vamo question for the pros...

[time2quit]

Hello all.
I am a newbie this time around. 2 years ago, I was a religious vapor, and stayed off analogs for a year. For whatever reason, I relapsed somewhere along the way. Anyway, a lot has changed in the vaping world since I was last on the scene. I just ordered a Vamo, and im real excited about it. However, at this point im a little "intimidated" as well. The whole vv and vw thing is so new to me, imnot sure wht to make of it. In layman's terms, can somebody explain to me why or why not, I may need a higher voltage or wattage? Under what circumstances I would want to change them? I understand it all comes down to your personal "sweet spot" but this whole ohm differential, and such, really confuses the .... out of me!

Thanks to any and all that reply!

 

[cyclotron]

time2quit,

You picked a device that has a great value for the dollar. I would suggest that you use Variable Wattage mode as you'll not have to do the math to determine what voltage to set. Start out about 6 watts and then bump it up from there.

I'm guessing because you haven't said what you would be using on the VAMO for a head.

Later, if you get more experience you can try the variable voltage mode if you like. The VV mode will take a bit more reading and education to take advantage of.

Let us know more about what your whole setup will be like and I'm sure we can offer more.

 

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[crxess]

VV allows you to visually set the voltage where ever you want. VW will set Voltage for you to maintain the same Wattage regardless of what ohm device you attach. RMS VW setting will give you the most consistent output.

For a good, consistent experience set the Vamo to VW and mode 2(rms) then adjust up/down according to how your juice taste. Some fruits/etc. work best at lower power while many Tobacco flavors are better at higher power. Again, it's all subjective.

 

[time2quit]

Thanks for the reply! At this point im going to be using a t3 clearomizer setup. From what I understand, I will need a 510 adaptor. I have also heard good things about the vivi nova on this device. As far as what ohm heads to use for either set-up, im still unsure...confused as to which would be best.

 

[crxess]

You will need the 150/ego adapter for any Kanger T2,T3,MT3 or T3 mini. Vivi will work just fine.
anything 1.8-3.0 should be good to go. I prefer 2.2-2.5ohm on mine for performance and battery life.

 

[time2quit]

You will need the 150/ego adapter for any Kanger T2,T3,MT3 or T3 mini. Vivi will work just fine.
anything 1.8-3.0 should be good to go. I prefer 2.2-2.5ohm on mine for performance and battery life.

thanks a million crxess!

 

[kiwivap]

time2quit,

You picked a device that has a great value for the dollar. I would suggest that you use Variable Wattage mode as you'll not have to do the math to determine what voltage to set. Start out about 6 watts and then bump it up from there.

I'm guessing because you haven't said what you would be using on the VAMO for a head.

Later, if you get more experience you can try the variable voltage mode if you like. The VV mode will take a bit more reading and education to take advantage of.

Let us know more about what your whole setup will be like and I'm sure we can offer more.

Everything here, and I'd just say maybe start lower than 6 watts with a T3 and click up to where you like it. The great thing about using the variable wattage is that the Vamo will read the ohms on the attachment - in this case the T3, and adjust the voltage automatically to suit the watts you set. All you have to is set the watts.

 

[JacobTX]

I just switched my vamo to VW for the first time after reading this thread. After using twists and spinners, I went straight to VV.
Gonna VW a shot and see how it goes. Using a 1.8ohm vivi nova head at the moment.

 

[kiwivap]

I just switched my vamo to VW for the first time after reading this thread. After using twists and spinners, I went straight to VV.
Gonna VW a shot and see how it goes. Using a 1.8ohm vivi nova head at the moment.

1.8 ohm will be ok. I prefer the 2.4 and 2.8 ohm heads myself with the Vamo.

 

[CreamSteam]

I really can't understand the point of using VV on Vamo especially since it goes all the way up to 15 watts. 0.5 wattage adjustment should be accurate enough.

 

[TBinAZ]

Here is a great chart that pretty much spells out what wattage setting, at a specific ohm reading on the atomizer, will result in an approximate voltage. The variable wattage setting is a treat because you can screw on different ohm atomizers and the wattage calculation will adjust the voltage on the fly. Kind of a "no brainer" approach to vaping as it will always keep the constant power setting to where you like it no matter what ohm device you screw onto it. The "average voltage settings" on some devices as opposed to "Root, Mean, Square (RMS)" is the difference between average voltage set being fed to atty, and the pulse width modulation being fed by numerous devices out now. The RMS mode is able to average out the pulse width waves better than "Average" voltage mode, which is more accurate. Of course, none of this applies to manual voltage devices. Hope this helps.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AlZnGjZRjO_UdGo3VVlnVHY0VExZLVd5aDkwUEJEZXc#gid=1

Here is another "condensed" explanation for RMS

http://vapebrain.com/rms.html

 

[time2quit]

I really can't understand the point of using VV on Vamo especially since it goes all the way up to 15 watts. 0.5 wattage adjustment should be accurate enough.

So in a nutshell cream, what makes the difference between the voltage and the wattage? I believe this is the aspect that probably has me most confused.

 

[GunnyGlow]

Wattage is the best description of "power".

Kind of like... 100 duck sized horses OR 1 horse sized duck. Not that this really makes sense.... But... Kind of

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[time2quit]

Wattage is the best description of "power".

Kind of like... 100 duck sized horses OR 1 horse sized duck. Not that this really makes sense.... But... Kind of

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hmmm...im tryin to make sense out of it gunny. Lol but if I said I did I would be lying. I appreciate the response however!

 

[GunnyGlow]

Constant wattage is a good method b/c it takes a lot less effort to end up at a good Vape 'setting'. If you adjust your voltage to get a good Vape on a 2.8 ohm atty and then throw on a 1.8 ohm atty it will probably be way to much power (watts) unless you lower your voltage(to get back to the same wattage you found to be good while using the 2.8 ohm atty).

I = V/R
and then...
Watts = amps x volts.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watt

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohm's_law

www.ohmslawcalculator.com/ohms_law_calculator.php

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[GunnyGlow]

It will click eventually. I fly electric r/c stuff and had to learn all about it to keep from frying all sorts of electronics, batteries, etc.
I'm still learning so be sure to verify.

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[CreamSteam]

To put it simply, when you have different resistance atomizers they all need different voltage setting to output the same amount of power/vapor. However when you are using wattage setting you can change the atomizers without having to change the voltage, meaning that the power remains constant but as the resistance of the atomizer changes the voltage needs to change too to achieve the same level of output. When you have wattage set, it will change the voltage accordingly based on the resistance of your atomizer. I've heard this doesn't work as straight forward anymore when going to low levels of resistance below 1 ohms but if you arent wrapping your own coils as I have to assume you are not, then this really has no relative meaning for you. Besides I believe the lowest ohm Vamo takes is 1.5

Hopes this clears it out for you.

 

[guppy]

I really don't think it's a PV problem since ohms is your problem... Sounds more like a carto/atty problem. If you vape at higher voltage/wattage then get higher ohms cartos/attys and vise versa.

 

[edking66]

Small electricity primer here, I will try to keep it simple

Voltage or volts is the potential to do work, kind of like pressure in a plumbing system. Current or amps is the amount of electricity flowing through the circuit, like the amount of water flowing (gallons per time unit) . Resistance or ohms is the restriction of amount of electricity, the more resistance, the more voltage it takes to push the same current through. Think of it like 2 different size pipes, it would take more pressure to pump the same amount of water through a smaller pipe in a fixed time than in a larger pipe.

Wattage or watts is the amount of work being done. In the coil of an atomizer this equates to the amount of heat the coil produces, so a higher resistance coil will require more voltage to produce the same heat than a lower resistance coil. Variable wattage devices read the resistance of the coil, and apply the right amount of voltage to get the heat (or wattage) you want. This makes it easier to keep the same approximate vape when using different resistance atomizers.

I have left out some of the more technical aspects for the sake of simplicity, but this should give you the general idea.