Upgrading Battery tips for a new comer to ECF

[dbro92]

Whats up everyone!
I got really into ecigs about 6 months ago and I haven't smoked an analog (as I see its called) since. A few months ago I bought a Gravity variable Voltage 1100mah battery to go with my Kanger tanks (pro tank 2 and pro tank 2 mini) from a local smoke shop. I really prefer the VV battery; it hits way better than my old one. Its not a bad battery but the guy at the store sold the wrong charger and I ended up charging it with that a few times. It works alright but it dies pretty fast and I just don't see it lasting too much longer so I am keeping my eye out for what to get next...

I'm not trying to spend a TON of money, but I want a good quality product. I did some looking around yesterday and became pretty interested in some of the Innokin batteries. The SVD and the MVP2 are my favorite. (actually the Provari VV is my favorite but thats a little pricey for an all day, everyday vape.) The MVP seems to have many really great features but I am not sure if I will like the boxier style as opposed to cylinder style of almost any other battery.

What have you guys tried? Is one waaaay better than the other? Or are they pretty much the same so its only a matter of style? Any other brands or models you think I should look into? I would like to hear what you guys think for this ecig amateur thats looking to go pro in the near future! Thank you! -Dan

 

[anumber1]

I know I am eyeballing an Innokin Itaste VV3.0. Looks cool. Kinda pricey for my budget right now but has features like both variable voltage and varible wattage. Its only 510 threaded so my EVOD clearomizers would need a 510 to ego adapter to work. Not a dealbreaker tho.I like the not box but not pen shape also. Less rolling off of tables and desks and such.

So many choices out there.

I am perfectly happy with my current ego batts, like my 1100ma Smok winder and 650ma Kanger VV batts. Inexpensive and effective for my use anyway.

I haven't found the need to go with a fancy MOD (yet, hmmm... Provari, I want).

I'm fine with ego size stuff currently i guess. trying not to end up with $500 worth of bling as the whole point of my current vaping obsession was to quit smoking (that worked! Six weeks no cigs now).

 

[pufZeppelin]

hello dbro92, welcome to ECF

well 1100mah twist is a very respectable battery
you need to ask yourself if you want "replacable batteries" (battery & charger required)
or "self contained" batteries
I choose self contained with ego, spinners, Innokins - VV V3, and MVP

- Innokin iTaste MVP 2.0 - Eciggity
- Vision Spinner 1300mAh battery
- Innokin iTaste VV Express Kit

good luck and keep asking questions...

 

[kadkins11]

I Just moved up from the 1300 winder to the MVP 2.0 and I love it! I did it mainly for the battery life. I wasn't sure about the box shape either but it fits your hand real good! Hope that helped somewhat

 

[pufZeppelin]

I know I am eyeballing an Innokin Itaste VV3.0. Looks cool. Kinda pricey for my budget right now
but has features like both variable voltage and varible wattage.

Its only 510 threaded so my EVOD clearomizers would need a 510 to ego adapter to work. Not a dealbreaker tho.I like the not box but not pen shape also. Less rolling off of tables and desks and such.

So many choices out there.

the VV V3 is ego/510 threaded, 800mah, vv-vw, passthrough, and USB chargeable
there is another version that has the pen cap

 

[Markus765]

I'm having good luck with the Vision Spinner 1300 mAh.

 

[sharkster]

Sounds like you are liking vaping . Over the long run the provari will pay for its self . Yes I have one and love it... But still have 2 ego batteries that use at work. Have over $40 in them .

 

[dbro92]

Thanks for some input everyone!
pufZepplin, out of the 3 you linked me to the itaste MVP v2 is my favorite (and really well priced on the site). I like the VV but i feel like 800maH just won't cut it for me. I also just came across the SMOKtech ZMAX mini (in metallic blue this thing is gorgeous).
I'm starting to think that maybe something cheaper (MVPv2) would work well for me now, and then get another like the pro-vari once I just getting into sub-ohming (I really know pretty much nothing about this other than after building it correctly, you can get MASSIVE vapor clouds.) Which is in-the-end, probably what i'm striving for....

 

[Baditude]

Research what you are interested in. Look for features that you might need now and into the near future. YouTube is a great way to research. Consider battery time, battery type and charge requirements (built-in non-replaceable battery or replaceable batteries which require a separate charger), variable voltage/wattage, LED display, number of bottons to adjust the vape, durability, construction quality, history of problems with particular models.

A Spinner or Twist variable voltage Ego battery setup is a good beginner setup. Top these with a clearomizer or cartotank.

An Innokin iTaste V3 or iTaste MVP is also a good alternative and step up from an Ego battery.

All of the above are non-replaceable batteries. Once the battery dies, the whole device is a throwaway.

An APV or mod is a device which uses replaceable rechargeable batteries (requires a charger box to recharge these batteries). When those batteries die, only the batteries need be replaced...the mod lives on with new batteries.

Advancing Up the Vaping Ladder, From cigalikes to Ego's to Mods

The Provari is more expensive than the entry level mods. Buying and owning one is an investment for the long term vaper. All the mods like a Vamo, MVP, V3, SVD, VTR, 134, Lava Tube, ZMax, SID, etc are made in China and can not be repaired. A Provari can be repaired for life. You can own one of the other mods and be perfectly happy, but do the research and see how long those mods typically last. When it breaks, buy another. And buy another when that one breaks. Or buy a Provari... Many Provari owners wish they had purchased one from the start after wasting so much money on the cheaper mods.

Why Provari?

You can't do sub-ohms with a Provari or any other regulated (variable voltage) mod. You will need a mechanical mod with special 30 amp high drain batteries.

 

[edyle]

Whats up everyone!
I got really into ecigs about 6 months ago and I haven't smoked an analog (as I see its called) since. A few months ago I bought a Gravity variable Voltage 1100mah battery to go with my Kanger tanks (pro tank 2 and pro tank 2 mini) from a local smoke shop. I really prefer the VV battery; it hits way better than my old one. Its not a bad battery but the guy at the store sold the wrong charger and I ended up charging it with that a few times. It works alright but it dies pretty fast and I just don't see it lasting too much longer so I am keeping my eye out for what to get next...

I'm not trying to spend a TON of money, but I want a good quality product. I did some looking around yesterday and became pretty interested in some of the Innokin batteries. The SVD and the MVP2 are my favorite. (actually the Provari VV is my favorite but thats a little pricey for an all day, everyday vape.) The MVP seems to have many really great features but I am not sure if I will like the boxier style as opposed to cylinder style of almost any other battery.

What have you guys tried? Is one waaaay better than the other? Or are they pretty much the same so its only a matter of style? Any other brands or models you think I should look into? I would like to hear what you guys think for this ecig amateur thats looking to go pro in the near future! Thank you! -Dan

The MVP2 is still THE top of the line hands down bestest battery out there for the AND for the cost.

If you are looking for a battery, and its within your budget go for it; you won't not like it.

It is a passthrough battery - you can vape while it is charging.
It is a BIG battery: 2600 mAh.
It has VW: most coils vape comfortably at 5 watts so you can just set 5 watts for the average tank and it should work.

Now, the SVD, which is comparative cost as the MVP, is NOT a battery; the SVD is a container for standard rechargeable batteries. (As is the Provari, Vamo, Zmax, Evic, VTR, 134); you buy 18650 rechargeable batteries for them (18mm diameter by 65mm length); most require a separate charger; (the evic features on board charging; the provari now has a module you can insert instead of battery and vape direct off the wall without battery)

there also a new box out called e-vct or e-ltc or something that tries to be like an MVP but takes replaceable batteries (and does on board charging)

 

[dbro92]

Thank you!! That is some useful advice. I wasn't really sure about whether you could change some batteries or not. The fact that Provari's are made in the US is one of my biggest reasons for wanting it. I am thinking a replaceable battery is the way to go. When one dies I can easily switch it out with another without having to wait 4 or 5 hours for a non-replacable one to charge. I'm mostly worried about getting through a 3 or 4 day festival, but having 2 or 3 extra batteries seems like a much more efficient way of going about it than having extra full set up.

 

[edyle]

I know I am eyeballing an Innokin Itaste VV3.0. Looks cool. Kinda pricey for my budget right now but has features like both variable voltage and varible wattage. Its only 510 threaded so my EVOD clearomizers would need a 510 to ego adapter to work. Not a dealbreaker tho.I like the not box but not pen shape also. Less rolling off of tables and desks and such.

So many choices out there.

I am perfectly happy with my current ego batts, like my 1100ma Smok winder and 650ma Kanger VV batts. Inexpensive and effective for my use anyway.

I haven't found the need to go with a fancy MOD (yet, hmmm... Provari, I want).

I'm fine with ego size stuff currently i guess. trying not to end up with $500 worth of bling as the whole point of my current vaping obsession was to quit smoking (that worked! Six weeks no cigs now).

That can't be right? All the Innokin Itaste batteries and battery boxes use the standard 510+eGo interface.

 

[yzer]

If you are looking at Zmax then go for a Sigelei Zmax. They are much better built than the Smok Zmax. The Sigelei Zmax Mini and the Sigelei Zmax Telescopic V3 or V5 are the same size (100mm long) when using the same 18350 battery. A "mini" tube mod of all makes uses 18350. The Sigelei Zmax Telescopics use all 18xx0 battery sizes from 18350 to 18650.

The form factor makes a difference. Do you want a tube mod or a box mod? One is not better than the other but how you use and carry a mod will influence your choice.

Do you want replaceable cylindrical batteries or non-replaceable? All Li-ion batteries have a limited lifespan.

Neither the Zmax or the Provari will work for sub-ohm vaping due to amp limits of the electronics.

Some recommendations:

Sigelei Zmax Telescopic V3

Nitecore Intellicharger i-4

Efest Batteries

 

[edyle]

Thank you!! That is some useful advice. I wasn't really sure about whether you could change some batteries or not. The fact that Provari's are made in the US is one of my biggest reasons for wanting it. I am thinking a replaceable battery is the way to go. When one dies I can easily switch it out with another without having to wait 4 or 5 hours for a non-replacable one to charge. I'm mostly worried about getting through a 3 or 4 day festival, but having 2 or 3 extra batteries seems like a much more efficient way of going about it than having extra full set up.

There's supposed to be a mini provari too; might be better on the budget.

 

[dbro92]

Oh wow! The Zmax Telescopic V3 does look like a great option. I think from this thread I have learned that I'm more interested in a replaceable battery, tube-mod. Also, it would be nice to be able to use my current tanks...my Protank mini doesn't have 510 threads... But the zmax telescopic supports both, unlike the MVP.
like I said, I really know nothing about sub ohm-ing, so I'll just focus on this and keep that as a topic of discussion for another thread.

 

[edyle]

Oh wow! The Zmax Telescopic V3 does look like a great option. I think from this thread I have learned that I'm more interested in a replaceable battery, tube-mod. Also, it would be nice to be able to use my current tanks...my Protank mini doesn't have 510 threads... But the zmax telescopic supports both, unlike the MVP.
like I said, I really know nothing about sub ohm-ing, so I'll just focus on this and keep that as a topic of discussion for another thread.

Don't be too worried about sub ohm; that was more important before VV and VW developed; a couple years ago it was easier to reduce ohms than to increase voltage; now you can just increase voltage.

 

[dbro92]

They also have a SVD on the Desertvapes website for only $52. thats a pretty good deal I think. I can use the extra money to get some good batteries and a charger

 

[yzer]

Either the Sigelei Zmax V3 or V5 are good choices. The V5 adds some features: cell phone charger and a puff counter with a different OLED display but they are in short supply right now. The Sigeleis are built like tanks. I own two (one is a back-up) and I've been using the first one every day for ten months now.

 

[yzer]

This a great place to learn more about the VV/VW mods.

Variable Voltage APV Discussion

 

[Baditude]

There's supposed to be a mini provari too; might be better on the budget.

The standard size ProVari and the Mini Provari cost the same. Same electronics and features, just a different size mods (and batteries).