Vacuum pump for various Boston Round bottles

[Kyle&Ann]

Greetings from Razorback Country!

Ann and I have been having great results with DIY and with vaping in general. We are so much better off health-wise than we were when we were stuck on the stinkies.

I have been stocking up on 100mg nicotine and have been reading up on long term storage. I see that oxygen is one of our biggest enemies in the degradation of liquid nicotine. This does make sense to me.

Here is my question...

If O2 is something we need to deal with, how can one vacuum seal all the air out of an amber boston round bottle? I have 1 oz, 2 oz, 4 oz and 8 oz bottles already. Is there a pump that will do the trick for the various sizes? We do own a FoodSaver 2200 unit and this will vacuum seal mason jars. Could this be an optimal alternative? I realize amber is the best color to filter out UV and I could probably figure out an option to deal with the transparent mason jars.

Anyway...anyone know of a vaccum pump that will work on boston rounds? We, as always, appreciate all the help and information from this awesome community!

Kyle&Ann

 

[Kyle&Ann]

I have been looking at wine bottle vacuum pumps...but how do you account for different size bottle openings?

 

[coffayandtea]

oxidation from a purely chemical standpoint isnt that big a deal. Honestly you might be overthinking this because losing chemical potency from just oxidation is pretty hard to achieve even intentionally for nicotine.

From a taste standpoint, oxidation is actually a good thing most of the time but can also be bad. If I were you, I would be more concerned with how any extra additives might react (should you choose to use them) like salt/sugar/honey etc....since those don't get vaporized easily enough, gunk up your coils and then the heating from coils might cause the gunk to release more chemicals! but thats just my two cents....

Now to actually be helpful,the mason jar idea sounds pretty rock solid as an idea and why not just store the mason jars in the fridge? The inside of a fridge would serve all your purposes as well as have the added bonus of being cold! The cold means that your juices would be interacting less on a molecular level so no oxidation there! and since ur using mason jars, the glass is super unreactive too! FYI not everyone knows this but most of the plastics you use arent suited for long term storage since the plastic walls actually allow oxygen in.

Ofc you should know that when I say long term, I mean like years. Even up to your first year, your nicotine should be fine, some nicotine liquids turn pink after a while whilst others have a strong odour, even when this happens, if the nicotine was okay before, it should be okay now because some suppliers actually try masking the scent of their high quality nic and the pinkness comes from oxidation (TA-DAA!) but that doesnt mean its really lost any chemical potency.....its just nicotine in a slightly different form

 

[coffayandtea]

One thing I'd like to add, vinegar, look into that. For one its basically one of the few things that us DIY-ers have been using that is actually safe since all it does is neutralize the nic a little( nic is after all a base). However, I for one think the trade-off is pretty good, I personally add 2 drops per every 10ml and it helps smooth things over sooo much!

Btw I use white vinegar and my nic lvl is at 8mg, havent needed to boost it despite me technically getting less nicotine....you know if you wanna count it down to the mol.

 

[Kyle&Ann]

oxidation from a purely chemical standpoint isnt that big a deal. Honestly you might be overthinking this because losing chemical potency from just oxidation is pretty hard to achieve even intentionally for nicotine.

From a taste standpoint, oxidation is actually a good thing most of the time but can also be bad. If I were you, I would be more concerned with how any extra additives might react (should you choose to use them) like salt/sugar/honey etc....since those don't get vaporized easily enough, gunk up your coils and then the heating from coils might cause the gunk to release more chemicals! but thats just my two cents....

We are just storing the 100mg nicotine solution. No additives other that the PG the nicotine is suspended in.

Thanks so much for your relpy and information. I think I will leave the 8 oz bottles which are filled with solution and then placed inside a vacuum sealed bag in the freezer alone. I may transfer one bottle at a time into an appropriate sized mason jar when needed and then vacuum seal the jar before placing it back into the freezer for storage. Sound plausible?

Again thanks for that info!

Kyle&Ann

 

[coffayandtea]

OWH my bad, I thought you were mass producing your juice and stocking up for when the zombies come, like im doing.....yeah that sounds good, and I love sharing info about vaping/chemistry in general. Also yes, seems like a rock solid plan,much more professional than most hehe.

Btw may I ask, how much nic do you have exactly? LOL just curious. I usually order them in these 100ml stainless steel container with a plastic seal. They look adorable and are tough cookies too (dropped my nic a few times (not my proudest moment))

 

[Kyle&Ann]

OWH my bad, I thought you were mass producing your juice and stocking up for when the zombies come, like im doing.....yeah that sounds good, and I love sharing info about vaping/chemistry in general. Also yes, seems like a rock solid plan,much more professional than most hehe.

Btw may I ask, how much nic do you have exactly? LOL just curious. I usually order them in these 100ml stainless steel container with a plastic seal. They look adorable and are tough cookies too (dropped my nic a few times (not my proudest moment))

LOL...we figure that we can fend off the zombies for some time...we have 3.5 liters in the freezer as I type. Is that over kill?

Kyle&Ann