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A couple of points.
One. I have been vaping for almost 2 years and have never seen north of 11 watts - even with my RBA/RDAs.
Two. Overkill is possible and dictated by the user. One could assume based on the post count and current set-up that they are still pretty new.
Three. I understand the whole "just skip all the steps I took and go to the end" thought process but to spend higher dollar amounts of items you likely don't really understand, nor sure you will even like it having not tried it or anything like it isn't really financially smart. Although I personally don't believe that $80 is that much money, especially for vape gear..........others may.
Your suggestion, although very valid and a good one is the equivalent of someone stating that they currently have a bicycle and was thinking about something with two wheels but motorized and suggesting a Honda Harley-knockoff.
Everyone is different and we all evolved to where we are now as vapers. Some of this stuff requires some education and the OP may try RBA/RDA and find that they don't like it. I have them but I don't carry them around personally but I had to learn that. A lot of us got there by trying stuff............ slowly. We make smarter purchases as a result in my opinion.
Sometimes the answer isn't jumping in the pool with all your clothes on and your wallet and cell phone in your pocket. Sometimes, you dip your feet in first.
Respectfully.
You forgot the most important part though.
The MVP is disposable. It's $40+ for something you know for a fact you're going to throw away.
I just have a real problem with that when you can get a device that has replacable parts for less than the cost of a second MVP. The fact that it can do more is just a bonus. If he never goes to 30 watts, that's fine, but he still has a mod that he can replace the battery in when it dies and doesn't have to throw the whole mod in the trash.
You're suggestion just strikes me as too nanny in attitude. Don't allow him the option until he's satisfied your criteria for ownership first. Even knowing that it's going to cost him more money in the long run.
I go the other way. Get the device that will do virtually anything he wants and is the cheapest to own long term. Give him the options and let him make the choice on how he wants to use it. If he never uses the extra power then he still has a mod that has a replacable battery and can be easily repaired at home. The ONLY downside is that it's more up-front cost but that is counterbalanced by the fact that it will not have to be replaced.
As for dipping your feet first, the DNA can vape as low as 7 watts. The MVP only goes 1 watt lower, and I don't know ANYONE who actually vapes at just 6 watts, do you?
I don't know where you get the idea that the DNA is "jumping in the pool with all your clothes on and your wallet and cell phone in your pocket". Are you scared of it or something? Last time I checked "dipping your feet in" at 7-8 watts is the same no matter which VW mod you use to get there. A mod is nothing more than a battery pack with some adjustments. The DNA just allows a wider range of adjustments. Other than that, it's identical in function to the MVP.
So, it's not a matter of dipping your feet in as you suggest, it's a matter of where you dip your feet in. Do you want to dip your feet in the kiddie pool and maybe wade around a bit, or dip your feet into the grownups pool with the option of diving in if you like it.
The MVP is disposable. It's $40+ for something you know for a fact you're going to throw away.
I just have a real problem with that when you can get a device that has replacable parts for less than the cost of a second MVP. The fact that it can do more is just a bonus. If he never goes to 30 watts, that's fine, but he still has a mod that he can replace the battery in when it dies and doesn't have to throw the whole mod in the trash.
You're suggestion just strikes me as too nanny in attitude. Don't allow him the option until he's satisfied your criteria for ownership first. Even knowing that it's going to cost him more money in the long run.
I go the other way. Get the device that will do virtually anything he wants and is the cheapest to own long term. Give him the options and let him make the choice on how he wants to use it. If he never uses the extra power then he still has a mod that has a replacable battery and can be easily repaired at home. The ONLY downside is that it's more up-front cost but that is counterbalanced by the fact that it will not have to be replaced.
As for dipping your feet first, the DNA can vape as low as 7 watts. The MVP only goes 1 watt lower, and I don't know ANYONE who actually vapes at just 6 watts, do you?
I don't know where you get the idea that the DNA is "jumping in the pool with all your clothes on and your wallet and cell phone in your pocket". Are you scared of it or something? Last time I checked "dipping your feet in" at 7-8 watts is the same no matter which VW mod you use to get there. A mod is nothing more than a battery pack with some adjustments. The DNA just allows a wider range of adjustments. Other than that, it's identical in function to the MVP.
So, it's not a matter of dipping your feet in as you suggest, it's a matter of where you dip your feet in. Do you want to dip your feet in the kiddie pool and maybe wade around a bit, or dip your feet into the grownups pool with the option of diving in if you like it.
I agree, the MVP is disposable and by comparison to some better devices....cheap and remotely effective. However, I do own one for a back up to a back up. I am not "allowing" or "not allowing" anything; just making what I feel is a reasonable suggestion to a new user. If I was really going to suggest a product the OP could buy and never have to worry about; it would have been a Provari, not a knock off DNA.
I am actually currently vaping at 6watts actually. A Taifun dripper, dual coil.
I am not knocking or attacking you; you are obviously very passionate about either owning a clone or not owning a MVP. It is great that you can replace the clone parts but again, that requires some knowledge. I can't personally replace these parts and I consider myself a vet. You seem to be one too. Being vets, you and I possess some knowledge and experience the OP doesn't have and I really just wanted to point stuff out to someone who may or may not know better. When I first started, people had the same type of answers you are now giving.
I am quite happy with the road I chose. Although I did waste money on things, I gained knowledge on a wide variety of products and it was worth the money I spent to get to where I am now. The thing I think we commonly forget is that some of these products can be dangerous if we don't know what we are doing and some things need to be learned to use them. Pressing someone into an advanced product without taking time to explain all of the variables can be irresponsible.
As stated, your suggestion is valid but really it should be an MVP for $40 or you can:
Buy a clone DNA with an explanation that it is likely inferior to a real one. It will cost you $70 for the mod, $10 for batteries, along with the right ones to get and why, $15 for a decent charger and which one that is and that you may have to pay for replacement parts and why.....along with, read and completely understand battery safety and that there are other devices that are of better quality. The OP may not know any of that.
I am actually currently vaping at 6watts actually. A Taifun dripper, dual coil.
I am not knocking or attacking you; you are obviously very passionate about either owning a clone or not owning a MVP. It is great that you can replace the clone parts but again, that requires some knowledge. I can't personally replace these parts and I consider myself a vet. You seem to be one too. Being vets, you and I possess some knowledge and experience the OP doesn't have and I really just wanted to point stuff out to someone who may or may not know better. When I first started, people had the same type of answers you are now giving.
I am quite happy with the road I chose. Although I did waste money on things, I gained knowledge on a wide variety of products and it was worth the money I spent to get to where I am now. The thing I think we commonly forget is that some of these products can be dangerous if we don't know what we are doing and some things need to be learned to use them. Pressing someone into an advanced product without taking time to explain all of the variables can be irresponsible.
As stated, your suggestion is valid but really it should be an MVP for $40 or you can:
Buy a clone DNA with an explanation that it is likely inferior to a real one. It will cost you $70 for the mod, $10 for batteries, along with the right ones to get and why, $15 for a decent charger and which one that is and that you may have to pay for replacement parts and why.....along with, read and completely understand battery safety and that there are other devices that are of better quality. The OP may not know any of that.
The newbie I am loves my MVP but after a little over a month with I'm already looking into an upgrade. Mech mods and rebuilding are still so beyond me that I think I will end up with a vv/vw Sid or vamo. Too many options!
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