemed odd because you wrote that the MVP 3 Pro was "powerful", and then referred to the Sigelei 75 as "lower powered". Here is my Sigelei 75 side by side with the MVP 3 Pro. They're the same width, the Sigelei is shorter, but the Sigelei is a little bit thicker.
Ah, I get it. No, I meant to imply the difference in design philosophies I see in the two parts. The MVP is self evidently designed to compete in the internal battery, ease of use market, and it is the big boy on the block. Whereas the Sig is more what I think of as a high-end mod, but toward the lower power range of such pieces. I envy you having both of them, but just so you don't get away with it entirely...
for people relatively new (3 months, and especially less than 1 month) I recommend a fixed battery mod; keeps it simple.
then once you get settled in you look for replaceable battery mods for the longhaul.
then every month or 3 you buy a pair of batteries to beef up your arsenal.
Ya that is the advantage I see in MVP. Being able to charge and have one thing to carry around would be nice.
I agree with your first point the Sigelei seems to include all the latest technology and I like that. I also like the idea of replaceable batteries and not having to replace a whole device when a battery dies.Hi and welcome to the board. Both of those should be good to excellent choices. The MVP 3.0 Pro has been out for a while and gets great reviews. The Siggie 75 is brand new but, like the Innokin part, it comes from a well respected company with a solid rep for quality. Let me give you a couple points to ponder:
1) I don't view those as being in the same class, really. I think of the MVP as being a large and powerful convenience device and the Sig to be a small, lower powered, but top grade mod. That's not to say the MVP is bad gear, but rather it had a different design philosophy. I feel sure the MVP will be easier to use, if you don't mind being tethered to the wall while it charges. Getting the Sig is not as "plug and play" as the MVP will be, you have to carry spare batteries, etc.
2) I am personally sold on replaceable batteries. I like IMR chemistry better than LiPos-- they're safer-- and I like the convenience of slipping in a fresh battery when the old one dies, and recharging when it's convenient for me, not the mod. I further like the use of a stand-alone charger. I think they take better care of your batteries than any dime-sized convenience board can. Batteries are expensive to replace and dangerous when mishandled. This just makes sense to me. I also like removeables because an on-board battery means it's a disposa-mod. When the battery goes south, you throw the whole thing away and get a new one. WIth replaceables, you just get another battery, and can continue using the same box and electronics. And back to the charger, if you buy a good one-- I use the Xtar VC4-- you can keep an eye on your batteries and monitor them over their useful working life for capacity and voltage, replacing them *before* they go out, so you don't get stuck the night before vacation not having any batteries to take.
3) I think TC is the coming thing. I wouldn't recommend anybody spend that kind of money on a mod nowadays without the temp circuits. I have two--a Snow Wolf and a SX Mini M-- and I love them all to pieces. I still have, and love, and use, all my old mechs. And I might one day pick up a box or two that is only VW to round out the collection and because I am queer for gear. But if you don't have a lot of mods laying around, go for the TC.
4) I don't have either of them, and I want both. You make the call as to which one first
I agree having a device with the extra features and replaceable batteries at close to the price to a device with internal batteries is nice. Especially because the device with replaceable batteries should last longer.
I definitely like the size, shape and look better on the segelei. What I am trying to decide for myself is if sacrificing all that and having a more powerful device is worth losing some convenience. I don't see having to charge batteries as being to inconvenient, but it is certainly less so than charging the device itself.
I am assuming your concern is that I will choose the wrong batteries, store them improperly or something along those lines. I would like to say that is fair, but I am not a person to just buy any device shove batteries in it and start using it. Before going into something like this I will read up and know what not to do.
I would just like to thank you all for your input. You have given me a lot to consider in purchasing my new device.
Hi jamesbu, I use the MVP every day, would highly recommend it though it's not for throwing in a pocket
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