Upgraded after 1-1/2yrs of thin ecigs, need something bigger but short

[Wow1420]

Many of the devices people are mentioning in this thread are rather large/long. If you like the evod style kits, other than the length, you could get a u-stand to make it shorter $5.80 2-Post Display Stand Holder w/ Drip Tip Adapter at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping. The battery screws on one side and the clearomizer(tank) on the other side. You'll want a clearomizer/tank with a removable drip tip, so the tip can be angled off to the side (The original style Evod clearo has a fixed drip tip).

I carry around a mini 350mah ego with a standard cartomizer. It's not the type of thing that would get you through a whole day, but for a few quick vape breaks, it's perfect for me. The battery alone is about 2 3/8 inches long. A 650mag ego battery is about 3 inches long.

There's also a "gripper" mod Gripper which looks to be pretty short, it's designed to hold a XL size catromizer side-by-side with the battery. You'd need a separate charger and batteries. The down-side is that it's not regulated, so the battery voltage drops as it's used, starting at 4.2 volts when freshly charge and dropping down to 3.7 or lower where you'd want to swap out to a fresh batter.

 

[Ed_C]

Let's try again. It seems like everyone wants to suggest mechanical mods, but it sounds like that's not something you want to get evolved with.The V2 batteries are only 380 mAh for the long ones, so even a standard 650 mAh eGo battery will give you better life. The eGo type batteries go from 650 mAh to 1300 mAh, These are like the V2 batteries only bigger. If you want something that has replaceable batteries, there's many options such as the Sigelei Zmax V3/V5 or Mini. The Mini takes 18350 batteries only, which are rated at 700 mAh, the V3 and V5 are telescoping and will take all three sizes of 18XXX batteries. 18350=700 mAh, 18490=1100 mAh, 18650=2000 mAh. Each size up will add about 15mm to the length, but will give you more battery life. The Innokin iTaste VV3s and MVPs are also very popular models, but don't have replaceable batteries. They are both a bit over 100mm. The VV3 is a square tube, 15 x 15mm and the MVP is a box 41 x 22 x 107mm. I've used the VV3s and besides the first one that crapped out, the other two I bought, have been great. The MVP is extremely popular and has a whopping 2600 mAh of battery and will last 2-3 days before a charge. The VV2s can be had for about $25-30 and the MVPs for around $40. The Zmax can be found for <$50, but you'll need to buy batteries and a charger. All the above APVs allow for adjustment of wattage or voltage. The eGo batteries have an adjustable voltage version called a Spinner or Twist. Hope this helps.

 

[charly1954]

......There's also a "gripper" mod Gripper which looks to be pretty short, it's designed to hold a XL size catromizer side-by-side with the battery. You'd need a separate charger and batteries. The down-side is that it's not regulated, so the battery voltage drops as it's used, starting at 4.2 volts when freshly charge and dropping down to 3.7 or lower where you'd want to swap out to a fresh batter.

The gripper or side by side looks like it might be ok, but would rather just have a short one piece so I could carry at least 2 in my pocket.....

For the voltage droping, I never thought about that. But that would be how my V2 and Mistic ecigs worked. V2 started at 4.19 and stoped working around 3.75. I never notice the vapor amount dropping until the bat was almost drained down. But I can see how maybe a Variable Volt adjustment would be nice.

Everyone posting has done me allot of good, its like getting schooled. Bad thing is in a few ks I will have forgoten it, the 60yr old brain just don't work like it used to.

There's a dummy book for allot of things, is there a one for E-cigs for dummies?

 

[danca90]

For cigalikes, a lot of reviews are raving over mig cig. Might be the one for you, if you don't want ego.

 

[charly1954]

Another reason I want to switch to something else is the way I have to refill the carts. I have to pour juice into tiny caps then slide cart into the cap, the clean out the threaded end. Its all a pain in the .... for a 1mm fill. I would think a tank or clearomizer would be easier, just pour in the juice and its done. No cleanup.

 

[jimbill]

Here is a nice and small 14500 battery mod it comes with ( 2) 14500 batteries , (2) CE5 Atomizers, (1) US Charger, (1) Zipper case
L-Rider Robust Electronic Cigarette

 

[PLANofMAN]

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1. Don't want one of those big/LONG baseball bat size E-cigs, need something compact I can slide in my front jeans pocket. Around 5 inches or less total length.
2. Would like to be able to be able to remove and replace the battery inside.
3. I make my own juice, with V2 ecigs I carried 2-3 in my pants pocket, all with different flavors and Nic strengths. So I would like to be able to put at least 2 in my pocket.
4. Be able to replace the coil assembly instead of tossing the hole tank.
5. Prefer to buy in the USA incase I need parts shipped fast. Fasttech has some great prices but long ways to ship. I liked this one but can't swap out the battery and about 6" long, but 2 for $20 is a great price. http://www.fasttech.com/products/0/10004766/1368602-ego-evod-6-in-1-rechargeable-900mah-electronic-cig
6. I like to have on hand several different tanks/carts so when I tire of one flavor I just swap out tanks.

You have a few options. Honestly, very few that will work within your guidelines above.
You could go with a mod that uses 14500 batteries. To give you an idea of the size, a 14500 battery is the same size as an AA battery. They are usually 16-17 mm wide, and there are not very many varieties made. On the other hand, the prices for these are typically very good, between $50-$100. Overall length could be an issue, because most atomizers that are smaller than 18mm wide tend to be longer, to increase e-liquid capacity. Also, most of the smaller tank style atomizers have eGo, rather than 510 threading. So you would need to have a 510 to eGo adapter to be able to use the widest variety of tank atomizers.

Your other alternative is to pick a mod that uses 18350 batteries. These are shorter than 14500 batteries, but are also wider. Mods that use these tend to be 22 mm wide, and fairly heavy, compared to an eGo style battery mod. The shortest 18350 mod is the 4nine mod, which, surprise, happens to be 49 mm tall, before the atomizer is added.

You might want to look into the Microstick mod. It uses an 18350 battery in a side by side configuration with an atomizer. If you want to start getting into rebuildable atomizers, the Pheonix A7 will work with the Microstick and is affordable enough to buy several. If you would prefer to just buy replacement coils, the Aspire Mini Vivi Nova will also work with the Microstick. The one below is shown with a Spheroid rebuildable atomizer, the most popular choice for this mod.

For an idea of it's size, it will fit into the coin/watch pocket of a pair of denim jeans.

 

[daveyp]

V4L's VV handle + 18650 batt is on sale for $20, or with a 6ml tank and 30ml e-liq for $28. Bought two kits myself. ive never used one yet but its small and looks pretty nice for the price, maybe not as fancy as the stainless steel ones pictured here.

 

[jasonandalysha]

+1 for the microstick!!

 

[Ed_C]

The OP said he did not want a mech. The MicroStick is a mech.

Looks like the Mech Mods are just a battery holder with a switch, right? This is the only type where a person can remove and replace the actual battery when it goes bad, is that right? But from research you have to know what ur doing with Mech Mods in matching up the battery with the coil ohms. Which is all over my head and I don't care to get into.

So it looks like for me the best bet is the Kanger ProTank II Mini's XJ talked about or the hades jm mentioned.

Bottom line. Need it compact(short) and able to replace coil assembly when it goes bad. That way I don't have to throw the whole tank(cartmizer or clearmizer) away. If I can't get one w/battery replacement I'll just have to go without, thats how V2 bats was.

I'm in a small town with 2 tobacco stores that have very limited Ecig supplies. And what they have is pricey compared to online. So I'll be buying online somewhere.

 

[charly1954]

The OP said he did not want a mech. The MicroStick is a mech.

Yes I said that. But only because I read u have to match up a coil's ohms/volts with what every Mod you buy or battery thats in it. I am going to do some more research on that so maybe I can understand it and may be able to go with a mod. SInce the 18350 battery is only about 2" tall, I may be able to get what I want using that battery and a mini tank or clearomizer.

Let me ask this question. Will these work together.

Here's 7 clearomizers for $20 and if the coils go bad I can replace them. Says 66.5 mm tall, that 2.6".
$19.34 Mini Vivi Tank Bottom Coil Clearomizers (2.0mL / 7-Pack) 7-pack - 2.4ohm / metal drip tip at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

The clearsomizers say ego threads and Compatible with eGo, eGo-T, eGo-W, eGo-C, eGo-K batteries so all I need to find is a short battery. Will these one work?

eGo 350mAh Rechargeable Mini Batteries for E-Cigarette (8-Pack), 2.2" long
$29.57 eGo 350mAh Rechargeable Mini Batteries for E-Cigarette (8-Pack) 8-pack - ships one of each color at FastTech - Worldwide Free Shipping

KangerTech 650mAh eVod eGo BatteryAuthentic KangerTech 650mAh eVod eGo Battery
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Authentic-K...aultDomain_0&hash=item27e6b28807#ht_181wt_749

One last question. I know on my V2 bats the same charger works on different V2 mAh bats. So Will a charger that charges a 900mAh battery work on batteries with allot less mAh? Or do you have to buy chargers to fit the mAh?

 

[danca90]

Those two will work together.
As for the V2, that should work, but I don't have any v2's.
If you go the 8 ego mini route, you might want to get several chargers. They won't last long. At that point, 1 1000 mah ego would take up less pocket real-estate than enough minis to get you through a day.

 

[Dj Xy]

I would recommend the Kanger Evod kit Adirondack Vapor - Genuine Kanger Evod Kit
My girlfriend has this kit and it works decently, plus they give you a free bottle of juice (I recommend Placid)

 

[charly1954]

Those two will work together.
As for the V2, that should work, but I don't have any v2's.
If you go the 8 ego mini route, you might want to get several chargers. They won't last long. At that point, 1 1000 mah ego would take up less pocket real-estate than enough minis to get you through a day.

OH, the V2 charger will not work on ego. V2 charger threads are female and they are KR808D-1/E-8 threads. What I was getting at is the V2 charger worked with the different mAh, the shortys I used was 140mAh and standard was 190mAh.

U didn't read my first thread, small/compact is what I want because I like to vap 2-3 different flavors so I need something compact so I can fit 2-3 in my pocket. If I had one big one I would have to be changing tanks every 10-15 minutes when I wanted a different flavor.

I am used to carrying 1 Tobacco flavor(12 or 18 Nic), 1 Vanillia(zero Nic), and another w/no nic. I am trying to give up or cut way back on NIC. I vap the 2 w/no Nic then when I get ansy I hit the Tobacco. Thats why I need a short compact setup so I can carry 2-3.

 

[charly1954]

I would recommend the Kanger Evod kit Adirondack Vapor - Genuine Kanger Evod Kit
My girlfriend has this kit and it works decently, plus they give you a free bottle of juice (I recommend Placid)

Tks for the tip, I think its the exact kit as my #2 post. At the Kangertech site it says 137mm long, thats 5.4" so thats not to bad. Still would like to get under 5" if I can but it may be hard to do that.
Kanger Evod 2 Starter Kit New and Improved V2 in Six Colors | eBay

Ebays has Free S&H and cost a little less. No juice comes with it but I make my own, cost me less than 80¢/10ml.

 

[charly1954]

As I said using a Mech Mod I read u have to match the coil's ohm with it. So according to the chart below, say if I got a Mod what wasn't VV and the battery was 5 volts. I would need a coil with ohms somewhere between 3 and 6. If I used anything less there's a chance I could burnup the coil. Is that right?

 

[DavidOck]

There would be the risk of that, or at least burning the juice and not having a good flavor.

But you're not going to find a fixed voltage device - mech or regulated - that puts out 5 volts. A freshly charged Lion is going to be 4.2 or 4.1. Most of the non-VV/VW devices put out either 3.7 or 3.2.

Lions typically don't stay at full voltage long, but fall off fairly rapidly to 3.8, stay there a (relatively) long time, then drop off. (I usually put mine to charge around 3.6, on the idea that they like to be charged early and often, not like Ni-Cads.) On a mech, no way to monitor voltage until you notice the vape going away. Regulated mods, wither fixed or VV, attempt to boost the voltage to their rated (or dialed in) value until they can no longer reach that, then turn off.

 

[charly1954]

Since I'll be getting the return label for all my V2 bats and chargers in 1-2 days and I've not ordered anything online to replace them. I had to go to the tobacco store today and buy something to use until I can't decide on what to order.

I got a Aqua Vapor ego ce4 kit for $20. Its the length I was looking for at 5". Says it has a 3.7v Li-Polymer but doesn't say the mAh. The women said its 650 and Aquavapor online says that so I guess its 650mah. Battery part seemed pretty short for a 650, thought a 650 would be longer than 2.75".

Anyone else use this one? The cloud seems good, a little more than my V2s but nothing to get excited about. Seems ok for right now but I think when I order, I'll get a couple with VV and 4 or 5 spare tanks with replacement coils.

 

[DavidOck]

That seems about right for a fixed voltage 650, iirc. Haven't used anything that low in mAh - or non VV - in quite a while, but without the electronics to vary, they do come significantly shorter.

If you like and stay with the top coils, be aware that many of the CE4 models are NOT coil replaceable. Those with replaceable coils are often called CE4+, CE5, Stardust, etc.

 

[daveyp]

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