Vaping and ADHD

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Vicshalls

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I was diagnosed late in life at one point I was on my meds and tried to quit smoking. I almost went insane. I did some research on smoking and ADHD and found that a lot of us diagnosised as adults were big smokers or addicts in general. Trying our best to fit in with the norm. I was told by a university study group that I may never stop smoking no matter what. Well I have done so by vaping. Thing is I do feel like I am getting more hyper. That my nervous energy seems to be coming back. I truly hope this too will pass. I don't do well on medication and I don't want to go back to analogs in order to fight another disease. Anyone else out there having this problem?
 

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I was diagnosed late in life at one point I was on my meds and tried to quit smoking. I almost went insane. I did some research on smoking and ADHD and found that a lot of us diagnosised as adults were big smokers or addicts in general. Trying our best to fit in with the norm. I was told by a university study group that I may never stop smoking no matter what. Well I have done so by vaping. Thing is I do feel like I am getting more hyper. That my nervous energy seems to be coming back. I truly hope this too will pass. I don't do well on medication and I don't want to go back to analogs in order to fight another disease. Anyone else out there having this problem?

Hey Vicshalls.

I'm a recovering addict/alcoholic, and have ADHD, and don't take medication for it!

I went through a rough few weeks when I first quit smoking. I was anxious, had strange dreams, and was very hyper. Also very compulsive and spent way too much money. It's now been about 10 weeks since I quit, and those symptoms have abated. Getting through it was just that, getting through it. Time had to pass, and I just had to deal with the ....ty feelings in the meantime. I vaped a LOT, bought a LOT of vape gear, and ate too much.

So no worries! It should get better. It did for me :)
 

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Thank you for that. Glad to know I am not the only one out there is kinda feeling out of control. I do vape like a crazy person. Lol and have spent way more than I should on vape stuff but I do buy for two. Glad I have not done the eating thing. Can't afford to put on any more weight. Lol again thanks. This place is great for support.
 

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Thank you for that. Glad to know I am not the only one out there is kinda feeling out of control. I do vape like a crazy person. Lol and have spent way more than I should on vape stuff but I do buy for two. Glad I have not done the eating thing. Can't afford to put on any more weight. Lol again thanks. This place is great for support.

You're definitely not alone. It'll get better. Remember that you're detoxing from ALL sorts of crap. Cigarettes have thousands of chemicals.

You know, I didn't eat too much at first. It was in the 2nd month of no analogs. I gained about 10 pounds! I've gotten rid of 7 of that in the last week or so. Way easier to work out now that I'm not smoking a pack and a half a day!
 

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These are very intriguing stories... seriously. I've heard and read about the link between the hopelessly addicted and self-medicating smokers and ADHD and other disorders, but never actually heard first hand any stories.
If any of you didn't already join CASAA yet, I cannot urge you strongly enough to do so... this organization is our strongest ally in the battle between FDA/Govt. regulations threatening our right to vape... and its coming faster than many realize.

Become a CASAA Member

Please do so, it's free (Donations strongly encouraged BTW) and takes only minutes...

Telling your individual stories about your struggles with addiction to smoking, any experiences you had with medications and how/why they affected you, and any success you've had with Vaping would be valuable information (ammo) against those who wish to regulate our hobby out of existence...

CASAA: CASAA launches tobacco harm reduction success stories collection

What say you?

I'm not a paid spokesperson, just a concerned fellow vaper trying to rally support...
 
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Will take a look at that. Most people think ADHD is nothing but a myth. I am sure most of us older people had no idea as children that anything was wrong but in those times we were outside from sun up to sun down. All that energy was being used. As an adult you don't get to run around and act crazy all day. Lol vaping is the only thing to date that has gotten me off the other toxins. I can't afford to loose this now.
 

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Will take a look at that. Most people think ADHD is nothing but a myth. I am sure most of us older people had no idea as children that anything was wrong but in those times we were outside from sun up to sun down. All that energy was being used. As an adult you don't get to run around and act crazy all day. Lol vaping is the only thing to date that has gotten me off the other toxins. I can't afford to loose this now.

I hear ya! It may be "Over-Diagnosed" these days, and doing so only downplays the real issue... but I believe it is very real.

I can't seem to get any of the kids outside these days, they spend their off time face first in their iphones. At least I still get to burn off some energy at work, I videotape high school sports for a living.

CASAA is a worthwhile, non-profit, all volunteer organization to get involved with, and they have EVERYONE's interest in mind when it comes to Smoke-Free alternatives... especially the ones that work and are currently under attack, as we speak!

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...op-fda-giving-e-cig-industry-big-tobacco.html

October is turning out to be a pivotal time, action is important my fellow vaper! Protect what is important to you... and us!

oh, and again...
I'm not a paid spokesperson, just a concerned fellow vaper trying to rally support...
 
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ADD ( no "H" in my case) is the whole reason I started vaping. I quit smoking years before.

Nic does help, but it is sometimes hard to hit the sweet spot of how much to use. Too little is ineffective, too much introduces other problems. Try to be alert to how you feel and make adjustments as needed. That's a reason I keep different strengths of liquid around. I use anything from 6 to 18mg at different times of the day.
 

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I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 9 and have been on various medications for it ever since, if hyperactivity and nervousness are a problem for you (especially if it is due to stimulant medication), you should discuss that with your psychiatrist as there are alternatives available which may not cause those effects. Right now I am taking vyvanse and find that it is much more gentle than stimulant medication I had been on previously. During the day (while I am on my medication) I find myself using my pv much less than at night when the medication is no longer active. If I forget my vape at home and am about at night while I am not on medication I definitely notice myself being less calm and more fidgety (I bounce my legs), so perhaps you need a stronger juice?

Keep in mind that among the other toxins in cigarettes, there are MAOIs which inhibit the breakdown of several neurotransmitters involved in attention, primarily serotonin, norepinephrine, and dopamine. While it is true that nicotine itself is an effective agent in alleviating symtoms of ADHD, if you were a regular smoker and switched to e-cigs you are probably going to notice the absence of the MAOIs which are present in tobacco smoke but not e-cig smoke. Stimulant medication would be the most similar (mechanism of action wise) method that is commonly used that would correct for this deficit of monoamines, however as you stated you do not do well with such medication. Discuss with a psychiatrist the various options, as in recent years there have been several new non-stimulant medications released which are indicated for treatment of ADHD.

An interesting side note: There are several a7 nicotinic receptor agonists / positive allosteric modulators (the same mechanism of action of nicotine) under development/investigation for possible use in treatment of ADHD.
 

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Try upping the nicotine level when the hyper stuff hits. It works well for me, and I take an ADHD too, hope it will for you too. Also, reread what Place ofhate wrote about the MAOIs.

Oh man does this strike a nerve. My mother knew there was something wrong with me she just didn't know what it was. She begged the schools and doctors for help and they all brushed her off. I was hyper and my concentration is just about 90 seconds. I started smoking when I was 13, could have been 12, didn't mark it on my calendar. I didn't really care for it nor did I realize I was self-medicating with it. I clearly remember when I first heard about ADHD/ADD on the radio. We were at a stop light in Lake Tahoe. I was in my 30s and was floored. My husband looked at me like a stunned puppy. He figured it out immediately too. Turned out I had something like 39 of 40 symptoms of ADHD on one test. :cry:

I blamed myself every day for most of my life for my inability to be "normal." I can't tell you what a relief it was to finally understand what was wrong with me and that it wasn't my fault. I was NOT fond of the idea of taking drugs for it and didn't for another 10 years or so because I didn’t want to be “medicated.” Stuuupid.

I was prescribed Concerta and it was just luck of the draw that it worked phenomenally for me. A whole new world. I mean an entirely new world. My life would have been immensely different if someone had bothered to help me as a kid. Not to say I have haven’t had a good adventurous life but it would have been vastly different. And I most likely never would have smoked. When I think about my childhood, the very first thing that comes to mind is my father constantly telling me to, "sit still and quit fidgeting." Teachers said that a lot too.

Finding the right medication seems to be highly individualized. Get the wrong one and it really messes you up. Other than keeping me up at night, so I take it very early in the morning now, I don’t feel like I’m “on” something. It seems to be the “fillers” that have a negative effect on people. Take the same active ingredient by different manufacturers and it’s like sticking your head in blenders set at different speeds. We lost our insurance at one point and I tried a slew of different ones, none of which worked. It was beyond miserable. It is worth the time and effort to find the correct medication.

Begin rant--They are tightly controlled drugs which means college kids who are too lazy to study every day have them readily available when they need to cram for a test and those of us that need them to have a normal life, not to mention keep our attention focused when we are driving, sometimes find them in very short supply.--End rant.

I would not have been able to stop smoking without the ecig. I don’t think I’m weak-willed. I’ve gutted my way through a lot of other things. I tried everything else available to quit, all a miserable failure. Ecig took a while to convert to but now it’s been over seven months and wow, I still can’t believe it.

Sorry this was so long. :oops: I hope it helps.
 

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All of this helps. I kinda had the same thing happen. I was watching TV and saw something about adult ADHD and it was like a light went off. A few weeks later I was at a doctors office. Lol the adderal was good and worked but then I lost a job and insurance. I also lost a lot of friends being on medication. I was really hoping being on medication would help me quit smoking. Shame it did not. My now wife also has ADHD so it works for us. We are both noticing differences now that we have quit smoking. Time will tell and if I can't get it together I will have to seek help again.
 

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I had to quit the stinkies while off the medication because of another annoying health problem. What saved me was going up to 24mg from 18mg. Made ALL the difference in the world getting over that hump. Just get some that's a bit stronger for those difficult moments. Quite frankly, once over the hump, the 24mg was way too strong and I immediately went back down to 18 with no problem. I wasn't at all prepared for all the various withdrawal symptoms and, alas, didn't know about ECF at the time. There is a list of what happens when when you quit and I'm sorry I can't find it. Perhaps someone else can post the link? Kind of funny when I saw it. Oh, yeah, had that, and that, oh crap, I have that to look forward too?! 8-o Got where I looked forward to them so I could tic each on off as one less disgusting present BT had saddled me with.
 
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