Vaping around pregnant woman and kids

[MsShona]

I would respect a pregnant woman's wishes. I've been pregnant 5 times (all miscarried....but nothing at all to do with smoking). My longest pregnancy lasted up until 20 weeks. I smoked, but as soon as I saw the positive pregnancy test, I would work on quitting. Usually by my 6-8 week appointment, I was done. My BF actually suggested I take up vaping instead of quitting cold turkey, but each time, I was able to quit ok.

My BF never stopped smoking around me. Although I think if I would have made it further along (3rd trimester), he may have made an effort (even at 20 weeks, I never looked pregnant). Also I grew up in a house where my Grandfather smoked (my mother never smoked though, she has respiratory allergies).

Our neighbor is pregnant, and I'm not sure if she still smokes full time, or if she's just always broke; but she bums cigarettes off my BF like every other day! I kinda chide him for giving a pregnant woman cigarettes...but hey, it's her choice. If she didn't get them from him, she would get them from somewhere else.

 

[AndriaD]

There are places where you can vape where you can't smoke - many English pubs, for example. Perhaps a rethink is in order on the Golden Rule?

Also, my house, my mom's house, my aunt's house, and bathroom stalls wherever... That particular "golden rule' would remove 50%-100% of my reason for vaping!

Andria

 

[VNeil]

Golden rule- don't Vape where you can't smoke.

Why don't we all just join ANTZ and proudly display our membership cards?

 

[AndriaD]

Why don't we all just join ANTZ and proudly display our membership cards?

Or we could wear signs that say "Kick Me, I'm brainwashed."

Andria

 

[Alien Traveler]

Golden rule- don't Vape where you can't smoke.

Why don't we all just join ANTZ and proudly display our membership cards?

Because behavior rules keep changing.
It was customary for a caveman to defecate in front of a cavewoman (and vice versa); not anymore.
It was customary to blow clouds in the air; not anymore. Air now is included in a personal space.
Vaping in front of other people may be harmless to them (as defecating is), but it is impolite.

 

[VNeil]

A fine summarization of ANTZ extremism.

 

[DeAnn Chapman]

im with everyone else. until we have a longitudinal study as to the effects of second hand vape, I wouldn't risk it. It's a healthier choice - but being realistic - putting ANYTHING in yours (or someone elses body) will have some kind of affect (may that be negative or positive).

 

[AndriaD]

Yeah, mostly I feel like those who treat vaping like smoking really don't understand the vast difference between them, and I'm really tired of kowtowing to the terminally ignorant; I have rights too, and I'm really tired of them being abused and totally trampled just so the terminally ignorant can exercise theirs.

But, for a pregnant woman... as I said, if that child ends up having ANY problems, and you vaped around the child's mother while she was pregnant, you'd blame yourself, even if the vaping had nothing whatever to do with it. Pregnancy doesn't last long, so it's not really that big a deal to just vape away from her immediate area. Because the truth is, we really DON'T know if there could be a problem to the unborn or not. Some things that are totally fine to most people, could be a big problem for a fetus -- I ate my steak medium while pregnant, instead of medium-rare, for just that reason.

Andria

 

[Elidrin]

Why take a risk we don't know about, I'd say move to next room/outside take a hit or 2 and move on.

The real question is how does she feel about it?

 

[drunkenbatman]

1. Frankly, there's plenty of ignorance on the vaper side of the equation when it comes to this stuff. Pretending like we know everything is perfectly fine doesn't do us any favors, and makes us the other side of the knee-jerk coin.

2. If someone is put off by something, and you're intentionally confrontational about it, at that point it's about you and your own issues and you're using vaping as a tool to express them -- not the people who are wigged about it. This on a spectrum with lots of gray areas, but one of the surest ways you get "the masses" OK with bans and then more extreme measures is by being able to paint vapers as self-entitled a-holes wanting to blow vapor towards babies. If you're questioning this, I'd suggest some history on the prohibition of ........., obituates and of course alcohol (the first 2 are just racist, the second falls squarely into the women's temperance union believing men would be better people if it was outlawed).

Vapers are people, there's no reason why a vaper can't be an ......, and the best way to have it be accepted is not hide it, but show you're just a normal conscientious person. Everyone is ignorant about some things; if someone is ignorant about vaping, offer to educate them in a non-condescending way. However if they're uncomfortable, you pushing on it is just going to set things back and make it easier for vapers to get demonized when they tell others the story.

 

[coolercoiler]

whether its completely safe or not i refuse to vape around kids, I dont want them to grow up thinking that its normal . I am sure that a lot of us had parents that smoked when we were younger, and i believe that is a large contributer to me starting, whether consciously or subconsciously. I dont want them to ever start vaping because all the grownups around them did. I am sure all of us as vapers would agree that however small the risk is , not vaping is better than vaping.

 

[e-pipeman]

I've noticed that some people have reported their heart to beat a little harder if we're in a closed space and I'm vaping beside them. So to be on the safe side, I'd stay back..

Maybe you're alarming them somehow? There isn't enough nicotine in a vapour exhale to make an amoeba squirm.

 

[e-pipeman]

Because behavior rules keep changing.
It was customary for a caveman to defecate in front of a cavewoman (and vice versa); not anymore.
It was customary to blow clouds in the air; not anymore. Air now is included in a personal space.
Vaping in front of other people may be harmless to them (as defecating is), but it is impolite.

Your sense of courtesy is a little misplaced, I think. The "air" that you describe as personal space has already been polluted by diesel fumes, aircraft fuel and a "hundred" other things. How can air be personal space? We all use it, therefore it is shared.

 

[AndriaD]

whether its completely safe or not i refuse to vape around kids, I dont want them to grow up thinking that its normal . I am sure that a lot of us had parents that smoked when we were younger, and i believe that is a large contributer to me starting, whether consciously or subconsciously. I dont want them to ever start vaping because all the grownups around them did. I am sure all of us as vapers would agree that however small the risk is , not vaping is better than vaping.

Yeah, god forbid that kids get the idea that saving your own life is a good thing.

Andria

 

[somdcomputerguy]

Golden rule- don't Vape where you can't smoke.

When I smoked, I didn't smoke in a non-smokers house, or somewhere there was a 'no smoking' sign. More than once I walked into a building with the cigarette I had just extinguished outside still in my mouth though. Certainly not anywhere close to kids, and not around a pregnant woman. If I ever saw a pregnant woman smoking or drinking, she would get a piece of my mind! I follow the same rules now that I exclusively vape.

 

[StormE]

I'd just ask her what she thinks and feels about it. All in all its still not as horrid as tobacco. Maybe just a nic-free juice would be a better choice in same room vapeing?
Congrats on the little one im in the same boat we're due in Feb.

 

[StormE]

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[AndriaD]

If I ever saw a pregnant woman smoking or drinking, she would get a piece of my mind!

Speaking as one who smoked while pregnant, I'd have told you to mind your own beeswax, and I'm quite sure my husband would have told you the same. But probably more forcefully.

Andria

 

[volokov]

I usually don't vape around my kids, as I don't want them to pick up the same habit as me when they grow up. If they do catch me vaping, I tell them that "papa needs to take his medicine".

 

[meeshish]

My knee-jerk reaction is that it probably isn't harmful at all. My personal values around vaping is that it feels rude to me.

As for nicotine and harm, it should be noted that I didn't use any nicotine at all at any time when I was pregnant with my twins, and I lost them to prematurity anyway. Bad things happen. (A week after they died, I started smoking again. Bad, but better than drugs and hard drinking.)

Yes, my son sees me vape. He used to see me smoke. Which is worse?