Trying to get the most out of my EVOD and failing

[medic181075]

I finally decided to start vaping about 3 weeks ago. I purchased a Vaporzone Pro (EVOD style) starter kit. After some initial noobie trial and error, I finally began to get a positive vaping experience. Only one problem remained, I still had issues with flooding the atomizer. Not from use, but more from lack of use. A tissue over the drip tip with a few good shakes would solve the problem.

Anyway, I began to look for ways to solve this. After some on-line research, I found that the Kangertech Mini Protank 3 doesn't seem to suffer from this common problem. I immediately notice that this clearomizer comes with a 1.5 ohm atty. My EVOD style tank has a 2.2 ohm atty. I decided to order a package of 2.0 ohm attys to complement my new clearomizers with my 3.7v battery. So, to make a short story long ... this setup doesn't produce the thick vapor that I can get with the stock tank of the starter kit. It just doesn't seem to work anywhere as well.

Do I need to drop to the 1.5 ohm atty or upgrade to a VV battery?

 

[Sploosh]

I have found that the evod works best with the stock coils. I never found a way to reproduce the stock experience using anything else. Also, the flooding can be caused by not screwing the coil in tight, or if you have something blocking one or more of the airflow holes on the evod. Make sure to soak the base in hot water once in a while and blow it out. Also, watch your fingers on the air holes.

If you want to start customizing your experience or building coils then a VV setup may be the way to go. I would advise you to not waste your time and money with a spinner. Maybe an iTaste MVP and an Aerotank/Nautilus would be a good step. Aerotanks are dual coil at about 2.0. Many people, including myself, have rebuilt the coils in the Aerotank. This may be a good first step if you want to get into rebuilding.

Before you go the rebuildable route, spend a lot of time on research and educate yourself. You can chase a "problem" with upgrades all you want, but in the end your ability to build and wick properly has the biggest impact on experience.

 

[DavidOck]

Hi Medic, and welcome to ECF.

Good that you've made the switch!

I don't have a PT3 mini, but do have some PT2 minis (among maybe too many other toppers! ), and some Evods. The Evods use a single coil, the PT3 mini uses dual. It might be that your battery just can't put enough power to the dual coil. In which case a battery change might be in order. And VV or VW is certainly a good step to consider, so you can adjust to any resistance coil you come across. (Within reason, of course!)

Might also be the difference in the air flow / draw. You might try blocking one (or more) of the holes in the side of the base of the PT to see if that gets back towards the draw on the Evod.

Leaking can be caused by a variety of things. I've had new toppers arrive with the head loose in the base. Leaks. I've had them arrive with the flavor wicks (under the chimney - wiggle it off) laid wrong. Leaks. And there's the rare unit that's cracked or incorrectly assembled, leaking everywhere. (Not usually fixable!)

Drawing too hard can also cause leaks as it will pull too much liquid over the coil and up the chimney.

Most hardware has it's own peculiarities, and we just need to figure out how to deal with them. The Evod is generally a good performer, I still have a few in rotation, although I generally use toppers with bigger capacity these days.

 

[CountBoredom]

Hi Medic. Congratulations on taking the vaping plunge and welcome to ECF!

The Protank 3 Mini coils are dual coils (compared to the Evod coils with are single). What this means is that your battery actually needs to provide more power to the coils to generate a similar experience.

 

[pokemom]

FYI the vapor zone pro works great with a pro tank III, I've been doing it for months!


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[rurwin]

Every tank wicks differently. I can run an RBA at twice the power I can run a Protank II with the same resistance coils.

With a dual coil system, each coil is twice the resistance, so your 1.5 ohm heads have 3 ohm coils, and your 2.0 ohm heads have 4.0 ohm coils. It would probably require more voltage than your battery can put out to run 4 ohm coils, which is why they are not working well. If you had a VV battery then you could increase the voltage to suit, but you can't.

Once you have your coils heating up right, then a dual-coil head produces twice the amount of vapour, and takes twice the current from the battery. So your 1.5 ohm dual-coil head will produce twice the vapour of a similar single-coil 3.0 ohm head, and your battery will last half as long.

 

[medic181075]

FYI the vapor zone pro works great with a pro tank III, I've been doing it for months!


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Great, thanks for the info, but that doesn't answer my question. Which atty do you have in your protank 3?

Looks like I may switch out the atty for the 1.5 ohm that was supplied with the mini protank.

 

[frjaldomr]

If you stick with the 3.7V battery, you'll have to keep using lower ohm coils.
If you have a VV, you can use different ohm coils, and adjust the power output to compensate.

 

[pokemom]

I use the 1.8


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[medic181075]

I use the 1.8

The only options for Protank 3's are 1.5 ohm and 2.0 ohm.

For the record, I switched out the 2.0 for the 1.5 and it solved the problem. It now produces the vapor that I am used to with the stock setup.

 

[edyle]

I finally decided to start vaping about 3 weeks ago. I purchased a Vaporzone Pro (EVOD style) starter kit. After some initial noobie trial and error, I finally began to get a positive vaping experience. Only one problem remained, I still had issues with flooding the atomizer. Not from use, but more from lack of use. A tissue over the drip tip with a few good shakes would solve the problem.

Anyway, I began to look for ways to solve this. After some on-line research, I found that the Kangertech Mini Protank 3 doesn't seem to suffer from this common problem. I immediately notice that this clearomizer comes with a 1.5 ohm atty. My EVOD style tank has a 2.2 ohm atty. I decided to order a package of 2.0 ohm attys to complement my new clearomizers with my 3.7v battery. So, to make a short story long ... this setup doesn't produce the thick vapor that I can get with the stock tank of the starter kit. It just doesn't seem to work anywhere as well.

Do I need to drop to the 1.5 ohm atty or upgrade to a VV battery?

Bottom coil clearos have holes at the bottom because the coil is at the bottom, so if you leave the clearo upright, gravity tends to leak liquid down through the hole and flood the coil;

To prevent that from happening you can just store the tank upside down instead.


A vv battery would be greate; mvp2 or else an itaste vv v3.

===edit===
oh; just noticed the new tank is a miniprotank 3 which is a dual coil; it needs more power to drive it than a single coil would. Definitely need higher voltage.

 

[soulcatcher]

I have Evods and the ProTank2. The only time that I have had leaking issues was when I did not have enough wick. If you have a bit a patience I would try re-wicking w/ cotton. I got much better vapor and flavor that route vs. tossing my still usable heads.

I have used stock heads and re-built heads for my 3.7v as well as VV/VW APV, and app. 1.7-2.2ohms seems to be the sweet spot for both. If you really wanna bump up the vapor then VV/VW is gonna be the way to go.

PM me if you need help re-wicking with cotton. Def takes trial and error, but the results speak volumes

 

[CountBoredom]

The only options for Protank 3's are 1.5 ohm and 2.0 ohm.

For the record, I switched out the 2.0 for the 1.5 and it solved the problem. It now produces the vapor that I am used to with the stock setup.

Glad to hear that you got your PT3 Mini issue sorted. It's a really great tank if you treat it well.

 

[pokemom]

The only options for Protank 3's are 1.5 ohm and 2.0 ohm.

For the record, I switched out the 2.0 for the 1.5 and it solved the problem. It now produces the vapor that I am used to with the stock setup.

Really???

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[Bunnykiller]

imagine filling a bucket with a garden hose....( single coil) and then trying to fill 2 buckets ( dual coil) at the same time with the same garden hose in the same amount of time... aint gonna happen.. what to do?? get a bigger hose with a stronger flow rate ( bigger battery higher amp rating) its a silly analogy but its what came to mind...

 

[Bob Chill]

As others have said, a VV/VW device will take care of things pretty quickly. I only run tanks on VV/VW. Makes life simple. You can get an itaste 3.0 on fastech for $24. I usually leave mine in VW mode. Battery life is only 800mahs on those devices. I mostly use Vamo's, SID's, and Zmaxes. Good middle of the road mods that can take a beating.

It's set and forget with watts. Resistance is compensated for by watts so any ohm works mostly the same at the same wattage. I personally prefer 7 watts on all tanks and 10-12 on my drippers. Once you find your preferred wattage you'll forget all about what ohm head you are using.

 

[medic181075]

Pokemom, I will agree that it is on the back of the box, but I have yet to find a retailer that offers 1.8 ohm attys for the Mini Protank 3. Also, the 2.0 ohm box is checked on the back of the box in the photo.

For others, I think I have determined that the VaporZone Pro battery is struggling to deal with the dual coil atty. It seems to have more difficulties with some e-liquids than with other e-liquids. I just ordered a couple itaste 3.0 batteries. Hopefully they will do the job. Until then, I may switch back to the stock tanks that came with my starter kit.

Thanks for the help.

 

[medic181075]

The itaste v3.0 arrived yesterday. I have been trying to adjust settings, trial and error style. I have found that the battery seems to work well with a full charge, but quickly becomes problematic after about 20 to 30 puffs. It looks like these tanks need a bigger battery. The battery produces much better and fuller vapor with the EVOD tank.

Being that I carry it with me all day, size is does matter. Looks like I am gonna drop back to the Mini Protank 2 with a single coil atty.

 

[CountBoredom]

The itaste v3.0 arrived yesterday. I have been trying to adjust settings, trial and error style. I have found that the battery seems to work well with a full charge, but quickly becomes problematic after about 20 to 30 puffs. It looks like these tanks need a bigger battery. The battery produces much better and fuller vapor with the EVOD tank.

Being that I carry it with me all day, size is does matter. Looks like I am gonna drop back to the Mini Protank 2 with a single coil atty.

The V3 should provide pretty consistent power until nearly empty. What settings are you using and what tank?