Using Nic to eventually Reduce to Non-Nic ?

[Alain59]

I have not seen this , so mods if im making a duplicate post , feel free to delete
Okay How many of you are on 24mg Nic higher or Lower and are trying to decrease the nic to eventually go down to non-nic ? or have already attained this and if so , explain how you attained this , and over what period span . As i think that in lots of cases this is or may be the goal to attain for many of us.
Thanks

 

[Icarium]

i like your question and hope to see many replies from long time vapers cos my enquiring mind wants to know too

i needed throat hit when i first started in early april and only got it with 24mg marlbro
now i'm pretty happy cutting 24mg to about 18mg with 50/50 pg/vg, just eyeballing it in the bottle so far but i got syringes now
it drops the throat hit to a still acceptable level but makes it smoother and produces more vapor and still has good flavor
i'm still doing from 6 to 12 cigs in a day, from 30, so my next step is to get off tobacco completely and then concentrate on dropping the nic more

 

[Alain59]

i like your question and hope to see many replies from long time vapers cos my enquiring mind wants to know too

i needed throat hit when i first started in early april and only got it with 24mg marlbro
now i'm pretty happy cutting 24mg to about 18mg with 50/50 pg/vg, just eyeballing it in the bottle so far but i got syringes now
it drops the throat hit to a still acceptable level but makes it smoother and produces more vapor and still has good flavor
i'm still doing from 6 to 12 cigs in a day, from 30, so my next step is to get off tobacco completely and then concentrate on dropping the nic more

Thanks Icarium for your post, i too hope to see many more answers !

 

[magnolia]

I spent my first month vaping on 24mg Nic and now I'm trying to decrease the nic to eventually go down to non-nic.
I felt really tired and low energy the whole first month of quitting analogs, and I wanted to give my body the time it needs to adjust before I cut my nicotine levels.

I ordered some more of my favorite juice last weekend.
I really love the RY4 and MB, but this time I ordered the 11mg. I've been vaping it for 2 days and it's going well so far.
My energy levels are back up and I'm not missing the nicotine nearly as much as I thought that I might when I cut down.
I still have some of the 24mg nic, but my husbands using it, he's trying to cut down too, but he started after I did. If there's any left after he decides to take a step down on the nic, we'll cut the nic in half on it with some vg or pg.

I'm going to try this for a week or two, it's going so well so far that I'm thinking of going ahead and stepping down to no nic at that point.
I've ordered some Loranns Flavor and other supplies, and I'm going to try to mix my own no nic juice.
I also have a bottle of nonflavored nic juice to use just a little if I need to at that point to make it 6 to 8mg nic if needed.
I've been reading alot in the DIY section trying to learn enough how to do it.


After that, I'm wanting to just vape no-nic, but my hubby wants to quit altogether, that's the only difference between what we're trying to achieve. I enjoy vaping more than I did smoking analogs.
I smoke them less, and enjoy when I do. I love the flavors. And the act of smoking has always been relaxing for me...
I just want it to be more of a choice/desire because I want to, than my addiction/need to what is in them.

 

[Bryn]

I honestly don't think I will ever vape non-nicotine e-liquid because of researchers' reports that nicotine helps to prevent dementia/Alzheimer’s and/or help to gain memory. Having Mom with dementia, it's very hard to see. Pure hell even.

on edit: Mom is non-smoker

 

[Alain59]

I spent my first month vaping on 24mg Nic and now I'm trying to decrease the nic to eventually go down to non-nic.
I felt really tired and low energy the whole first month of quitting analogs, and I wanted to give my body the time it needs to adjust before I cut my nicotine levels.

I ordered some more of my favorite juice last weekend.
I really love the RY4 and MB, but this time I ordered the 11mg. I've been vaping it for 2 days and it's going well so far.
My energy levels are back up and I'm not missing the nicotine nearly as much as I thought that I might when I cut down.
I still have some of the 24mg nic, but my husbands using it, he's trying to cut down too, but he started after I did. If there's any left after he decides to take a step down on the nic, we'll cut the nic in half on it with some vg or pg.

I'm going to try this for a week or two, it's going so well so far that I'm thinking of going ahead and stepping down to no nic at that point.
I've ordered some Loranns Flavor and other supplies, and I'm going to try to mix my own no nic juice.
I also have a bottle of nonflavored nic juice to use just a little if I need to at that point to make it 6 to 8mg nic if needed.
I've been reading alot in the DIY section trying to learn enough how to do it.


After that, I'm wanting to just vape no-nic, but my hubby wants to quit altogether, that's the only difference between what we're trying to achieve. I enjoy vaping more than I did smoking analogs.
I smoke them less, and enjoy when I do. I love the flavors. And the act of smoking has always been relaxing for me...
I just want it to be more of a choice/desire because I want to, than my addiction/need to what is in them.

Thanks for sharing that interesting post Magnolia i Hope you will keep us posted on your progress and that of your Hubby

 

[peter-nf]

Hi

My aim is to gradually reduce to 0 nicotine. Yesterday suppertime (24 hours ago) i used up the last of my 18mg juice which i'd been using for all my 2 months of vaping. I'm now using 11mg juice and can't say i've noticed or felt any difference. I guess there really isn't any way of knowing for sure the nicotine content of the juice and just have to trust what the bottle says it is. I was concerned i might have some withdrawal symptoms and no stronger juice to fall back on but so far so good. The vapor and throat hit don't change so it sure is easier than switching from regular to light or extra light cigarettes.

 

[gep]

Keep in mind you might hit a "plateau" where you have to adjust to the lower strength for longer than you might want to. You might even go up again for a short period of time. The way I look at it is as long as I'm moving in the right direction overall, then everything is good.

 

[Misty]

Alain
When I started vaping (almost 10 months now!) I chose 11mg thinking it kinda of matched my real cigs - ultra lights..but found quickly I had to bump it up to 18mg to keep off analogs!..I even needed 24 mg parts of the day !..
But then I got insomnia and the ban was looming in the horizon so the plan became every 3-4 weeks I would lower 4-5mg surreptiously..easy to do with DIY (mix and pretend I didn't add that extra volume of VG!) and now am down to about 5 mg nic!

I'm not sure I will try to go down to 0 nic though..as it kinda seems 0 nic is kinda pointless psychologically & physically..but you never know!

 

[smokum]

Kudos to anyone who has elliminated any form of addiction, legal or otherwise !!

For myself, I'm still at the stages of analog & vaping, and the level of intake bounces around. I have no intention of quiting at all, I enjoy smoking, but want to reduce and eventually quit the analog intake and its hacking effects once I find the perfect vapour production, device, and nic hit.

VapeOn,
Greg

 

[magnolia]

I honestly don't think I will ever vape non-nicotine e-liquid because of researchers' reports that nicotine helps to prevent dementia/Alzheimer’s and/or help to gain memory. Having Mom with dementia, it's very hard to see. Pure hell even.

on edit: Mom is non-smoker

I had forgotten about reading about that, and that 's interesting point you've made...
I may consider just moving down to a lower nic level and sometimes vape with no nic...
Since I'm going to vape anyway..

 

[lordmage]

i was similar to misty but found that i needed nic content in the high 30's to not want a analog. what i did was to still treat my e-cig like an analog only vaped where socially allowed to do so with analogs and and even messured my time to no more then an analog and just as often and no faster. what i did was to increase the length of time in between vapes till i no longer needed it. and even reduced the nic to almost 18mg for the times i find my self wanting an analog. i am proud to say that from dec to now is what it took me to reduced and ultmatilly quit analogs and vaping but i still have the rare offered analog but can now safely say i have not purchased an analog or juice in over 2 months.

 

[Icarium]

well done lordmage
that is probably everyone's goal
i know its mine
i wish you success in keeping it that way

over the 35 years that i've smoked, i've quit 3 times
once for 1.5 years, next 3 years and last time lasted 3 months
its not only hard to quit but to stay free for the rest of your life is tougher

 

[lordmage]

yes that is true thats why i like the biggest support group out there ECF

 

[Shaik Corso]

LordMage, you actually quit altogether? I went off analogs about 3 days after getting my 901, but I find I vape this thing steady (way more than I smoked). I am steadily reducing my nicotine content with it though, does the desire to smoke just leave you?

PS> I can now smell a burning analog from approximately 1500 miles away.... weird...

 

[Cancer]

and never went back. I vape 36mg at bars and stuff like funerals and really stressful situations. I use 24mg daily and see no reason to stop, plus Puresmoker.com is getting juice again soon MUAHHHHHHH MUAHHHHH

 

[Nuck]

As many of the older members know, I was nic free for 8 years before I started vaping (previously a 25 year heavy smoker). After 6 months of moderate (to at times heavy) vaping I just recently had the flu and didn't vape for almost 6 days. For the first few days I was too sick so it didn't really count as a test. What surprised me was there was absolutely no signs of addiction for the next 4 days. I tested 2 or 3 months back for a few days and there was no addiction at that point either.

Bottom line, with a highly addictive personality, vaping 6 months steady with an average of 12-18mg nic juice there is not even a hint of addiction. I'm extremely happy my new found pleasure doesn't come with a heavy addiction price tag

Of the 5 adults that vape in this household, none have reported any signs of addiction. I would love to see some real studies done on the addictive properties of nicotine via vaping.

 

[Shaik Corso]

I've been wondering the same thing about this. People go through NRT and yet they still end up smoking analogs while they are on it (or after). I have never heard of someone slapping a patch on and never smoking again, my friends that have been on Chantix sneaked smokes while they were on it and then went full time again when the drugs were done.

Yet, people do it all the time with Vaping. Get a vapourizer, stop smoking.. Done and Done. I don't want the analogs they way I used to, and if I do want one, I heave on this thing a bit and thats that. In fact, I think about analogs less and less. I can definitely go longer without Vaping without tweaking out than I could on analogs, and I am finding that is more the case every day.

So what is it about vaping that makes it so easy to quit off the smokes/smoking altogether? It can't just be the hand to mouth thing, or those inhalers would do the job for us. Nuck is 100% right, studies need to be done, I'd love to see the results.

 

[Surf Monkey]

Just getting off of traditional cigarettes is a major step. The combustion byproducts, chemical additives and dozens of naturally occurring alkaloids found in traditional cigarettes, many of which are habit forming, represent a major health risk that's eliminated by e-cigarettes. I've smoked for nearly 30 years and I've found that I'm not just addicted to nicotine, I'm addicted to Camels and whatever it is that RJR puts in them.

Thanks to 24mg fluid, I haven't smoked a traditional cigarette for several weeks now. E-cigarettes provide me with just enough of a nicotine high and just enough of the psychological satisfaction of continuing to "smoke" that kicking all those other chemicals has been a cake walk. Furthermore, my experience and the few scientific studies we've seen support the idea that the amount of nicotine you get from a drag on an e-cigarette is only about 10% of what you get from a drag on a traditional cigarette. Since I don't vape much more than I smoked, I'm already taking in only a fraction of the nicotine I was using before.

So, it seems to me that moving from this level of addiction down to little or no nicotine use whatsoever should be relatively simple. The hardest part was the first week of vaping. It's gotten increasingly easy to avoid cravings for analogues since then. I've quit for months before so I know the withdrawal symptoms well. I've gone through some of them this time but it's been far easier than what I experienced going cold turkey, using the patch and chewing nicotine gum.

 

[Shaik Corso]

Just getting off of traditional cigarettes is a major step. The combustion byproducts, chemical additives and dozens of naturally occurring alkaloids found in traditional cigarettes, many of which are habit forming, represent a major health risk that's eliminated by e-cigarettes. I've smoked for nearly 30 years and I've found that I'm not just addicted to nicotine, I'm addicted to Camels and whatever it is that RJR puts in them.

Thanks to 24mg fluid, I haven't smoked a traditional cigarette for several weeks now. E-cigarettes provide me with just enough of a nicotine high and just enough of the psychological satisfaction of continuing to "smoke" that kicking all those other chemicals has been a cake walk. Furthermore, my experience and the few scientific studies we've seen support the idea that the amount of nicotine you get from a drag on an e-cigarette is only about 10% of what you get from a drag on a traditional cigarette. Since I don't vape much more than I smoked, I'm already taking in only a fraction of the nicotine I was using before.

So, it seems to me that moving from this level of addiction down to little or no nicotine use whatsoever should be relatively simple. The hardest part was the first week of vaping. It's gotten increasingly easy to avoid cravings for analogues since then. I've quit for months before so I know the withdrawal symptoms well. I've gone through some of them this time but it's been far easier than what I experienced going cold turkey, using the patch and chewing nicotine gum.

I agree with most all that. I have had some thoughts too that there is some chemical besides Nicotine that kept us all smoking analogs, though I had no idea that there actually were other addictive compounds in them till your post..