Vaping and pets.

[Forkeh]

I know the liquid is highly toxic to pets if ingested, so I'm careful to keep it where my curious cats and hyper dog can't get it and am always sure to clean up well after filling and dripping. But how concerned should I be about vaping around them? Is that safe, or risky too?

 

[Ladypixel]

I vape around my hamster, who is much, much smaller than a cat or dog and is in an enclosed environment (her "cage" is two reptile tanks connected by hamster tubing, with the mesh reptile cage toppers -- otherwise she'd chew the bars and drive me nutty). So long as I don't have fresh juice residue on my hands when I reach in to pick her up, she's shown no adverse signs or problems with me doing this over the space of the last couple months. If I -do- have juice residue on my hands, she takes one sniff and retreats across the cage, I pull out my hand and sniff it, and I go wash my hands.

I've yet to hear anyone say that they've had problems with their pets getting too much vapor.

 

[Forkeh]

Thanks for reassuring me. I just wanted to be sure. I dearly love my pets and wouldn't want to be putting them at risk.

 

[bruiser]

My dog has no interest in my PV or the liquid. On the other hand, my cat showed some interest in the PV and liquids. I let her smell one of the liquids and she wrinkled her nose and closed her eyes. She wants nothing to do with it after that. Sometimes she'll watch the vapor, but that's the only interest she now has in vaping.

 

[Samyaza]

My cats think the vapor smells nice, I've even had one try and bat at the vapor as it was curling up and away!

The juices they are not interested in at all (and I keep them locked away when not in use).

My cats hated the smell of cigarette smoke and avoided me when I was smoking, but they will lie on me when I am vaping. Considering how the vapor is considered much less of a problem than second hand smoke, I think it is probably OK to vape around them.

 

[NJC]

We don't and we won't. We're extraordinarily happy to not be smoking, and we were both long-term, extremely heavy smokers, but if we had never been smokers, if given the choice in a home or social environment, we'd choose plain old normal...air.

As much as we also now enjoy vaping, if given an -easier- "choice", we wouldn't be vaping or spending money on vaping. We enjoy it, we love it, but in the same way we enjoyed cigarettes, even when it looked like we're were essentially trying to kill ourselves or run more slowly or trying to get a worse nights rest or waste money.

This goes with or without the fact that nobody really knows the long-term effects - teeth, mouth, lungs, throat, nose, anything.

Pets? They don't know the effects either, they don't get the choice to be around it or not and most of them never live long enough to be old enough to buy a pack of cigarettes or a PV and make their own bad decisions.

Step ten feet outside. If they don't need something or you aren't sure about something -- keep it away from them. Food, toys, vaping, the neighbor's cat with questionable intentions, anything.

We should all do the same, but we're highly intelligent creatures with the ability to make poor decisions, justify anything, and rack up credit card bills based on those poor decisions.

Justification is what kept us all smoking so long. Addiction is just the little demon on the should. Always only justify decisions that only impact yourself. Just our opinion...

 

[Forkeh]

Well it's not like I intentionally vape around them. But my cats are sneaky little monsters sometimes. It's not an issue of being inside or outside. My animals are indoor/outdoor. Sometimes they sneak up on me while I've vaping, which is often outside (some of my family members don't much like the smell). I was concerned because of that.

Who is "our" anyway? I was under the impression that one account represented one person.

 

[RamShot Rowdy]

If cigarette smoke ever got in my dogs face they would snort, sneeze, and often times move away from me. The vapor from my e-cig doesn't seem to bother them. They sniff the air sometimes if the vapor gets near them, and have even smelled my PV a few times. I've never had them sneeze, snort, or move because of e-cig vapor though. So I would assume it is much less offensive to them, and probably much safer also.

 

[sailorman]

I work at home, so I vape in my livingroom/office pretty much all day, within about 8' or so from a parrot.
If you know anything about birds, you know they have the most efficient respiratory system on earth.
It's why they used to use canaries in coal mines. They're extremely sensitive to airborne toxins and they suck them up like sponges.
After almost 2 years of vaping, I sprung for a more detailed than normal test on my parrot. Cost me a bloody fortune, too.
In addition to all the normal stuff, like heavy metals, etc., I requested the vet check for nicotine, carcinogens and whatever else usually shows up in birds when they were kept in a smoking environment. Avain vets are quite familiar with the effects of tobacco smoke on birds. It's one of the biggest no-no's of bird keeping.

I'm happy to report that there was no detectable nicotine or any of the other components of tobacco in the bird.
Since other domestic pets are not nearly so susceptible, I would not worry about vaping in the presence of dogs, cats, hamsters, etc. Obviously, exposure to e-juice is an entirely different matter and I have to be careful since my parrot is fond of small shiny things, like stainless cartomizers and colorful drip tips, even trying to pluck them out of my mouth if it gets a chance.

 

[mekks]

One of my 3 cats used to try and smack a real cig out of my hand or my hubbys hand (she hated it, she'd get a mad look when she did it), she hasn't attempted that yet with a pv ...lol. Although you do see her nose go up in the air to sniff the vapor depending which flavor it is, she usually comes closer to investigate.

 

[bruiser]

Now that's funny about the cat trying to smack a cig. I can see a cat doing that, as my cat smacks the door when I close it, and she's looking out. She'll smack the door four or five times and get her back all up. But, she won't go out.

 

[KumariHPX]

I have to add here because this just happened tonight...

I have one cat who is seriously attached to me, as in physically, at any chance she gets. She sleeps with her .... touching me, she will lay her arm over her other one to touch me, etc. and that's all only if she isn't in my lap which she prefers to be any chance she can.

I was vaping and reading this forum and when the vapor went in her face she pulled her head away from it. I couldn't tell if it was because it was a vapor and seemed solid (like she was afraid of being touched by the cloud), or the air from my exhale, or what.

Well, I do love my pets dearly, too, and I am after all a scientist as well. So, I exhaled a few more times in her direction (she wouldn't move off my desk anyway, even when I let her smell the PV and she wrinkled her nose). She seemed to dislike the vapor's smell and thickness. she squinted her eyes, gulped several times and her stomach twitched, like it felt bad in her stomach.

I don't know.. watching her react like that to what I've always heard called a harmless, odorless vapor (like water vapor!) made me rethink some things. What are we inhaling here in my apartment? What's going into my lungs that I'm purposely putting in them? Hmmmmmm....

 

[chad]

But how concerned should I be about vaping around them? Is that safe, or risky too?

It's considerably less risky than smoking around them. I also believe that popular opinion suggests there is not really any active nicotine in exhaled vapor and that the vapor itself is pretty inert. Your pets might not like the flavoring smell but I'd bet that it isn't harmful to them at all.

What's going into my lungs that I'm purposely putting in them?

Significantly less chemicals and additives than what's in cigarette smoke.

 

[Phangtonpower]

Good to know. We have an African Grey. I still try and not vape around him especially because he is a very expensive friend, but it's good to know there is no harm to them

I work at home, so I vape in my livingroom/office pretty much all day, within about 8' or so from a parrot.
If you know anything about birds, you know they have the most efficient respiratory system on earth.
It's why they used to use canaries in coal mines. They're extremely sensitive to airborne toxins and they suck them up like sponges.
After almost 2 years of vaping, I sprung for a more detailed than normal test on my parrot. Cost me a bloody fortune, too.
In addition to all the normal stuff, like heavy metals, etc., I requested the vet check for nicotine, carcinogens and whatever else usually shows up in birds when they were kept in a smoking environment. Avain vets are quite familiar with the effects of tobacco smoke on birds. It's one of the biggest no-no's of bird keeping.

I'm happy to report that there was no detectable nicotine or any of the other components of tobacco in the bird.
Since other domestic pets are not nearly so susceptible, I would not worry about vaping in the presence of dogs, cats, hamsters, etc. Obviously, exposure to e-juice is an entirely different matter and I have to be careful since my parrot is fond of small shiny things, like stainless cartomizers and colorful drip tips, even trying to pluck them out of my mouth if it gets a chance.

 

[Rar]

If cigarette smoke ever got in my dogs face they would snort, sneeze, and often times move away from me. The vapor from my e-cig doesn't seem to bother them. They sniff the air sometimes if the vapor gets near them, and have even smelled my PV a few times. I've never had them sneeze, snort, or move because of e-cig vapor though. So I would assume it is much less offensive to them, and probably much safer also.

These are my pets exactly. My pets used to always move when I lit a cigarette. In fact, if the cat were on my lap, he would jump off when I lit my lighter. Now, with vaping, they are totally unphased..............